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| Re: Input needed please [message #445764 is a reply to message #445761] |
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| HaTe wrote on Wed, 13 April 2011 14:40 |
So it's a common occurrence for st0rm mods to cheat? How many have there been?
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several haha to many to count.
Also why go to so much trouble for one noob just don't play at storm problem solved.
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| Re: Input needed please [message #445770 is a reply to message #445674] |
Wed, 13 April 2011 21:32 |
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I am not going to sit here and lie and tell you that St0rm doesn't have its problems. But I can tell you this. You can't sit here and watch every single staff member and scan every single computer and check everyone out ever second. There will always be cheaters in all positions, Players, Moderators, and Admins. I also can't monitor my staff 24 / 7 but I can try to surround myself with people who know what they are doing. I am personally handling this as best I can in my free time and I am sifting though a lot of logs to check and see what I can do about this. People will always diss and smash other communities based on their own experiences there. I apologize to anyone who has had a bad experience at my community and I wish I could fix it for everyone but no community is perfect.
I will tell you this, No Staff member is safe from being banned. The reason it is so hard at St0rm to get banned is because we handle all cases as Innocent until proven guilty. That means we don't ban people unless we are 100% sure that they cheat. This may upset some people when they think they are 100% sure that the person is cheating but until we have all the evidence that this person is cheating we do not ban them.
When HaTe brought this case to my attention via IRC, I instantly suspended all of Mobile's powers ingame, irc, and on teamspeak. I was not aware of this situation until Hate personally came up to me and told me about it.
Out of a gesture of good faith to the Renegade community I asked that the entire investigation be done in public in front of everyone so that there would be no questions at the end.
All I ask now is that we stay on topic and handle this situation at hand. After this is over and we solve this, you can go back to insulting me, my community, and my staff, But please lets handle this first.
I also ask this, If anyone has a problem with me or my community they come to me directly and tell me and see if we can resolve this. Creating Renedrama on the Renegade Public Forums is not the answer, this isn't 10th grade high school drama bullshit. Be an adult and step up to the plate and have a mature conversation.
And for all you thinking Mobile is safe, I am 99% sure now thanks to HaTe's Evidence and also other St0rm Staff's Evidence that he is using ROF and some other cheats. I will be handling this and if he is found to be cheating he will be 100% banned from St0rm and all of its services.
Regards,
Wilo S.
St0rm Network Administrator
www.St0rm.net
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| Re: Input needed please [message #445771 is a reply to message #445674] |
Wed, 13 April 2011 21:49 |
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I have confirmed that he was using a ROF Hack via Gamelogs. He has been fully stripped of his power and removed. I thank Hate and anyone else who brought this to our attention. I will be installing anti ROF scripts on the server tomorrow.
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;10.000000;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;10.000000;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;200.000000;Havoc/Ramjet Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;105.000000;Havoc/Ramjet Rifle
[19:25:51] _SS Mobilest0rm killed [WaR]HaTe (killerpreset> VS Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle)
Regards,
Wilo S.
St0rm Network Administrator
www.St0rm.net
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| Re: Input needed please [message #445773 is a reply to message #445771] |
Wed, 13 April 2011 23:47 |
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[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;200.00000 0;Havoc/Ramjet Rifle
[19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;105.00000 0;Havoc/Ramjet Rifle
[19:25:51] _SS Mobilest0rm killed [WaR]HaTe (killerpreset> VS Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle)
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As far as I can see here, he shoots him twice and kills him within a second, unless the timestamps are wrong. However if I'm not mistaken, this is not quite possible with a ramjet because of the recoil time.
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| Re: Input needed please [message #445778 is a reply to message #445674] |
Thu, 14 April 2011 05:05 |
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hmm
Post the gamelog for that day/hour please. Would be nice to see that and match it up with the videos tbh.
| Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:38 |
I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
rejects I despise.
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| Re: Input needed please [message #445781 is a reply to message #445674] |
Thu, 14 April 2011 06:58 |
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Well lets see..gamelogs were the last thing to be used(when it should have been the first). I'd like to see the rest to see if each of his kills match what that one bit shows.
If I'm reading that right, there's no coordinates of each player's position.
