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| Dover wrote on Mon, 01 November 2010 01:20 |
| CarrierII wrote on Sun, 31 October 2010 05:26 |
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| archerman wrote on Sun, 31 October 2010 02:32 |
if you ask me, doomsday could be near.
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Good thing nobody asked you (Or cares what the Turks think).
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Keep your racism, and ad hominem, to yourself. Verbal warning.
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Are we really going to pretend he isn't asking for it? Playing Dr. Phil and talking about abnormalities that cause instant death? And then doomsday is near?! Isn't there a max level of bullshit allowed in a single post?
As for racism, I can look past the Armenian genocide and the Batak massacre and all the other Turkish abuses, but archerman isn't exactly giving his people a good name. Notice how half his postcount disapeared after the spam fest wipe?
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Don't pretend the USA is much better, come on. You should be among the last of all people to complain.
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| Re: how many renegade players have died in real life? [message #440019 is a reply to message #438992] |
Wed, 24 November 2010 11:41 |
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| R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 07 November 2010 04:43 |
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how many renegade players have died in real life?
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| JohnDoe wrote on Thu, 28 October 2010 13:44 |
notice how good players dont die
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| Dover wrote on Sun, 31 October 2010 05:48 |
Good thing nobody asked you (Or cares what the Turks think).
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| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Thu, 28 October 2010 13:00 |
Hmm, judging by these posts, Renegade players are more likely to die by suicide than non-renegade players 
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Cause and effect, maybe?
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At the least one can find a good reason why so many Renegade players committed suicide. If I wouldn't be my positive self, I would've killed myself after visiting these forums for all these years. Although I must admit, the stupidity here does make me a bit sad, every time I visit.
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| Re: how many renegade players have died in real life? [message #440145 is a reply to message #440017] |
Sat, 27 November 2010 22:55 |
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| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Wed, 24 November 2010 10:36 |
| Dover wrote on Mon, 01 November 2010 01:20 |
| CarrierII wrote on Sun, 31 October 2010 05:26 |
| Dover wrote on Sun, 31 October 2010 09:48 |
| archerman wrote on Sun, 31 October 2010 02:32 |
if you ask me, doomsday could be near.
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Good thing nobody asked you (Or cares what the Turks think).
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Keep your racism, and ad hominem, to yourself. Verbal warning.
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Are we really going to pretend he isn't asking for it? Playing Dr. Phil and talking about abnormalities that cause instant death? And then doomsday is near?! Isn't there a max level of bullshit allowed in a single post?
As for racism, I can look past the Armenian genocide and the Batak massacre and all the other Turkish abuses, but archerman isn't exactly giving his people a good name. Notice how half his postcount disapeared after the spam fest wipe?
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Don't pretend the USA is much better, come on. You should be among the last of all people to complain.
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Of course not, but what the US does so well that Turkey utterly fails at is admitting their mistakes. We know our slavery phase was wrong and we can own up to it. We can look back on our imperialism phase and have a meaningful discussion on the negatives. Turkey, on the other hand still wants to pretend that the Armenian genocide never happened, that the Janissarys were all volunteers. It's like having a country full of halocaust deniers.
Every nation, almost without exception, has some historical skeletons in their closet that they're not proud of. It's how you deal with them afterwards that reveals character.
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| Re: how many renegade players have died in real life? [message #440151 is a reply to message #440145] |
Sun, 28 November 2010 04:04 |
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| Dover wrote on Sat, 27 November 2010 23:55 |
Of course not, but what the US does so well that Turkey utterly fails at is admitting their mistakes.
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To be fair, most countries rarely admit their mistakes. I think the USA is about the only one to, although we go about it the wrong way...
| Dover wrote on Sat, 27 November 2010 23: |
We know our slavery phase was wrong and we can own up to it.
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Only some of the intellectuals (of which, there aren't many of). Most people just feel "white guilt" about it, but don't really own up to it.
| Dover wrote on Sat, 27 November 2010 23:55 |
We can look back on our imperialism phase and have a meaningful discussion on the negatives.
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A lot of the US, if asked what their opinion on slavery was, would say "Slavery was BAD and it should have NEVER happened". I don't think anyone actually gets WHY it's bad; they just say it's bad. They're not wrong, but they're hardly capable of having a "meaningful discussion".
| Dover wrote on Sat, 27 November 2010 23:55 |
Every nation, almost without exception, has some historical skeletons in their closet that they're not proud of. It's how you deal with them afterwards that reveals character.
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It's not like the US has dealt with its problems very well, either. If you try and actually discuss why slavery was bad, all you can do is preach to the choir. "Slavery was so stupid, man!" etc, unless you want to be labeled as a racist and a slave driver.
I don't really call that a meaningful discussion.
