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well, i started off in the main gate and we fired a couple shots at each other without a hit, then i went up on the wall and killed you...
| i0ncl0ud9 wrote on Tue, 07 December 2010 20:05 |
and i killed spoony's sak, therefore i am the best.
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mmhmm.
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #441085 is a reply to message #441046] |
Tue, 07 December 2010 20:23 |
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| GoTWhisKéY wrote on Tue, 07 December 2010 14:49 |
I didn't know if I wanted to post again in here, but hey, its entertaining.
| Spoony wrote on Wed, 10 November 2010 13:28 |
dare i say... me? lol
other than that, mike's very good, and that yuri1990 (might be getting the numbers wrong) who plays at jelly
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lmfao
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there's nothing funny about that post. When I made the thread on Nov 10, clanwars was dead. All we had was pub games and any commwars that came up. In the spirit of most of this year, this thread was started to get an opinion on who the best ren player(s) was "NOWADAYS." I even made sure to use "player(s)" plural.
So Spoony's post is nothing to laugh at lol.
Who would have guessed that a bunch of thieving lying backstabbing gang of Brutuses and Barabasses from days past would come and write their name with their own shit in this thread? Why in the name of god would anyone mention kill and others who don't play? Your post about kill reaching out for his thick glasses and havoc mouspad cracked me up at work today lol.
Did you guys read the thread or did I had to put "NOWADAYS" in caps? Not to mention using a few lousy lobbywar games with questionable standards of testing a player's skill being used to trump over 1+ year of solid gameplay evidence that was Spoony's record? It's always easy to dismiss this as "raping pubs." wow. Could anyone of the lying thieving backstabbing Brutuses and Barabasses we have seen in this thread lead a team of unknown players to victory against well-established teams? And someone tell me how can anyone who says this is more skilled than Spoony?:
| Hitman wrote on Mon, 06 December 2010 15:28 |
strategy doesn't involve actual skill so not even gonna mention
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I am the one who is lmfao.
| GoTWhisKéY wrote on Tue, 07 December 2010 14:49 |
and funny claims like 'best mrl' and 'best light' lol. How do you have a 'best mrl' lol, that one always makes me giggle.
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woa wow? I truly cannot BELIEVE you don't know what he meant, Whiskey?...obviously the best light tank player in the game as well as the best mlr player in the game. Any game on Field with Spoony on GDI, you will know who the "best mlr" is if you were on Nod (most inf kills, most vehicle kills, and almost always the best contributing player pointswise towards the win with mlr). I don't see anything to "giggle" about tbh.
One game I clearly remember on City_Fly: I was with a Orca all game specifically hunting Spoony but he kept persisting with his light tank/sak. He was raping the PP/Barr over and over and singlehandedly won the game for Nod with pointslead when the rest couldn't have been bothered. I hope you know what a "best light" is now.
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #441086 is a reply to message #439171] |
Tue, 07 December 2010 20:31 |
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and u think i/whiskey cant do that with a light tank or an mrls? ;/ i have even killed entire bases on my own with an orca/apache which i am simply just not good with, never cared to be either, i was always the designated sniper in clanwars eitherway
and with the tactics not involving skill i meant tactics aren't an actual skill like being good with an apache or whatever, tactics are thought up in your head and isn't an ACTUAL piece of gameplay, if u know what im gettin at
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Tue, 07 December 2010 20:40 |
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| Hitman wrote on Tue, 07 December 2010 21:31 |
and u think i/whiskey cant do that with a light tank or an mrls? ;/ i have even killed entire bases on my own with an orca/apache which i am simply just not good with, never cared to be either, i was always the designated sniper in clanwars eitherway
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| Starbuzzz wrote on Tue, 07 December 2010 21:23 |
I even made sure to use "player(s)" plural.
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| Hitman wrote on Tue, 07 December 2010 21:31 |
and with the skill not involving tactics i meant tactics aren't an actual skill like being good with an apache or whatever, tactics are thought up in your head and isn't an ACTUAL piece of gameplay, if u know what im gettin at
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a med driver who can hs inf and kill vehs like a pr0 > than a med tank driver who can hs inf, kill vehs like a pr0 and lead other med tanks in a grand game of in-game strategy to give GDI the win?
wow mate. I disagree.
