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Re: New maps? [message #451701 is a reply to message #451415] Tue, 16 August 2011 07:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The way you act in public makes TT look like a bunch of douchebags. I don't think anyone's job requirement lists "Arguing point by point about how someone LIED TO EVERYONE!!1!11. Take it to a fucking PM and have some professionalism.
Re: New maps? [message #451703 is a reply to message #451701] Tue, 16 August 2011 08:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Tue, 16 August 2011 16:45

The way you act in public makes TT look like a bunch of douchebags. I don't think anyone's job requirement lists "Arguing point by point about how someone LIED TO EVERYONE!!1!11. Take it to a fucking PM and have some professionalism.

You, sir, are right. Spoony, have fun with your monologue and your own truth.


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Re: New maps? [message #451705 is a reply to message #451415] Tue, 16 August 2011 08:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: New maps? [message #451708 is a reply to message #451415] Tue, 16 August 2011 09:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: New maps? [message #451709 is a reply to message #451415] Tue, 16 August 2011 09:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EWD, Spoony is right, you owe him an apology. It wasn't appropriate to say what was said. It would of been more acceptable to approach Spoony first and get his consent (if he would of been willing). If I am honest though, the whole concept seems silly at best (although I do see it as a good thing to have an open line of communication with 0x90, the way to do that isn't to act gun-Ho and use an unwilling sacrificial lamb).

You often call things out how you see them, regardless of who you're referring to or upsetting. I cannot condem you for that, so please do not condem me for the same. Razz



Re: New maps? [message #451715 is a reply to message #451709] Tue, 16 August 2011 10:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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reborn wrote on Tue, 16 August 2011 18:32

EWD, Spoony is right, you owe him an apology. It wasn't appropriate to say what was said. It would of been more acceptable to approach Spoony first and get his consent (if he would of been willing). If I am honest though, the whole concept seems silly at best (although I do see it as a good thing to have an open line of communication with 0x90, the way to do that isn't to act gun-Ho and use an unwilling sacrificial lamb).

You often call things out how you see them, regardless of who you're referring to or upsetting. I cannot condem you for that, so please do not condem me for the same. Razz

Maybe I should ask Spoony permission to take a shit as well... Since when is Spoony the one to ask for talking to 0x90? Last time I checked he didn't own Ren, TT, RGH, 0x90 or me...

It was after he started attacking me because of chatting to 0x90 (which Crimson has done long before me, which had as result that *cheat name removed*stopped hooking into Renguard it self, although the intention of that was that it would be possible to use RG to always detect RGH) that I said that I respect 0x90 more. This for the very simple reason that I'm already being backstabbed by Spoony, which up until now has not yet happened with 0x90. Guess who I like more?

Spoony isn't doing anything to not backstab me, so I have no reason to change my views, something that's necessary for a sincere apology. Just saying sorry (regardless of Spoony accepting it) doesn't change a single bit about that.


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Re: New maps? [message #451716 is a reply to message #451415] Tue, 16 August 2011 10:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This is the silliest, saddest thread I've read here in some time.

And people wonder why nobody has a hope for Renegade, and believe the 'community heads' are idiots. TT = Tools n' Twits.


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Re: New maps? [message #451721 is a reply to message #451415] Tue, 16 August 2011 10:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But someone says someone else is a LIAR WHO LIES TO EVERYONE! AND DESERVES AN APOLOGY FOR IT! With bold and underlined text, no less! It's important! Don't make fun of them!
Re: New maps? [message #451725 is a reply to message #451715] Tue, 16 August 2011 10:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Tue, 16 August 2011 10:29

It was after he started attacking me because of chatting to 0x90 (which Crimson has done long before me, which had as result that *cheat name removed*stopped hooking into Renguard it self, although the intention of that was that it would be possible to use RG to always detect RGH) that I said that I respect 0x90 more. This for the very simple reason that I'm already being backstabbed by Spoony, which up until now has not yet happened with 0x90. Guess who I like more?

god, you're such a fucking liar it's unbelievable. i never backstabbed you, you lying little bitch; you're the one who publicly attacked me (by means of a lie; you told everyone i was to blame for the TT patch being delayed... you lied about something extremely important that a lot of renegade people are justifiably annoyed about) and the reason you did it was because you were angry at the fact i was being mean to your trusted and respected friend 0x90.

answer the question, why did you lie to the community by saying i was to blame for the TT patch being delayed? why did you think it was a good idea to deceive the community and attack a TT colleague?

and i'm glad you're confirming what i said a few posts ago about what it takes to earn EWD's respect. work hard to do something important and constructive for renegade? nothing. honesty? nothing. integrity? nothing. but 0x90 has your respect when he's done more harm to the game than anyone else. so you tell us all you respect him more than me, which frankly displays a level of judgement that borders on dementia; a few weeks after that, he goes and releases more of his shit just like i told you he would, and even then you don't change your opinion of either of us. god, what's wrong with you?