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| Re: how many renegade players have died in real life? [message #440153 is a reply to message #440145] |
Sun, 28 November 2010 06:02 |
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| Dover wrote on Sun, 28 November 2010 06:55 |
| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Wed, 24 November 2010 10:36 |
| Dover wrote on Mon, 01 November 2010 01:20 |
| CarrierII wrote on Sun, 31 October 2010 05:26 |
| Dover wrote on Sun, 31 October 2010 09:48 |
| archerman wrote on Sun, 31 October 2010 02:32 |
if you ask me, doomsday could be near.
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Good thing nobody asked you (Or cares what the Turks think).
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Keep your racism, and ad hominem, to yourself. Verbal warning.
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Are we really going to pretend he isn't asking for it? Playing Dr. Phil and talking about abnormalities that cause instant death? And then doomsday is near?! Isn't there a max level of bullshit allowed in a single post?
As for racism, I can look past the Armenian genocide and the Batak massacre and all the other Turkish abuses, but archerman isn't exactly giving his people a good name. Notice how half his postcount disapeared after the spam fest wipe?
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Don't pretend the USA is much better, come on. You should be among the last of all people to complain.
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Of course not, but what the US does so well that Turkey utterly fails at is admitting their mistakes. We know our slavery phase was wrong and we can own up to it. We can look back on our imperialism phase and have a meaningful discussion on the negatives. Turkey, on the other hand still wants to pretend that the Armenian genocide never happened, that the Janissarys were all volunteers. It's like having a country full of halocaust deniers.
Every nation, almost without exception, has some historical skeletons in their closet that they're not proud of. It's how you deal with them afterwards that reveals character.
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I know this will be a sensitive subject, but what about Iraq? I have never heard an American official say that they were really wrong in invading Iraq.
They might have admitted that the reason (WMD's) might have been wrong, but then they claim it was for freedom and what not more. I could believe that, if the USA didn't have such a record of working with dictators that liked the USA.
Oh, and then the bodies that came out of the wikileaks closet... Afaik the USA has been hammering on the fact that the leaks are illegal, and not providing excuses for the wrongdoings described in them.
Now, I'm not saying the Netherlands (or the EU for that matter) is a lot better, perhaps it is, perhaps it's not. But I think it's wrong to blame countries for their stubbornness not to admit their mistakes, as there are virtually no countries that are willing to go that way, all the way. If one does, that country should be praised, if one does not, then I guess that's pretty much human nature.
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| Re: how many renegade players have died in real life? [message #440154 is a reply to message #440151] |
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| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Sun, 28 November 2010 12:04 |
| Dover wrote on Sat, 27 November 2010 23:55 |
Of course not, but what the US does so well that Turkey utterly fails at is admitting their mistakes.
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To be fair, most countries rarely admit their mistakes. I think the USA is about the only one to, although we go about it the wrong way...
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lol
especially funny considering what holiday was observed in the usa just a few days ago
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| Re: how many renegade players have died in real life? [message #440550 is a reply to message #440153] |
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| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sun, 28 November 2010 07:02 |
They might have admitted that the reason (WMD's) might have been wrong, but then they claim it was for freedom and what not more. I could believe that, if the USA didn't have such a record of working with dictators that liked the USA.
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i'm not sure i understand your point here, isn't it a good thing that the US finally decided to side with democratic movements against dictators? it certainly has a record of siding with dictators - including saddam himself - it's about fucking time that policy was reversed, isn't it?
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| Re: how many renegade players have died in real life? [message #440556 is a reply to message #440151] |
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| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Sun, 28 November 2010 03:04 |
| Dover wrote on Sat, 27 November 2010 23:55 |
Of course not, but what the US does so well that Turkey utterly fails at is admitting their mistakes.
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To be fair, most countries rarely admit their mistakes. I think the USA is about the only one to, although we go about it the wrong way...
| Dover wrote on Sat, 27 November 2010 23: |
We know our slavery phase was wrong and we can own up to it.
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Only some of the intellectuals (of which, there aren't many of). Most people just feel "white guilt" about it, but don't really own up to it.
| Dover wrote on Sat, 27 November 2010 23:55 |
We can look back on our imperialism phase and have a meaningful discussion on the negatives.
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A lot of the US, if asked what their opinion on slavery was, would say "Slavery was BAD and it should have NEVER happened". I don't think anyone actually gets WHY it's bad; they just say it's bad. They're not wrong, but they're hardly capable of having a "meaningful discussion".
| Dover wrote on Sat, 27 November 2010 23:55 |
Every nation, almost without exception, has some historical skeletons in their closet that they're not proud of. It's how you deal with them afterwards that reveals character.
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It's not like the US has dealt with its problems very well, either. If you try and actually discuss why slavery was bad, all you can do is preach to the choir. "Slavery was so stupid, man!" etc, unless you want to be labeled as a racist and a slave driver.
I don't really call that a meaningful discussion.
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There's a fine but meaningful line between "Slavery was wrong and should never have happened" and "Slavery never happened". I would see a Turk saying "The Batak masacare was wrong and should never have happened" as a step in the right direction.
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