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #441088 is a reply to message #439171] |
Tue, 07 December 2010 20:43 |
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are you saying i cannot lead a team? just because i generally dont like to tell people what to do in the most common of games (public) doesn't mean that i can't do this, no matter what u or spoony says about this... im quite certain i have enough insight in this game to lead a team, but i just prefer not to, and if you dismess that as not qualified for it simply because i choose not to do so, then be my guest.
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #441089 is a reply to message #441010] |
Tue, 07 December 2010 20:46 |
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| Spoony wrote on Tue, 07 December 2010 10:19 |
| bmr_71 wrote on Mon, 06 December 2010 20:41 |
Well good for you spoony, you think you're right.
But GOD DAMN are you annoying.
Here's the key factor: nobody gives a shit.
Tell your friends and family how you argued for 17 pages about how right you are on this subject, and tell me what they say. If they say anything other than "you're a fucking loser, I don't give a shit" then I'll stfu. Promise!
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certainly nobody outside of renegade could be expected to give a shit, which is why this discussion is happening on - wait for it - a renegade forum, i.e. a place which exists for the sole purpose of talking about renegade. had you gone to your real life friends and family and told them how seriously you used to take this game (and how desperately you tried to pretend you didn't), they'd have been equally contemptuous.
as for people involved with renegade - if you haven't noticed at least two people have been absolutely infuriated by this thread. it's very hard to argue hitman "doesn't give a shit", look at him
btw here's the last thing i said to you, any comment on this?
Boomer: I argue on the internets (and I always win) because it makes me feel better about myself
Spoony: i'm not seeing what your problem is with someone being right about something. given that you don't seem to mind, for example, simpee continually lying over and over and over again rather than just conceding he's wrong about something, cos guess what, he's tried that in every single thread in which he's argued with me.
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Hitman and simpee are just as lame for continuing the charade, obviously. fwiw half of what they're doing is trolling you, and you're such a n00b that they keep getting to you.
Now, my friends and family do know what a renefaggot I used to be, but they also know that I was 15 at the time and didn't know any better. They expect more for a 20 year old university student, and they would certainly expect even more from you, seeing as you're like 5 years older than I am.
Now what do I think about you being right? I'll tell you: COOL STORY BRO.
What do I think about simpee being wrong? COOL STORY BRO.
I don't give a fuck, both of you should grow up. I know it doesn't affect me, I don't even read your posts. I'm just astounded by the fact that every time I look at this forum, the page count of this thread grows by 2. How can 2 (I'm assuming) logical and maybe even educated individuals drop to this level?
Just my 2 cents
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Tue, 07 December 2010 21:04 |
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| Hitman wrote on Tue, 07 December 2010 21:43 |
are you saying i cannot lead a team?
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I am saying a med tank driver who can hs inf, kill vehs like a pr0 and lead other med tanks in a grand game of in-game strategy to give GDI the win should be absolutely counted as the better tanker than the other a med driver who can only hs inf and kill vehs like a pr0.
That's all I am saying. I did not have anything at you on that pretty good example.
| Hitman wrote on Tue, 07 December 2010 21:43 |
just because i generally dont like to tell people what to do in the most common of games (public) doesn't mean that i can't do this, no matter what u or spoony says about this... im quite certain i have enough insight in this game to lead a team, but i just prefer not to, and if you dismess that as not qualified for it simply because i choose not to do so, then be my guest.
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that's not fair mate, don't you see?
With this kind of logic, ANYONE, can claim to be able to "lead over TS a bunch of attentive newbies" and WIN the game. And when asked to prove it, by this logic, they can get away with it by saying they just "know they can" or "they choose not to."
The logic goes against everything in humans. For example, a would-be president in a free country cannot get elected while sitting in his home and claiming that he can run the country. He has to go outside and put up with making speeches, participating in difficult question & answer sessions and what not to win the heart of the people and their vote.
I really like your optimism and I know you don't suck and you are good but it is mentally impossible to believe it till the deed has been done in broad daylight for everyone to see.
It is truly a case of convincing someone rather than not believing it because of some silly grudge. And I am definitely not like that kind of person.
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Tue, 07 December 2010 21:21 |
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u act like its so hard to lead a big team, u just got to create order and make sure people are willing to listen, i know enough about strategy and everything involved, i am 100% sure i could lead a team that is willing to listen and has SOME individual quality to victory against just about anyone, if you really gotta see it, then im just gonna say: set up a match and let me lead it for the first time in my renecareer, it really cannot be that hard.
