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Hey everyone I'm new to the forums and I had some quick questions for you guys. Back when I played renegade It was ran by westwood, but when westwood went under i stopped playing. I found this website last night going down memory lane an I realzed people still play Renegade. So I want to come back.
So:
1) Is renegade still going strong?
2) Who runs it now?
3) Do I just buy the orignal Renegade game?
4) Any mods or patches I need to play this game?
5) If Renegade is yesterdays news what other games like Renegade (2 teams, Tanks, helicopters, 1st/3rd person shooter) can I play.
Thank you!
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1) Is renegade still going strong?
Yes, only with a decreased number of players, but a couple of servers are still full all the time

2) Who runs it now?
The community XWIS.

3) Do I just buy the orignal Renegade game?
Yes.

4) Any mods or patches I need to play this game?
Renegade Patch 1.037. I also recommend that you install the Core Patch, this will makes your Renegade load map faster, adds more maps and features. Also make sure you install the latest scripts 3.4.4. This will fix some bugs and gives more options for your graphic settings

5) If Renegade is yesterdays news what other games like Renegade (2 teams, Tanks, helicopters, 1st/3rd person shooter) can I play.
Nothing.
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Re: Old player wants new info plz. [message #439501 is a reply to message #439498] Sun, 14 November 2010 13:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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welcome back Big Ups

and what di3 said


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Re: Old player wants new info plz. [message #439512 is a reply to message #439498] Sun, 14 November 2010 14:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Its always good to see old players coming back Thumbs Up .

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Re: Old player wants new info plz. [message #439513 is a reply to message #439512] Sun, 14 November 2010 15:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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liquidv2 wrote on Sun, 14 November 2010 21:08

welcome back Big Ups

and what di3 said



Mi-28 Havoc wrote on Sun, 14 November 2010 22:56

Its always good to see old players coming back Thumbs Up .

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Re: Old player wants new info plz. [message #439529 is a reply to message #439498] Sun, 14 November 2010 20:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Also, note that since Westwood's servers aren't around anymore, you have to use a different method to register a name (if you don't remember your old one, that is.)

Read up on how to do it here (in a way, it's actually much easier than it used to be:)
http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=25764&start=0&rid=4 915
Re: Old player wants new info plz. [message #439531 is a reply to message #439498] Sun, 14 November 2010 21:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just a note that as of right now the Core Patch and Scripts 4.0 are not compatible.


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Re: Old player wants new info plz. [message #439533 is a reply to message #439498] Sun, 14 November 2010 22:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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if the TT patch is coming out before 2012 that statement might be relevant

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Re: Old player wants new info plz. [message #439534 is a reply to message #439498] Sun, 14 November 2010 22:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Actually, I can say that (based on the decreasing number of bugs being picked up by the private beta testing team who are testing 4.0 on RA2:AR, Reborn, RA:APB and Renegade) we are getting closer to a public beta.

And I think I have found a solution to the organizational issues that we had before so that may be sorted soon too.


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Re: Old player wants new info plz. [message #439554 is a reply to message #439534] Mon, 15 November 2010 10:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jonwil wrote on Sun, 14 November 2010 23:58

Actually, I can say that (based on the decreasing number of bugs being picked up by the private beta testing team who are testing 4.0 on RA2:AR, Reborn, RA:APB and Renegade) we are getting closer to a public beta.

And I think I have found a solution to the organizational issues that we had before so that may be sorted soon too.





so let me ask you a question if scripts 4.0 does come out ? do you think we are going to get renegade going strong again or do you personally believe on your half that this is the end for renegade as we know it ?
Re: Old player wants new info plz. [message #439590 is a reply to message #439498] Mon, 15 November 2010 22:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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do you plan on letting any renegade players at all test it? like Spoony or other known knowledgeable people? or are we completely out of the loop Whats That

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Re: Old player wants new info plz. [message #439599 is a reply to message #439590] Tue, 16 November 2010 04:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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liquidv2 wrote on Tue, 16 November 2010 05:54

do you plan on letting any renegade players at all test it? like Spoony or other known knowledgeable people? or are we completely out of the loop Whats That


We're out of the loop, Liquid.

How many miles now?!?


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Caveman wrote on Fri, 21 January 2011 08:26

Well this topic is still going on. I have to say I haven't watched much Anime recently (maybe a year or so) the last thing I saw was GITS (for the third time)

Im not too sure whether I just dont enjoy Anime anymore or whether its just I dont have time really to shit and watch it.