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Spoony isn't doing anything to not backstab me, so I have no reason to change my views, something that's necessary for a sincere apology.

an apology from you would not be sincere, i think we all know that. but that's just because -a- you're a pathologically compulsive liar, -b- you're too much of a fucking dipshit to think you've done anything wrong, and -c- you're too much of a wretched slug to take responsibility for your actions if you did


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Re: New maps? [message #451726 is a reply to message #451721] Tue, 16 August 2011 10:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Tue, 16 August 2011 10:38

But someone says someone else is a LIAR WHO LIES TO EVERYONE! AND DESERVES AN APOLOGY FOR IT! With bold and underlined text, no less! It's important! Don't make fun of them!

the TT patch has been delayed for years. the renegade community has kept hearing that it's just around the corner. people have been understandably impatient and angry at the delays.

EWD tells everyone that spoony is responsible for the delays, apparently in revenge at the fact i'm being mean to his friend 0x90. this is a direct lie and he knew it was a lie when he said it. given the importance of what he said and how a lot of people are justifiably angry at it, isn't it valid to point out that EWD is a colossal prick for saying this, and ask him why did he try it? isn't "why did you think this was a good thing to say" a fair question?


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Re: New maps? [message #451727 is a reply to message #451415] Tue, 16 August 2011 11:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You know what? If you hadn't kept bringing it up constantly, I wouldn't have ever known that you were the reason for the delay. EWD has not made it as big of a deal as you have. I really doubt anyone in-game right now knows or cares about the Spoony-delay besides you. Well, and the little bit of caring I'm showing by trying to get you to realize that you're creating a self-fulfilling prophecy. The more you whine about EWD, the more people will notice it.

I think you're wasting your time, unless you enjoy looking like a huge douchebag for repeating yourself ad nauseum regarding a "delay" that nobody but you has brought up recently.
Re: New maps? [message #451728 is a reply to message #451727] Tue, 16 August 2011 11:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You didn't answer the question. Isn't it a fair question to ask why the guy who "does PR for TT" has a track record of flat-out lying to the renegade community about why the patch delays are happening just to amuse 0x90? Is this a good situation to be in, should we leave it as it is, or rather should someone say "what the fuck, EWD? Maybe don't lie to the renegade community like that, and maybe don't publicly attack your TT colleagues by means of a lie just to put a smile on 0x90's face... and while we're on the subject, what the hell were you thinking when you said you respected 0x90 more than spoony because 0x90's cheats killed the clan ladder spoony was running?"

are these not worthwhile questions?


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Re: New maps? [message #451729 is a reply to message #451725] Tue, 16 August 2011 11:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spoony wrote on Tue, 16 August 2011 19:51

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Tue, 16 August 2011 10:29

It was after he started attacking me because of chatting to 0x90 (which Crimson has done long before me, which had as result that *cheat name removed*stopped hooking into Renguard it self, although the intention of that was that it would be possible to use RG to always detect RGH) that I said that I respect 0x90 more. This for the very simple reason that I'm already being backstabbed by Spoony, which up until now has not yet happened with 0x90. Guess who I like more?

god, you're such a fucking liar it's unbelievable. i never backstabbed you, you lying little bitch; you're the one who publicly attacked me (by means of a lie; you told everyone i was to blame for the TT patch being delayed... you lied about something extremely important that a lot of renegade people are justifiably annoyed about) and the reason you did it was because you were angry at the fact i was being mean to your trusted and respected friend 0x90.

answer the question, why did you lie to the community by saying i was to blame for the TT patch being delayed? why did you think it was a good idea to deceive the community and attack a TT colleague?

and i'm glad you're confirming what i said a few posts ago about what it takes to earn EWD's respect. work hard to do something important and constructive for renegade? nothing. honesty? nothing. integrity? nothing. but 0x90 has your respect when he's done more harm to the game than anyone else. so you tell us all you respect him more than me, which frankly displays a level of judgement that borders on dementia; a few weeks after that, he goes and releases more of his shit just like i told you he would, and even then you don't change your opinion of either of us. god, what's wrong with you?

