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C&C Renegade: Sole Survivor Screenshots [message #43646]

Thu, 28 August 2003 17:51

Wild1
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No, its fixed on a waypoint, it essentially goes around the map on a loop.

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http://www.n00bstories.com/image.fetch.php?id=1055662786

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C&C Renegade: Sole Survivor Screenshots [message #43660]

Thu, 28 August 2003 18:28

dufis791
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i dont like how most the nod veicals look, every thing else looks awsum, i dont much care 4 the teleporters either.

btw, the pics of the infantry on ur site look like crap, hope they aint like that in the game. the veicals look better than the infantry.

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C&C Renegade: Sole Survivor Screenshots [message #43892]

Fri, 29 August 2003 14:33

SomeRhino
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I love the medium tank texture! It does look a bit like a plastic tank, but I like that because it looks just like the medium tank from Tiberian Dawn. It even has that little white square on the top of the turret, which you could always see in-game. I know it's not much but little details like that really do it for me Smile

Well, I still want to retain the feel of Tiberian Dawn, but what I believe ACK is referring to is the monotony of the texture. It's too "clean," so to speak. Take for example this:

My Medium Tank Texture:

http://www.n00bstories.com/image.fetch.php?id=1151265919

Westwood's Medium Tank Texture:

http://www.n00bstories.com/image.fetch.php?id=1102602593

Westwood's has a greater degree of realism than mine because they add imperfections and such to make it look real. Although I don't have Photoshop, I can give this a shot and see if I can make it look less plastic and more convincing.

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C&C Renegade: Sole Survivor Screenshots [message #43902]

Fri, 29 August 2003 14:55

warranto
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I don't know... unless it's not the intention of the mod, a cartoonish look would be a refreshing change of pace.

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Fri, 29 August 2003 14:58

dufis791
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lol, theres an idea! a "cartoon" map! lol, wouldnt be very poular, but it would b played occasionally

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C&C Renegade: Sole Survivor Screenshots [message #43930]

Fri, 29 August 2003 16:42

m1a1_abrams
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I still think the texture is very nice as it is, but I suppose there's always room for improvement with anything. You already have a few scratches here and there... and any self-respecting tank commander would make sure he had a nice clean paint-job, without any of those nasty parts where the metal shows through Razz

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C&C Renegade: Sole Survivor Screenshots [message #43935]

Fri, 29 August 2003 17:10

Slicer_238
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You want to know what a good Mode would be. Assualt and Defence. Assualt forces get more weak units like 12 players with 3 buggys and 5 light tanks aginst 8 players with 4 med tanks and 1 mammoth. And teh assualt has to take the postion. And the defense tanks don't respawn.

May Trey rest in forever bliss and happiness.

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C&C Renegade: Sole Survivor Screenshots [message #43937]

Fri, 29 August 2003 17:27

bigejoe14
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Yea, the Medium tank can use a little more roughness in it, but I would like it to retain it cartoony look to keeps it's classic C&C feel.

WHATEVER, FAGGOT

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C&C Renegade: Sole Survivor Screenshots [message #43953]

Fri, 29 August 2003 18:24

Majiin Vegeta
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the humvee has lights Surprised

do they light things up ?

looks good.. Very Happy

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C&C Renegade: Sole Survivor Screenshots [message #43958]

Fri, 29 August 2003 18:39

Jaspah
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Mmmmm, Lights! Very Happy

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C&C Renegade: Sole Survivor Screenshots [message #43959]

Fri, 29 August 2003 18:40

Aircraftkiller
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bigejoe14

Yea, the Medium tank can use a little more roughness in it, but I would like it to retain it cartoony look to keeps it's classic C&C feel.

The original C&C didn't look cartoonish at all... Check the videos, they looked like realistic vehicles and soldiers.

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Fri, 29 August 2003 19:02

m1a1_abrams
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I think he's talking about how it looked ingame. After all, that's much more memorable than the cutscenes. The Nod light tank was little more than a rectangle, with a circle for a turret and a black line for a gun barrel. I'm not sure whether this will be the final model but the current Sole Survivor light tank represents this ingame look, rather than going for the M2 Bradley, which to be honest, the ingame light tank looked nothing like (apart from them both being generally tank-shaped of course).

http://tdrmods.arzok.com/somerhino/SS/sslighttank.JPG

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Fri, 29 August 2003 19:12

Aircraftkiller
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You don't see the inherent idiocy in basing a modification off the in-game look of a game that came out in 1995?