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who the fuck doesnt know what to do in every single situation by now?
you've all played every map a thousand times over, literally. strategies have been the same for years, fuck off with your leadership argument.
Also I am the best leader here.
PROVE ME WRONG FAGGOTS
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #441109 is a reply to message #441107] |
Wed, 08 December 2010 05:23 |
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and u think i/whiskey cant do that with a light tank or an mrls? ;/ i have even killed entire bases on my own with an orca/apache which i am simply just not good with, never cared to be either, i was always the designated sniper in clanwars eitherway
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and yet my mrls and light tank are better than yours, you certainly don't get as many headshots with a light or shoot down as many orcas (both of which against decent opponents), or do as good a support job on field with the mrls.
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are you saying i cannot lead a team? just because i generally dont like to tell people what to do in the most common of games (public) doesn't mean that i can't do this, no matter what u or spoony says about this... im quite certain i have enough insight in this game to lead a team, but i just prefer not to, and if you dismess that as not qualified for it simply because i choose not to do so, then be my guest.
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isn't it true that a good player who knows the right strats would help the team a great deal if he DID choose to lead? wouldn't your team win a lot more games if you did? if the answer's no then you're not a good leader after all, and if the answer's yes then doesn't that logically mean that someone who could help the team a great deal but chooses not to isn't in any meaningful sense the best player?
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u act like its so hard to lead a big team, u just got to create order and make sure people are willing to listen, i know enough about strategy and everything involved, i am 100% sure i could lead a team that is willing to listen and has SOME individual quality to victory against just about anyone, if you really gotta see it, then im just gonna say: set up a match and let me lead it for the first time in my renecareer, it really cannot be that hard.
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hooray, you're actually going to do it instead of talking about it?
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Hitman and simpee are just as lame for continuing the charade, obviously.
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"just as lame"? equally, you mean? so someone who sticks to what he says because none of it's been shown to be wrong is "just as lame" as someone who's been proven wrong again and again and again AND been caught lying several times, and won't back down? if you really think that, it's good we know you think that
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fwiw half of what they're doing is trolling you, and you're such a n00b that they keep getting to you.
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i think you'll find hitman is reacting out of anger, and simpee's just his usual pathological compulsive liar with his usual undying hatred of someone who's never done him anything but favours.
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Now, my friends and family do know what a renefaggot I used to be, but they also know that I was 15 at the time and didn't know any better. They expect more for a 20 year old university student, and they would certainly expect even more from you, seeing as you're like 5 years older than I am.
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you haven't actually explained what your objection is here, the fact i'm sticking to the things i said because none of them have turned out to be wrong yet?
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Now what do I think about you being right? I'll tell you: COOL STORY BRO.
What do I think about simpee being wrong? COOL STORY BRO.
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that wasn't really my question. what do you think about the fact that every single time simpee's in an argument against me, he flat out lies through his teeth to try to win the debate, and gets caught every single time?
what do you think about the fact he obviously has such an enormous level of hatred towards me, when -a- i've never done ANYTHING wrong to him (that's right, nothing) and -b- i've actually done him nothing but favours?
by contrast, all i do is defend myself every time he attacks me, and catch him lying every time he tries, which is fantastically often.
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I don't give a fuck, both of you should grow up. I know it doesn't affect me, I don't even read your posts. I'm just astounded by the fact that every time I look at this forum, the page count of this thread grows by 2. How can 2 (I'm assuming) logical and maybe even educated individuals drop to this level?
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you still haven't explained what "level" i "dropped" to. earlier it seemed that it pissed you off that i was right, you seemed a pretty sore loser about that.
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who the fuck doesnt know what to do in every single situation by now?
you've all played every map a thousand times over, literally. strategies have been the same for years, fuck off with your leadership argument.
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same question i asked simpee: could you take a team of renforums players that had never even played community matches or clanwars before, and lead them to victory against experienced teams like jelly?
could you lead public-server players to the point where you win the overwhelming majority of games?
if no, then some people are better leaders than others; if yes, you're choosing not to help the team by not doing so, in which case you're plainly not the best player
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #441112 is a reply to message #439171] |
Wed, 08 December 2010 07:03 |
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I am saying a med tank driver who can hs inf, kill vehs like a pr0 and lead other med tanks in a grand game of in-game strategy to give GDI the win should be absolutely counted as the better tanker
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have you not played pointfix lately? the better med tank driver is clearly the one who shoots the buildings the most
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there's nothing funny about that post. When I made the thread on Nov 10, clanwars was dead. All we had was pub games and any commwars that came up. In the spirit of most of this year, this thread was started to get an opinion on who the best ren player(s) was "NOWADAYS." I even made sure to use "player(s)" plural.