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Spoony isn't doing anything to not backstab me, so I have no reason to change my views, something that's necessary for a sincere apology.

an apology from you would not be sincere, i think we all know that. but that's just because -a- you're a pathologically compulsive liar, -b- you're too much of a fucking dipshit to think you've done anything wrong, and -c- you're too much of a wretched slug to take responsibility for your actions if you did

You're the one that has to resort to insults and statements which you do not want to prove. I've asked you doesn't of times to show me and the rest of the public where I am lying. Until I've seen the parts where I apparently made mistakes, I do not believe you, and your insults do not help with obtaining that insight.


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Re: New maps? [message #451730 is a reply to message #451728] Tue, 16 August 2011 11:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spoony wrote on Tue, 16 August 2011 20:19

You didn't answer the question. Isn't it a fair question to ask why the guy who "does PR for TT" has a track record of flat-out lying to the renegade community about why the patch delays are happening just to amuse 0x90? Is this a good situation to be in, should we leave it as it is, or rather should someone say "what the fuck, EWD? Maybe don't lie to the renegade community like that, and maybe don't publicly attack your TT colleagues by means of a lie just to put a smile on 0x90's face... and while we're on the subject, what the hell were you thinking when you said you respected 0x90 more than spoony because 0x90's cheats killed the clan ladder spoony was running?"

are these not worthwhile questions?

Fun-fact: I still have no clue what he's talking about...

Spoony, I have no idea if my reactions cause a smile to 0x90's face, but I'm sure yours sure do.


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Re: New maps? [message #451731 is a reply to message #451415] Tue, 16 August 2011 11:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just lost all faith in TT, good going fellas.
Re: New maps? [message #451732 is a reply to message #451730] Tue, 16 August 2011 11:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Tue, 16 August 2011 11:21

Spoony, I have no idea if my reactions cause a smile to 0x90's face, but I'm sure yours sure do.

right. so when you said in the TT private forum that the reason you were lying in public to attack me was to make 0x90 feel better (an alarming thing to admit), you were lying then too?


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Re: New maps? [message #451734 is a reply to message #451732] Tue, 16 August 2011 11:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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StealthEye wrote on Mon, 24 May 2010 11:39

I am not lying, I am reading your posts, and I still don't see what EWD has done wrong. Let it be clear that EWD nor me have ever justified any cheat-related actions of 0x90. You have never stated what the problem is that you are talking about, you you only name it "obvious" and "red-handed" but probably noone bar you knows what you are talking about. You may want to post a short post with your opinion rather than a one- or two-line answer to every sentence I type, because the latter doesn't result in a coherent post, and it clearly fails to get your message across.

Until you posted clearly what you think EWD has done wrong at all, without using words like 'obvious' and 'unbelievable' which mean nothing, there seems to be no reason to continue this conversation. I therefore assume this is my last post about this topic. Have a nice day.

Spoony, may I remind you that this was in 2010? Over a year ago, and still you haven't been able to answer this...

To clarify, I just went through the TT dev forums, the TT public forums and skimmed over the Heated discussions and debates, and cannot find anything that even resembles what Spoony is claiming. Now it could be that I'm blind, or just that it was never posted.


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Re: New maps? [message #451742 is a reply to message #451415] Tue, 16 August 2011 12:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wait... people are still working on that TT thing?

Do people even still play Renegade? I thought everyone moved to one of the mods... :\

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Re: New maps? [message #451745 is a reply to message #451742] Tue, 16 August 2011 12:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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R315r4z0r wrote on Tue, 16 August 2011 21:28

Wait... people are still working on that TT thing?

Do people even still play Renegade? I thought everyone moved to one of the mods... :\


I think there are on average 5 to 10 commits every day for the past couple of months, so yes TT is being worked on. The private beta allows the team to find and fix a lot of bugs.

Edit: Bugs vary from bugs that were in stock ren as well as new bugs.


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Let's cut it out folks. Whether or not someone lied about internal matters, words are words and not worth holding grudges over. What speaks louder is the amount of work both of you have done for Renegade over the years. You are on the same side - here to keep C&C Renegade alive and to keep cheats away from it. Just end the arguing, because it isn't making anyone look better. Shake on it, and move on.

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