Re: Old player wants new info plz. [message #439602 is a reply to message #439498] Tue, 16 November 2010 05:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spoony is on the TT team as Q/A and Balance consultant, so I hope he's had input into the patch testing.


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Re: Old player wants new info plz. [message #439605 is a reply to message #439498] Tue, 16 November 2010 07:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Why is it so hard to read?
TT DOES NOT change balance. One thing that has a real influence on gameplay is the pointfix, which is OPTIONAL.


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Re: Old player wants new info plz. [message #439606 is a reply to message #439498] Tue, 16 November 2010 08:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can we not turn this topic into another TT/Scripts 4.0 issue and go back to helping an old ren player out.

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Xpert wrote on Tue, 16 November 2010 10:10

Can we not turn this topic into another TT/Scripts 4.0 issue and go back to helping an old ren player out.


yeah seriously. I don't want to have to read another entire thread (I have no choice, I'm a faggot).

Please!!!
Re: Old player wants new info plz. [message #439642 is a reply to message #439605] Tue, 16 November 2010 20:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Tue, 16 November 2010 09:28

Why is it so hard to read?
TT DOES NOT change balance. One thing that has a real influence on gameplay is the pointfix, which is OPTIONAL.

I'm going to disagree with you on that one.

Balance adjustment isn't limited to changing some numbers to make something do more damage.

One thing that TT IS doing is adding a lot of effects and stuff to the game. Some of which might, for example, make something/someone easier/harder to see as opposed to how they were originally.

Things like that. You aren't intentionally trying to alter the balance, but it comes as a side effect to what you do intend to do. That's what the QA testers are for... apart from testing to see if the code actually works, of course.
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R315r4z0r wrote on Tue, 16 November 2010 21:30

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Tue, 16 November 2010 09:28

Why is it so hard to read?
TT DOES NOT change balance. One thing that has a real influence on gameplay is the pointfix, which is OPTIONAL.

I'm going to disagree with you on that one.

Balance adjustment isn't limited to changing some numbers to make something do more damage.

One thing that TT IS doing is adding a lot of effects and stuff to the game. Some of which might, for example, make something/someone easier/harder to see as opposed to how they were originally.

Things like that. You aren't intentionally trying to alter the balance, but it comes as a side effect to what you do intend to do. That's what the QA testers are for... apart from testing to see if the code actually works, of course.


Hush. This is a thread for a returning player. Your arguing is irrelevant. Find one of the hundred others.

As to the OP:

1) It's pretty much toast. That isn't at all to say you'll find fun times and full 50 player games, but overall, it's nothing even resembling the old WOL days. Which brings me to my next point:

2) EA eventually shut down WOL and it was replaced with a community run server known as "XWIS." It is NOT run by EA, but they were given authorization to be the official server. I say community run, but really, XWIS is pretty much irrelevant to us; we just get a server to play Renegade on, but they don't generally pay any mind to us as a whole.

3) That, or The First Decade (a compilation pack of every C&C game released up to Zero Hour excepting Sole Survivor) which was released a couple of years ago. However, if you're just looking for Renegade (or want a badass installer), just buy the original CD. Probably quite a bit cheaper too.

4) There's an FAQ thread in the Renegade section of these forums that I believe someone else posted in this topic. Basically, start with patch 1.037 (not needed if you use The First Decade), and then install Core Patch 2, followed by Scripts 3.4.4. However, I'd just look at the FAQ thread.

5) Honestly, just let me know when you find one.


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Instead of showing us that u aren't more inteligent than a Toast, maybe you should start becomming good in renegade Thumbs Up

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Re: Old player wants new info plz. [message #439648 is a reply to message #439642] Wed, 17 November 2010 04:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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R315r4z0r wrote on Wed, 17 November 2010 04:30

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Tue, 16 November 2010 09:28

Why is it so hard to read?
TT DOES NOT change balance. One thing that has a real influence on gameplay is the pointfix, which is OPTIONAL.

I'm going to disagree with you on that one.

Balance adjustment isn't limited to changing some numbers to make something do more damage.

One thing that TT IS doing is adding a lot of effects and stuff to the game. Some of which might, for example, make something/someone easier/harder to see as opposed to how they were originally.

Things like that. You aren't intentionally trying to alter the balance, but it comes as a side effect to what you do intend to do. That's what the QA testers are for... apart from testing to see if the code actually works, of course.