So Spoony's post is nothing to laugh at lol.
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Yes, it is something to laugh at. It's fucking hilarious. To say Spoony is in the top 5 is even a stretch. Spoony was never a top 3 player, and still isn't. He was inactive throughout most of clanwar history. Just because he's played 500 public server games in the last couple months, and lead a few groups of noobs to victory against another group of noobs without a good leader, doesn't mean he magically became the best. See, Pubs actually make you rusty because you get used to raping retards instead of someone who can actually dodge a bullet. You then get a false sense of accomplishment and start believing that you're #1. Then some actually skilled players come along, and end up showing whats up.
Hitman is better then Spoony, there's no doubt about that. Hitman makes a bigger difference for his team in a lobby game then Spoony does. Hitman should be in the running for #1 right now. He might not of lead a community war, but he can still show up for a series and rape all. Spoony's best skills are his leadership abilities, but they're not good enough to make him #1 player in the game.
PS clanwars might not be dead if Spoony didn't ban the top competition over a personal beef. Spoony killed clanwars, then came over here and started talking about how we're all a bunch of cheating lying retards and he's the best now. He also said 'clanwars died because I quit playing' LOL!
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Who would have guessed that a bunch of thieving lying backstabbing gang of Brutuses and Barabasses from days past would come and write their name with their own shit in this thread? Why in the name of god would anyone mention kill and others who don't play? Your post about kill reaching out for his thick glasses and havoc mouspad cracked me up at work today lol.
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Kill does play, just not 25/8. He'll play when a competitive match comes up and I ask him, and when he does play, he rapes. I dont know about Simpee, but Hitman plays, and so do I. How come we're 'thieving lying backstabbing gang of Brutuses and Barabasses'? Or was that a joke lol, cuz it sounds funny
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Did you guys read the thread or did I had to put "NOWADAYS" in caps?
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We know its about nowadays, and Spoony still isn't #1. Remember this is peoples opinions. Its Spoony's opinion that he's #1, and we knew Spoony was arrogant before but this is a whole new level, even for him. When a public server raper claims they're #1, of course the real clanwar players are going to show up and argue that point (and in Hitmans case, own him a few games for good measure). Hitman even challenged Spoony to a true test of individual skill - a CLANWAR, but Spoony has no interest in that. He prefers comm wars - the last commwar that I lead Cw.CC vs RenForums, 6v6, we steam-rolled them with Spoony leading. Then when RGCT2 happened, the only reason RenForums beat Jelly was because Spoony pm'd Me and Kill to play for him (At the time I was probably more a member of the Jelly community, and Kill didn't even have a registered name here). Not very sportsmanlike Spoon, stacking your team to make sure you beat a group of noobs with no leader. You must of been proud. Even the Jelly players were upset about it and made that known.
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Not to mention using a few lousy lobbywar games with questionable standards of testing a player's skill being used to trump over 1+ year of solid gameplay evidence that was Spoony's record? It's always easy to dismiss this as "raping pubs." wow.
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1+ year of solid gameplay evidence? What evidence? He's a good leader and lead RenForums to victory, in a tournament that didn't even include clanwars? Congratulations on that, but that doesn't prove he's the best individual player in the game. A top leader, yes. Us actual clanwar players, have 6+ years solid evidence to go on. When things were truly competitive, Spoony wasn't active. Now that clanwars is dead thanks to him, he now believes its safe to claim king of the pub noobs, but sorry mate, it wasn't safe, and now clanwars is here to clean up this mess.
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Could anyone of the lying thieving backstabbing Brutuses and Barabasses we have seen in this thread lead a team of unknown players to victory against well-established teams?
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Yes we could, and have
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And someone tell me how can anyone who says this is more skilled than Spoony?:
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Spoony's a good leader, but thats about as far as it goes. His actual gameplay is top 10 no doubt, but #1 is what I'm arguing here.
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strategy doesn't involve actual skill so not even gonna mention
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I am the one who is lmfao.
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I'm gonna write that one off as the language barrier lol, because yeah, having good strategy is a skill.
