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| Re: nothing but shift [message #451294 is a reply to message #451293] |
Thu, 11 August 2011 21:38   |
iRANian
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Yo Its Loki, and i'm gonna have to say you just got pooped on, from experience I can tell you he would of had you dead before you hit middle of hall if he was using aimbot. and if he's cheating just go get *cheat name removed*and combat it.
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| Re: nothing but shift [message #451305 is a reply to message #451291] |
Thu, 11 August 2011 22:39 |
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Ya but anyone who cheats should know its too noticeable and stupid to aim the entire time, U have to make mistakes and shit like a normal shot
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| Re: nothing but shift [message #451306 is a reply to message #451305] |
Thu, 11 August 2011 22:42 |
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| (SSnipe) -BLU3Y3Z- wrote on Thu, 11 August 2011 22:39 |
Ya but anyone who cheats should know its too noticeable and stupid to aim the entire time, U have to make mistakes and shit like a normal shot
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yeah, which is what he does a little bit. The thing with *cheat name removed*aimbot is that it noticeably make you hit people when on their screen the shots are wide off, like in my video, given that the guy has a weapon like the shooters or Laser Rifle.
Here's another one of a guy using *cheat name removed*aimbot to target my body on me with a Laser Rifle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NryKH96P8Y
here's one with a gdi shooter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtzdO4Qk7GY
another funny one was guy with the nick WNxDespicable using triggerbot on me while hugging in volcano tunnels ref side, he would get out for a sec and do one headshot with a pistol, like three times in a row. Then he went pp tunnel and blatantly pistoled me there too the whole time. Sad thing is that i still had 30 kills up on him when it was both teams having free infantry and him blatantly cheating. :/
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| Re: nothing but shift [message #451327 is a reply to message #451323] |
Fri, 12 August 2011 03:15 |
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| Hitman wrote on Fri, 12 August 2011 03:12 |
nooby cheaters, my sbh is atleast as lethal as that cheating nerb
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last time you had a gunner and iwas on, people on my team were complaining they didn't see the rockets your gunner were firing lol
@Tunaman: both of them are using *cheat name removed*aimbot, the first vid the guy is targeting the head, in the second one the guy was targeting the body, you can see it from the damage they're doing and how all the shots are wide off and how they're spraying everywhere. the guy in the second vid was caught an hour later damaging and destroying an arty while he was reloading with an apc.
The blackmagecat one shows the spraying better, he was doing the aimbotting while he was at gdi bar front shooting inside gdi short, it's pretty funny to watch how far the shots are off from that distance. Then he joined Jelly's AOW server and he started doing it with a pistol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDsmLOBPywk&feature=related
here's an *cheat name removed*aimbot shot from a distance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhXGmcnktBA
Here's another one in the GDI short tunnel, this shit happens a lot on jelly mara (but not as blatantly), where randoms will suddenly take you down 70-100 hp when they're in a group of a atleast 3 guys at the start of the map :/ :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuUOcaebEqk
i have around 60 of these vids, kinda sad that everyone on renegade cheats these days 
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| Re: nothing but shift [message #451335 is a reply to message #451291] |
Fri, 12 August 2011 05:34 |
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aimbot doesn't have anything to do with shots hitting you when it looks like they shouldn't. the only thing that would make a big difference is if they were using modified models. because of the way rens system works, most of your videos actually look legit.
im not sure if you're trolling or what, but killing people while it looks like you're reloading is a bug that people have known about forever. when you manually reload your gun, ren doesn't send a reload message to the server, so noone else sees you reload. the other clients then think that the player shooting at them has 50 bullets in their clip for example because they didn't get the reload, while in actuality he has 100. when he's fired 50 bullets, the other clients will make it look as if he's reloading, while he really has 50 more bullets he can spend before he has to reload.
Was someone messing with you and told you that thing about people shooting "wildly" and missing on your screen but still hitting you means they're using RGH? did you just come to that conclusion yourself?
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| Re: nothing but shift [message #451338 is a reply to message #451291] |
Fri, 12 August 2011 05:54 |
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Are you trolling or do you just have no clue what you're talking about? It's kinda weird that two of those guys got caught after I fraps'd those videos of them blatantly using an aimbot on me. Is your game modified so you can shoot and damage vehicles with an APC through the WHOLE reloading animation (which is why Jelly mods banned that Hotbeetle guy)? That would be kinda weird. 