Look at the purchase icons, or the in-game videos. Those show much more detail than anything the in-game engine could do.

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C&C Renegade: Sole Survivor Screenshots [message #43973]

Fri, 29 August 2003 19:24

Renx
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I think you should make the nod tank the color they where in the original cnc(like the first nod models that were made by westwood), that red it way to bright. And I think the infantry need some work. Other than that, I think this looks like a great mod. Keep up the good work. Very Happy

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Fri, 29 August 2003 19:30

m1a1_abrams
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It's nostalgia, it's not idiocy.

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C&C Renegade: Sole Survivor Screenshots [message #43982]

Fri, 29 August 2003 20:11

Aircraftkiller
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*Aircraftkiller sighs and adds Abrams to the list of people who Just Don't Get It...

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C&C Renegade: Sole Survivor Screenshots [message #43984]

Fri, 29 August 2003 20:20

m1a1_abrams
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I have a different opinion to you. I am allowed to, you know. Does it really matter that much?

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C&C Renegade: Sole Survivor Screenshots [message #43987]

Fri, 29 August 2003 20:27

Aircraftkiller
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No, but it's fun to write things in a condescending manner. Wink

Honestly, TD wasn't about toy soldiers and tanks fighting each other. It isn't Army Men 3D. No tank looks like it came off the assembly line with gloss paint and everything on it.

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Fri, 29 August 2003 20:28

bigejoe14
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I see where your going with this Aircraftkiller. But I think that this mod is supposed to capture the in-game feel and not a feel of a still shot or cinematic. That's why I said I would like the mod to retain a cartoony feel, like if you zoomed in really close lol.

WHATEVER, FAGGOT

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Fri, 29 August 2003 20:32

Aircraftkiller
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The cinematics are what told the story of the game... I find it really important to keep that feel.

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C&C Renegade: Sole Survivor Screenshots [message #43991]

Fri, 29 August 2003 20:40

m1a1_abrams
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To be honest I was a bit disappointed when I saw that they weren't using a model of the Bradley for the light tank, because I'm really fond of the M2 Bradley. However, if that tank model that I posted a picture of had a grey camo routine instead of red and black like the Renegade light tank, I think it would look really good. I have good memories of playing the original C&C back when I didn't even know that it was supposed to be a Bradley... I just saw what it looked like ingame, so for me the original Nod light tank looks like that. A rectangle with a circle for a turret Smile

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Fri, 29 August 2003 20:47

Aircraftkiller
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Look, the game's graphics were done in 1993 through 1995. They had no capacity for real detail on anything except the terrain, and even that was lacking.

If your argument held any water, WS would have made Renegade's vehicles all look like a box with a circular turret and the soldiers would all look like stick figures. The weapons would look like black sticks and the structures would be flat and boring.

You see what I'm saying now? You can't base a game off an outdated RTS' graphics engine. If you were to look at Generals - that's how TD could have looked had they waited until this time period to make it - there would be no excuse for making them look like toys.

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Fri, 29 August 2003 20:58

m1a1_abrams
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I'm not really saying that Renegade should have looked like that. I'm just saying that I like the way SomeRhino's vehicle models look, because they really capture the look and feel of Tiberian Dawn ingame. I don't know if that's what he's aiming for or not, I just happen to like it Razz

However, I'm sure that I would like it just as much if he decided to use more realistic models and textures instead.

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Fri, 29 August 2003 21:00

bigejoe14
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Hmmm... I think what abrams said about Nod having a grey camo outfit instead of a red and black would not be a bad idea.

WHATEVER, FAGGOT

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C&C Renegade: Sole Survivor Screenshots [message #44020]

Fri, 29 August 2003 22:07

SomeRhino
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Yes, I am going for a look based off the way the units looked in-game. However, I am referring to cutscenes, the manual, FAS Military Analysis and other sources to add detail to these units. It's necessary to add these details in order for it to look reasonable. So, although I want to retain the feel of Tiberian Dawn, I'm not going to use that as a reason to release a "cartoon" looking modification, because that would be a poor reason. I am always trying to improve at what I do, and in about a half-hours work I have improved the medium tank's texture alot. After I finish with it, I will start giving the other units a facelift, and move on to the standard textures and such.

Again I'll use my trusty medium tank to illustrate my point:

Before Facelift:

http://www.n00bstories.com/image.fetch.php?id=1355631120

After Facelift:

http://www.n00bstories.com/image.fetch.php?id=1329604323

Dri Reign

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