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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439354 is a reply to message #439352] |
Fri, 12 November 2010 17:21 |
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or you could skip the hypothetical altogether and go by the most prominent evidence available, i.e. public-servers and comm wars. in which case your list would have to be pretty seriously reorganised.
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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439356 is a reply to message #439171] |
Fri, 12 November 2010 17:38 |
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Spoon I know you're near the top out of who's left, but to claim #1 over Simpee, to me, is a little far fetched.
ps I pm'd Kill to come play some cw's this weekend but he's flipping H2reneburgzOrs.
I'm in for cw's though tomorrow for whomever is on, LETS DO DIS
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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439357 is a reply to message #439356] |
Fri, 12 November 2010 19:38 |
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why? i'm far superior in tactics and leadership, especially in large games, at least as good with tanks (probably better), better flyer... he might be the better sniper, i'll concede that minor point. and do honesty and fairplay merit any consideration (in an era of undetectable cheats, i'd say yes)... if so he's not in the top ten at all.
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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439361 is a reply to message #439358] |
Fri, 12 November 2010 20:44 |
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GoTWhisKéY wrote on Fri, 12 November 2010 21:44 | i think you squirted some personal beef juice in the eyes
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please feel free to isolate anything i said that you think is, like, not right.
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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439378 is a reply to message #439365] |
Sat, 13 November 2010 04:31 |
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Caveman wrote on Sat, 13 November 2010 01:23 | I cant believe people are actually arguing about who the best Renegader is. Spoon, would you please stop with the Im best leader all cos you ran .cc.
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i'm talking about in-game leading, not managing a ladder. if you're going to freak out at a topic, at least read it first, hmm?
Quote: | Its all well and good knowing how to do certain strats but to do them well is something entirely different. We all make mistakes, noone is perfect so spoon you might be renegod one day but the next you wont be.. Just like on glacier the other day when you was camping on the bridge with your mammy attacking a dead strip for about 10mins.
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the fact you have to lie through your teeth to make a point ought to make you stop and wonder "should i really be so angry right now?"
Quote: | Why dont we all just say spoony is the best player cos he really isn't going to drop it until he gets the last post that states he is the best renegader.. Something to be proud I guess.
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why you are so angry? is it because you lost the argument in the server-owner's forum and it's spilling over into any thread you see me post in? whatever the reason, just chill out.
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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439380 is a reply to message #439379] |
Sat, 13 November 2010 04:50 |
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Caveman wrote on Sat, 13 November 2010 05:38 | I dont recall losing any argument in that thread I simply gave up talking to someone who wasn't going to accept any other opinion that wasn't his. Kinda hard to talk to brick walls.
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so many people say this when they lose an argument. whatever makes you feel better. it HAS to be something wrong with the person you lost the argument to... the explanation CAN'T POSSIBLY be that you were just plain wrong, can it?
it's only an internet argument, friend... learn to deal with it.
Quote: | Leading a team or a ladder its all the same
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uh, no, there's a big difference between successfully managing a clan ladder or a community or whatever, and successfully leading a team to victory inside a computer game.
Quote: | you think you're gods gift for some unknown reason.
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again, why do you feel the need to lie? I've seen this before in a lot of arguments too... whenever someone can't refute what you say, they make up something you didn't say instead. it's always a sign of desperation.
Quote: | I am lying through my teeth about what? About you in Atomix like 3 days ago sitting on the bridge on Glacier_flying attacking a dead building that had been dead for 10mins even though you was told it was dead?
Would you care for me to pull the logs?
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10 minutes is the lie, and such a hideous one that it truly shows your desperation. 10 seconds might be nearer the mark. i'd been afk for a second and missed it dying, and on glacier the buildings don't look different when they're dead. whatever, if you think that small mistake that did no harm to the team means anything, then how angry it must make you that i killed the hand and the ob single-handedly, and had BY FAR the biggest score in the whole game thanks to hammering buildings and smashing tanks up. if you're gonna flame anyone from that game, it might be the guy who jumped to GDI when nod was 5000 down with only the ob, PP and ref. but you won't say anything about that, because you didn't lose an argument to him the day before... so you've no reason to be furious.
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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439381 is a reply to message #439380] |
Sat, 13 November 2010 05:07 |
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Dude you actually make me laugh, honestly, I can kinda see why people say that you're a cool guy. You're a joker, right?
People say talking to you is like talking to a brick wall. You REFUSE to accept anyone elses opinion if it doesn't match you own. Lets think about it.. If it was just me cos im renemad cos I lost an arguement why is it everyone else comes to the same conclusion?
Well no not really, both need someone who can actually talk to someone and not make them feel like you're better then them. Both require someone with drive. I'd say they had a lot in common with each other.