Here's me shooting someone while reloading on my test FDS, is that what happens with your game? That would be quite weird to say the least:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kioaN1w9Q7g
All the servers I know of ban people for cheating online btw, dude.
That WNxDespicable got caught using a triggerbot by 1337-Snipes bot. And that crisis guy got caught on Jelly iirc after being so blatant.
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| Re: nothing but shift [message #451343 is a reply to message #451338] |
Fri, 12 August 2011 07:03 |
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| iRANian wrote on Fri, 12 August 2011 14:54 |
Are you trolling or do you just have no clue what you're talking about? It's kinda weird that two of those guys got caught after I fraps'd those videos of them blatantly using an aimbot on me. Is your game modified so you can shoot and damage vehicles with an APC through the WHOLE reloading animation (which is why Jelly mods banned that Hotbeetle guy)? That would be kinda weird.
Here's me shooting someone while reloading on my test FDS, is that what happens with your game? That would be quite weird to say the least:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kioaN1w9Q7g
All the servers I know of ban people for cheating online btw, dude.
That WNxDespicable got caught using a triggerbot by 1337-Snipes bot. And that crisis guy got caught on Jelly iirc after being so blatant.
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Tunaman is right.
Renegade netcode is so gay that you cannot trust the reload animation, not as the shooter, not as the server and not as the victim of the shooter.
For actually hitting it's pretty much the same thing, the server shows the victim were the server thinks the player is shooting. However, to reduce lag and make it possible to actually hit something, the shooter points at something and says "I hit object x, and I hit it in the head/neck/body." because of this, pretty much no information can be gained from video's, except for reaction speed and how well someone is able to do headshots.
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| Re: nothing but shift [message #451344 is a reply to message #451343] |
Fri, 12 August 2011 07:15 |
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| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Fri, 12 August 2011 07:03 |
| iRANian wrote on Fri, 12 August 2011 14:54 |
Are you trolling or do you just have no clue what you're talking about? It's kinda weird that two of those guys got caught after I fraps'd those videos of them blatantly using an aimbot on me. Is your game modified so you can shoot and damage vehicles with an APC through the WHOLE reloading animation (which is why Jelly mods banned that Hotbeetle guy)? That would be kinda weird.
Here's me shooting someone while reloading on my test FDS, is that what happens with your game? That would be quite weird to say the least:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kioaN1w9Q7g
All the servers I know of ban people for cheating online btw, dude.
That WNxDespicable got caught using a triggerbot by 1337-Snipes bot. And that crisis guy got caught on Jelly iirc after being so blatant.
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Tunaman is right.
Renegade netcode is so gay that you cannot trust the reload animation, not as the shooter, not as the server and not as the victim of the shooter.
For actually hitting it's pretty much the same thing, the server shows the victim were the server thinks the player is shooting. However, to reduce lag and make it possible to actually hit something, the shooter points at something and says "I hit object x, and I hit it in the head/neck/body." because of this, pretty much no information can be gained from video's, except for reaction speed and how well someone is able to do headshots.
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This doesn't happen to me when a legit SBH shoots me. The *cheat name removed*aimbot causes the ridiculous spray, I could make a video of me being shot by an SBH on the same server I made a video of this and it would look nothing like this at all. I've been shot by SBH around 100 000 times over a couple of years playing on USA servers and its never like this unless they get caught cheating by mods afterwards (like with all the guys I linked videos of, except for alfthedes). If you want me to show you how it looks like when a legit SBH is shooting me I can record it if you like, but anyone playing on USA servers know it the SBH rifle isn't off this much and I'm not getting randomly head shot 3 times very fast like this when a person isn't even trying to hit me.
i0n said both SBH videos look pretty bad.
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| Re: nothing but shift [message #451347 is a reply to message #451344] |
Fri, 12 August 2011 08:21 |
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some of the videos are rgh. Others are not proof enough to justifiably say they use rgh. Just sayin..