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woa wow? I truly cannot BELIEVE you don't know what he meant, Whiskey?...obviously the best light tank player in the game as well as the best mlr player in the game.
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lmao I got that part, I just find it funny someone can claim to be over and above everyone else with a MRLS. MRLS are very easy to drive and handle, and once you know how to properly use one, thats about as far as it gets. Every higher level clanwar player is good in a MRLS. As for light tank, Spoony's been claiming that for years, but I haven't seen anything different about Spoony's light compared to any other high-level player. Remember I'm not saying Spoony isn't good with lights or MRLS, I'm just saying, he's not the #1 player in Renegade.
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Any game on Field with Spoony on GDI, you will know who the "best mlr" is if you were on Nod (most inf kills, most vehicle kills, and almost always the best contributing player pointswise towards the win with mlr). I don't see anything to "giggle" about tbh.
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I'm starting to giggle at you, pretending like you have all this Ren-experience when really you have no clue. I've played 10,000 clanwars buddy, I think I know my shit. MRLS are basically generic in a clanwar. The top level players all do the same thing with them. There's no way someone is a 'best MRL', its a joke.
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One game I clearly remember on City_Fly: I was with a Orca all game specifically hunting Spoony but he kept persisting with his light tank/sak. He was raping the PP/Barr over and over and singlehandedly won the game for Nod with pointslead when the rest couldn't have been bothered. I hope you know what a "best light" is now.
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That proves it! You're 100% absolutely right. Spoony, I now crown you best Light and best player, in Ren & Life. You won a map on a pub server all by yourself, awesome! You're a big boy now.
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a med driver who can hs inf and kill vehs like a pr0 > than a med tank driver who can hs inf, kill vehs like a pr0 and lead other med tanks in a grand game of in-game strategy to give GDI the win?
wow mate. I disagree.
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Any top level clanwar player can and does do that. We played organized games for 6 years, you think we can't lead a match? Come on now noob, you're making yourself look silly
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Lol well if ya can't see what's wrong with the need to defend yourself for 20 pages because some herpderp from the other side of the internet lies or thinks hes better than you, or whatever it is, then i can't help you.
for the rest of us, there's better shit to do. peace renedorks
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in all honesty spoony was quite a good player back in the day from what i remember (i was like 14 or 15) clanwars changed more than he realised when he stopped playing tho. its alot more about quick thinking and improvising based on what ur teammate has told u than it is leadership and everyone having their "roles".
a few things i remember from back then was that the snipers on city fly would ALWAYS go on the bridge in anything bigger than a 2v2, everyone on nod walls fly would ALWYAS buy a tank after first harv dump and try rush gdi (would never work thesedays) APC,s were rarely bought even though they are better than meds in alot of situations.
but yeah spoony didnt play when EF and h2o started raping shit. the game changed, u werent there, thats what hitman means when he says "ur basic" and thats why i get annoyed everytime we would have a pointfix debate and u say something stupid like "you dont understand the game as much as i do". brah, i understand it better than you.
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Wed, 08 December 2010 08:44 |
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u think i cant headshot/bodyshot infantry all the time? ;/how many times have i not killed buildings due to that in clanwars/pub games, so yeah i have been doing this continuisly for the last few years and i can say when im in the enemy base or even at a decent distance with a tank, there are very few characters that will live after my second or third shot has been fired at them(maybe abit more from further away), and thats not from splash.
anyways, spoony never came up with anything surprising that would throw the enemy of guard or simply surprise em, kill did that alot and look what he accomplished? he has been the best renplayer for years and not a single one in clanwars actually considered him as the best in any tank there is, only thing he was ever 'nominated' for was aow sniper as far as i can think, but he was still the best, just because u have a good mrls or light tank doesn't mean its actually gonna kill the opponent's med tank or in case of mrls: light tank, because that's what you'll be up against and u can claim best light all u want but you are not going to kill my med with your light lol
there are just a few points in your gameplay that i think are not quite as good as they should be will u claim the renenr #1 spot
and that is just my opinion, i've been with you in a clan and i honestly cant say i was ever actually surprised with the things u did/came up with, sure it was all quite solid but it didn't really go much beyond that IMO
about the mrls: i never really used it much, i recently actually just discovered u need to press the right mouse button for the missiles to lock, and i've been 6ML'ing people ever since, believe it or not.
ps: what good player would get his orca shot down by a light tank wtf?
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