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stealth affects bloked [message #455532] Wed, 21 September 2011 13:31 Go to next message
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thought I would give 4.0 a try and it seams it blocks my stealth affects that are the red flame ones ?

where can I get original stealth or one that is allowed .
Re: stealth affects bloked [message #455533 is a reply to message #455532] Wed, 21 September 2011 13:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hello Simon.

Goto C:\Westwood\Renegade\Data

and find the file that says: stealth_effect.dds

Delete that and you will use the stock renegade one (from the always.dat) Smile


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Re: stealth affects bloked [message #455535 is a reply to message #455532] Wed, 21 September 2011 13:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ok dude will give it a try Thumbs Up
Re: stealth affects bloked [message #455537 is a reply to message #455532] Wed, 21 September 2011 13:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Indeed, in 4.0 you're not allowed to cheat with easy to spot stealth effects. Rocked Over

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Re: stealth affects bloked [message #455541 is a reply to message #455537] Wed, 21 September 2011 14:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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danpaul88 wrote on Wed, 21 September 2011 22:48

Indeed, in 4.0 you're not allowed to cheat with easy to spot stealth effects. Rocked Over

You are allowed, if the serverowner thinks it's not a cheat and adds the file to the AC.


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Re: stealth affects bloked [message #455563 is a reply to message #455541] Wed, 21 September 2011 17:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Found this today; look at the blatant stealth advantage skins here lol! Must watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljUUr6-GSyg&NR=1


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Re: stealth affects bloked [message #455576 is a reply to message #455563] Wed, 21 September 2011 19:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Starbuzz wrote on Wed, 21 September 2011 20:26

Found this today; look at the blatant stealth advantage skins here lol! Must watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljUUr6-GSyg&NR=1

Blatant c4 skins too. not fair Wink

Also that hud should be standard with 4.0!


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Re: stealth affects bloked [message #455600 is a reply to message #455576] Thu, 22 September 2011 01:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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halo2pac wrote on Wed, 21 September 2011 19:12

Starbuzz wrote on Wed, 21 September 2011 20:26

Found this today; look at the blatant stealth advantage skins here lol! Must watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljUUr6-GSyg&NR=1

Blatant c4 skins too. not fair Wink

Also that hud should be standard with 4.0!


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So, he clearly wasn't running 4.0. Razz


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Re: stealth affects bloked [message #455617 is a reply to message #455563] Thu, 22 September 2011 05:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Starbuzz wrote on Thu, 22 September 2011 01:26

Found this today; look at the blatant stealth advantage skins here lol! Must watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljUUr6-GSyg&NR=1



so thats how he always shot my sbh wow mega dayglow green lol

yeah all sorted now had to lose my red stealth-spongebob c4and mines also bullet tracers


Re: stealth affects bloked [message #455636 is a reply to message #455617] Thu, 22 September 2011 08:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Should just use non-bright "skins". I play pretty well without stealth effect crud and I can still see SBHs if they get close enough just fine.

Just not as far as someone with that unrealistic colour.


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Re: stealth affects bloked [message #455664 is a reply to message #455600] Thu, 22 September 2011 15:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Azazel wrote on Thu, 22 September 2011 03:25

Uploaded by TheOldGot on 7 Jun 2010

So, he clearly wasn't running 4.0. Razz


no, clearly not, it's from june 7th of last year you fucking hemroid


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Re: stealth affects bloked [message #455797 is a reply to message #455563] Fri, 23 September 2011 19:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Starbuzz wrote on Wed, 21 September 2011 20:26

Found this today; look at the blatant stealth advantage skins here lol! Must watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljUUr6-GSyg&NR=1


Big surprise as to who is using those because he never pulls off crazy shit that pisses off everyone.... Sarcasm
Re: stealth affects bloked [message #458235 is a reply to message #455532] Fri, 21 October 2011 17:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have been using that Stealth effect made by Niss of UN that kind of adds a slight yellow tint. It's easier on the eyes, though I'd hardly say it was an "advantage" skin. I've never even seen a stealth skin that would be considered to have an advantage. When your stealthed, what's it matter what color your skin is? Unless the skin REVEALS a stealth object. That's the only way I would consider that to be an advantage. Once you de-cloak, your fair game. No matter color you are.