Bugs don't change gameplay. We're not adding things effecting gameplay. We're adding new features which makes the game more interesting, like a map/resource downloader.
And please, stop making suggestions about thing you don't know. I've ran TT scripts ages ago and I know more or less what is planned.


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I'm a tester, dude... Huh

And yes, bugs DO change gameplay. That is why they need to be tracked down and fixed. All of them might not necessarily effect balance, but regadless, side effects to what you do change is called a bug and some of them might have adverse effects on the balance of the game, whether you intend them to or not.

For example, an adjustment made to the game that causes the game to crash after you perform a certain action. That effects the balance of the game. If it is not fixed, then people won't be able to play the way they have become acustomed to.

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R315r4z0r wrote on Wed, 17 November 2010 15:33

I'm a tester, dude... Huh

And yes, bugs DO change gameplay. That is why they need to be tracked down and fixed. All of them might not necessarily effect balance, but regadless, side effects to what you do change is called a bug and some of them might have adverse effects on the balance of the game, whether you intend them to or not.

For example, an adjustment made to the game that causes the game to crash after you perform a certain action. That effects the balance of the game. If it is not fixed, then people won't be able to play the way they have become acustomed to.


Basically you're saying that we shouldn't fix any bug at all, because "then people won't be able to play the way they have become acustomed to." Can't you see the stupidity in that?
Bugfixing effects gameplay, yes, but they don't change the game.
Yes you might not be able to crash your buggy into that incomming mammy so he blue hells and yes that might affect balance, but please don't be a fool.


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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Wed, 17 November 2010 10:13

R315r4z0r wrote on Wed, 17 November 2010 15:33

I'm a tester, dude... Huh

And yes, bugs DO change gameplay. That is why they need to be tracked down and fixed. All of them might not necessarily effect balance, but regadless, side effects to what you do change is called a bug and some of them might have adverse effects on the balance of the game, whether you intend them to or not.

For example, an adjustment made to the game that causes the game to crash after you perform a certain action. That effects the balance of the game. If it is not fixed, then people won't be able to play the way they have become acustomed to.


Basically you're saying that we shouldn't fix any bug at all, because "then people won't be able to play the way they have become acustomed to." Can't you see the stupidity in that?
Bugfixing effects gameplay, yes, but they don't change the game.
Yes you might not be able to crash your buggy into that incomming mammy so he blue hells and yes that might affect balance, but please don't be a fool.

What? Where did you get that from?

I said making changes has adverse side effects called bugs. You need to fix these bugs or else the balance will suffer.

I never said anything about not wanting bugs to be fixed or anything even remotely similar. I said if they aren't fixed, then you are messing with the game's balance.
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R315r4z0r wrote on Wed, 17 November 2010 08:52

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Wed, 17 November 2010 10:13

R315r4z0r wrote on Wed, 17 November 2010 15:33

I'm a tester, dude... Huh

And yes, bugs DO change gameplay. That is why they need to be tracked down and fixed. All of them might not necessarily effect balance, but regadless, side effects to what you do change is called a bug and some of them might have adverse effects on the balance of the game, whether you intend them to or not.

For example, an adjustment made to the game that causes the game to crash after you perform a certain action. That effects the balance of the game. If it is not fixed, then people won't be able to play the way they have become acustomed to.


Basically you're saying that we shouldn't fix any bug at all, because "then people won't be able to play the way they have become acustomed to." Can't you see the stupidity in that?
Bugfixing effects gameplay, yes, but they don't change the game.
Yes you might not be able to crash your buggy into that incomming mammy so he blue hells and yes that might affect balance, but please don't be a fool.

What? Where did you get that from?

I said making changes has adverse side effects called bugs. You need to fix these bugs or else the balance will suffer.

I never said anything about not wanting bugs to be fixed or anything even remotely similar. I said if they aren't fixed, then you are messing with the game's balance.



If we take the BlueHell bug as an example, how does not fixing it mess with game balance, if it's the same it's always been?

And why would making changes make bugs? Sure it can, but why does it have to?


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Why does everything have to be black or white with you?

It's like you just enjoy arguing with whatever I say, no matter what it is. You know damn well what I meant, so I'm not even going to dignify your argument with a response.
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R315r4z0r wrote on Wed, 17 November 2010 10:58

I can't answer your simple questions, but I don't want to admit I'm wrong either.


Okay.


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