<edit> uploading a vid to go with this logfile I'm putting in here, will link the vid when it's done(20 minutes left to upload that 458mb file, and forgive the sound...just noticed that after my OS reinstall from the other day) .
Read from [10:33:06] to [10:34:55]. That's rate of fire against a character.
From [10:35:10] to [10:35:16] is rate of fire against a harvester.
<Edit #2> screw the vids. 
| Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:38 |
I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
rejects I despise.
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| Re: Input needed please [message #445782 is a reply to message #445674] |
Thu, 14 April 2011 07:56 |
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I have submitted all the logs I am willing to submit at this time. I have more detailed logs with xyz cords but they are not needed. The reason it took me so long to get gamelogs is I work 60+ hours a week and don't have time for renedrama. I also had no one tell me what days or time these kills happened. The case is over, he was caught, he admited it too.
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| Re: Input needed please [message #445785 is a reply to message #445689] |
Thu, 14 April 2011 11:14 |
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| Spyder wrote on Tue, 12 April 2011 06:34 |
Apparently, you don't know me. I have contributed to the st0rm community in the past. There was no thank you or whatsoever, the only thing I got in return was a perma-ban until my ISP renewed my IP address.
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You must go by another name then as i have never seen or heared of you. I have been with st0rm since it started and have been a network admin for about 5 years, Not anymore.. I grown up now to realise online games aint the way forward in life.
I Am TeH OnE
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| Re: Input needed please [message #445789 is a reply to message #445781] |
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| shaitan wrote on Thu, 14 April 2011 09:58 |
Well lets see..gamelogs were the last thing to be used(when it should have been the first). I'd like to see the rest to see if each of his kills match what that one bit shows.
If I'm reading that right, there's no coordinates of each player's position.
<edit> uploading a vid to go with this logfile I'm putting in here, will link the vid when it's done(20 minutes left to upload that 458mb file, and forgive the sound...just noticed that after my OS reinstall from the other day) .
Read from [10:33:06] to [10:34:55]. That's rate of fire against a character.
From [10:35:10] to [10:35:16] is rate of fire against a harvester.
<Edit #2> screw the vids.
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Why shai, he admitted it.
| HaTe wrote on Thu, 14 April 2011 14:55 |
In my opinion, you are the only one there that can return st0rm back to it's state when moderators were of high quality.
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*cough* *cough* Nice bash! HaTe we have good mods and I include myself in that thank you. Just because one cheated doesn't mean the rest are bad or of low quality. Some have less experience than others. (Like the person you contacted.)  Had you contacted me like I asked you a few months ago if you had any problems, I would have escalated it to Wilo, Troy and Appl as your claim obviously had merit.
Bottom line this is done. It was one mod, nothing that reflects on our community as a whole and we can all get back to our lives eating cookies and having massive sex. ~cute smile here~
"Who cares what people think, it is what you know." "Feel the Love."
~Original Demo Player~
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| Re: Input needed please [message #445796 is a reply to message #445674] |
Thu, 14 April 2011 18:40 |
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Wyld..notice I said "screw the vids". Wilo was posting as I was editting. ;p
| Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:38 |
I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
rejects I despise.
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| Re: Input needed please [message #445799 is a reply to message #445674] |
Fri, 15 April 2011 00:06 |
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Some have less experience than others. (Like the person you contacted.)
What he said, I won't deny that. I did the best I could for those that came to me. But I am not in the position to decide about a staff member, especially not Mobilest0rm. I did what st0rm expected of me, and showed it to those in a high position. If they tell me there is no evidence, I could nothing do about it.
As I said before, I had no knowledge about a sound/tracer problem caused by RoF. I need to thank a lot of you, 'cause now I do.
Not all of the Moderators on st0rm are bad. There are enough who are ready to help you, no matter what the problem is. You'll just need to find them, and look through the ''past'' problems with old mods on st0rm that some of you had. I see that reaction a lot, but including me; there are a lot of new staff members added in the past few months.
Can i see the logs where he admitted to cheating?
As far as I know, are there no logs of it. He told some of us via PM's on Facebook. 
Anyway, see you guys ingame.
Regards
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