I would personally like to see these allowed. The good ones of course, but I won't lose sleep over if not. Sometimes it's nice to change the way a game looks. If there are "good" ones.



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Re: stealth affects bloked [message #458238 is a reply to message #458235] Fri, 21 October 2011 17:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i thought nls was good at sniping lol.
Re: stealth affects bloked [message #458239 is a reply to message #458238] Fri, 21 October 2011 18:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Shooting someone from point-blank range is hardly sniping.

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Re: stealth affects bloked [message #458259 is a reply to message #458235] Sat, 22 October 2011 04:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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trunkskgb wrote on Sat, 22 October 2011 02:26

I have been using that Stealth effect made by Niss of UN that kind of adds a slight yellow tint. It's easier on the eyes, though I'd hardly say it was an "advantage" skin. I've never even seen a stealth skin that would be considered to have an advantage. When your stealthed, what's it matter what color your skin is? Unless the skin REVEALS a stealth object. That's the only way I would consider that to be an advantage. Once you de-cloak, your fair game. No matter color you are.

I would personally like to see these allowed. The good ones of course, but I won't lose sleep over if not. Sometimes it's nice to change the way a game looks. If there are "good" ones.



Every skin can be allowed, but it's up to the serverowner, not us.


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Re: stealth affects bloked [message #458262 is a reply to message #455532] Sat, 22 October 2011 05:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That being said, a much better solution than kicking someone for "invalid file" would be to just force the use of the standard file in always.dat!

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Goztow wrote on Sat, 22 October 2011 05:45

That being said, a much better solution than kicking someone for "invalid file" would be to just force the use of the standard file in always.dat!


That would be much better I thought that's what tt was going to do might be a lot work idk.


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From what I understood, the most important problem with that as is that Renegade preloads assets and reuses them in different games. Simply changing the files that are loaded depending on the current game does therefore not work. I do think it would be better to make it work like you suggest somehow, but it's not as easy as it sounds. It also requires some additional communication between server and client to negotiate what files can be used. This is also not that easy to implement. I'll add it to the TODO list for further investigation though.

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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sat, 22 October 2011 07:56

trunkskgb wrote on Sat, 22 October 2011 02:26

I have been using that Stealth effect made by Niss of UN that kind of adds a slight yellow tint. It's easier on the eyes, though I'd hardly say it was an "advantage" skin. I've never even seen a stealth skin that would be considered to have an advantage. When your stealthed, what's it matter what color your skin is? Unless the skin REVEALS a stealth object. That's the only way I would consider that to be an advantage. Once you de-cloak, your fair game. No matter color you are.

I would personally like to see these allowed. The good ones of course, but I won't lose sleep over if not. Sometimes it's nice to change the way a game looks. If there are "good" ones.



Every skin can be allowed, but it's up to the serverowner, not us.


OK, thanks for the info EWD. I hope some servers allow the soft changes, that clear/blue color is just "old" in my opinion lol. Then again, so is this game. Very Happy


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StealthEye wrote on Sat, 22 October 2011 19:48

From what I understood, the most important problem with that as is that Renegade preloads assets and reuses them in different games. Simply changing the files that are loaded depending on the current game does therefore not work. I do think it would be better to make it work like you suggest somehow, but it's not as easy as it sounds. It also requires some additional communication between server and client to negotiate what files can be used. This is also not that easy to implement. I'll add it to the TODO list for further investigation though.

It would be very much worth it, I think. Thanks for checking.


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ehhh wrote on Fri, 21 October 2011 17:51

i thought nls was good at sniping lol.


Since when? Even whenever he was cheating, he still sucked.


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danpaul88 wrote on Wed, 21 September 2011 14:48

Indeed, in 4.0 you're not allowed to cheat with easy to spot stealth effects. Rocked Over

Or on the inverse, use saberhawk's better looking (but harder to spot) distortion one.


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trunkskgb wrote on Sat, 22 October 2011 01:26

I've never even seen a stealth skin that would be considered to have an advantage.



I made an sbh skin to test this ages ago. It would make them REALLY white and quite easier to spot at a glance if they are just narrowly passing you. It would also make it easier not to lose them if they get a bit of distance on you. So I dare say there can be an element of advantage in stealth skins.

But if a server is gonna block one and allow another then maybe its just better to have them ALL blocked that way there is still no claim of advantages..
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