If you really want, i could go in specifics on which videos
I'll also show you how easy it is to legitimately kill you that fast with a laser rifle when you're an engineer jumping around like that
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| Re: nothing but shift [message #451358 is a reply to message #451344] |
Fri, 12 August 2011 10:45 |
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| iRANian wrote on Fri, 12 August 2011 16:15 |
| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Fri, 12 August 2011 07:03 |
| iRANian wrote on Fri, 12 August 2011 14:54 |
Are you trolling or do you just have no clue what you're talking about? It's kinda weird that two of those guys got caught after I fraps'd those videos of them blatantly using an aimbot on me. Is your game modified so you can shoot and damage vehicles with an APC through the WHOLE reloading animation (which is why Jelly mods banned that Hotbeetle guy)? That would be kinda weird.
Here's me shooting someone while reloading on my test FDS, is that what happens with your game? That would be quite weird to say the least:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kioaN1w9Q7g
All the servers I know of ban people for cheating online btw, dude.
That WNxDespicable got caught using a triggerbot by 1337-Snipes bot. And that crisis guy got caught on Jelly iirc after being so blatant.
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Tunaman is right.
Renegade netcode is so gay that you cannot trust the reload animation, not as the shooter, not as the server and not as the victim of the shooter.
For actually hitting it's pretty much the same thing, the server shows the victim were the server thinks the player is shooting. However, to reduce lag and make it possible to actually hit something, the shooter points at something and says "I hit object x, and I hit it in the head/neck/body." because of this, pretty much no information can be gained from video's, except for reaction speed and how well someone is able to do headshots.
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This doesn't happen to me when a legit SBH shoots me. The *cheat name removed*aimbot causes the ridiculous spray, I could make a video of me being shot by an SBH on the same server I made a video of this and it would look nothing like this at all. I've been shot by SBH around 100 000 times over a couple of years playing on USA servers and its never like this unless they get caught cheating by mods afterwards (like with all the guys I linked videos of, except for alfthedes). If you want me to show you how it looks like when a legit SBH is shooting me I can record it if you like, but anyone playing on USA servers know it the SBH rifle isn't off this much and I'm not getting randomly head shot 3 times very fast like this when a person isn't even trying to hit me.
i0n said both SBH videos look pretty bad.
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The *cheat name removed*aimbot causes the ridiculous spray,
I quit reading there. *cheat name removed*does not change ANYTHING to spray, not for better or worse. The only thing it does is force the center of the screen to face an enemy's head (neckbone technically, but whatever). Large amounts of spray are usually due to lag, just like I stated.
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| Re: nothing but shift [message #451366 is a reply to message #451364] |
Fri, 12 August 2011 11:44 |
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HaTe
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZmoFS9Z7zU&feature=player_embedded#at=20
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In my renecareer of playing professionally for 7 years (which includes multiple times being ranked #1 on the reneladder, like in july 2010) I've never seen such clear proof of snapping as what you did at 0:18-0:19 and especially at 0:22-0:23 when you need two different movements to turn your sakura, after walking in a straight line a few seconds before that (yet just snapping to that soldier). After you killed the second soldier at 0:18 your character "bugs out" for a split second and aims at the right of the guy you just killed and then it resets back to direction that you had before you snapped at him at 0:18.
The rest of the renemovie shows you shooting people hiding behind pillars and at 0:05 seemingly snapping at someone next to the weapons factory and then quickly snapping to an engi just entering the tunnel.
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oh, and i can easily kill you that fast with GDI soldier. The way you move makes it so easy to kill you fast. Not their fault.
The cris one is obviously cheats...you can tell that from the 1st video you put up of him.
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| Re: nothing but shift [message #451367 is a reply to message #451291] |
Fri, 12 August 2011 11:50 |
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If shaitan agrees to he can fraps me aimbotting him for across the the field on City_Flying with an sbh or gdi shooter on my FDS, if you still don't believe this, or I could ask some mods to reply here about it.
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| Re: nothing but shift [message #451372 is a reply to message #451367] |
Fri, 12 August 2011 12:31 |
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| iRANian wrote on Fri, 12 August 2011 20:50 |
If shaitan agrees to he can fraps me aimbotting him for across the the field on City_Flying with an sbh or gdi shooter on my FDS, if you still don't believe this, or I could ask some mods to reply here about it.
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You think Seye and me didn't test every bit of *cheat name removed*that's there to test? LOL.
No,go back to testing for TT, as that's something you are actually good at. *cheat name removed* doesn't do anything with the game except figuring out where enemies are and pointing the cursor at them. Ok, it gives some information about them as well, but that still comes nowhere near the things you describe, sorry.
Edt: let me see if 0x90 is willing to reply in this topic as well...
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