Have you or have you not said that you're better then everyone else at Ren? At running a cw ladder? At leading a team? etcccc That kinda gives off the impression that you're god.
Be honest now, it was kinda longer then 10secs, ok fine it wasn't exactly 10mins but still you was told multiple times and you just carried on. It was a mistake which happens, therefore that game you wasn't the best rene player.
Come on now, you wasn't 'smashing' tanks up at all. You whored on the strip for ages. I was the one who was smashing up tanks cos I was the one covering you with an orca. A higher score doesn't always mean better player, you generated a lot of points by whoring of the buildings, no? (Yeah you killed a few buildings, congrats) Yeah that guy on Nod made me lol when he tc'd and handed out credits.
All im saying is you need to stop classing yourself as mr high almighty which you seem to do on a daily basis.
Im not furious with you Spoony, just think you're really hard to talk to and therefore makes you a prick
On a side note; I did enjoy playing with you for that brief time.
CarrierII wrote | BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ
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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439386 is a reply to message #439381] |
Sat, 13 November 2010 06:48 |
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Caveman wrote on Sat, 13 November 2010 06:07 | Dude you actually make me laugh, honestly, I can kinda see why people say that you're a cool guy. You're a joker, right?
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this is what people who are really angry during forum arguments always say... i suppose it's easier than facing up to the fact that you're freaking out just because you were wrong over the internet.
Quote: | People say talking to you is like talking to a brick wall.
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always, and i mean always, IMMEDIATELY after they lose an argument.
Quote: | You REFUSE to accept anyone elses opinion if it doesn't match you own.
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like i said before, whatever makes you feel better about the fact you were completely wrong.
Quote: | Lets think about it.. If it was just me cos im renemad cos I lost an arguement why is it everyone else comes to the same conclusion?
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because you're not the only person who freaks out when they lose an internet argument, and you're not the only person who thinks that if someone defeated them there must be something wrong with them rather than "maybe i was wrong". it's exactly the same as saying someone cheated because they beat you in the game... the only difference is, when some n00b does that, everyone can see what an idiot they're being.
Quote: | Have you or have you not said that you're better then everyone else at Ren?
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in response to teh question "who are the best players around nowadays", i've given my honest response. would you prefer false modesty? i repudiated that already.
Quote: | At running a cw ladder?
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you aren't seriously disputing the fact i have a better track record of running a renegade clan ladder than anybody else? to say that is just to state the facts of the matter.
again, i think there's a strong case to be made there... look at the renforums community team, most of whom had never even played comm matches before at all. under my strategic leadership, they won the RGCT.
Quote: | etcccc That kinda gives off the impression that you're god.
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like i said, you can't dispute what i actually say, so you make up something i didn't say and laugh at that instead. it just shows how desperate and dishonest you are.
Quote: | Be honest now, it was kinda longer then 10secs, ok fine it wasn't exactly 10mins
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you say it was 10 mins and you're telling me to be honest? wow
Quote: | Come on now, you wasn't 'smashing' tanks up at all. You whored on the strip for ages. I was the one who was smashing up tanks cos I was the one covering you with an orca. A higher score doesn't always mean better player, you generated a lot of points by whoring of the buildings, no? (Yeah you killed a few buildings, congrats)
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it's interesting that you mention "you killed a few buildings, congrats" as if this is an afterthought. i killed the hand single-handedly in the beginning of the game - no saks, no ravs, and a limited number of techs. i killed the ob single-handedly late on, meaning we could swarm in and finish the job. do you think these are trivial matters if we're talking about a player's effect on the game? if so, just come out with it.
on to "whored on teh airstrip". tell me, what's bad about hammering an enemy building, forcing the enemy to repair and deal with your tank? are you one of these dumbasses who doesn't realise what a big help to your team that is? you talk like someone who's very new to this game. let me fill you in on something: throwing the word "whore" into a sentence doesn't automatically make it meaningful.
and "you wasn't smashing tanks up at all", i was shooting down apaches left and right... with a mammoth.
Quote: | All im saying is you need to stop classing yourself as mr high almighty which you seem to do on a daily basis.
Im not furious with you Spoony, just think you're really hard to talk to and therefore makes you a prick
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like i said, if you lose an argument, it can't be because you were wrong. it HAS to be something fishy about what the other person said. it's exactly the same as thinking anyone who beat you in renegade must be cheating. EXACTLY the same.
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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439388 is a reply to message #439171] |
Sat, 13 November 2010 07:44 |
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no beef to spoony but when the league was active, simpee was better than spoony, also people feared simpee quite alot more... u can check other's opinion about this in the numerous polls made on cw.cc forum in the past, askin you to put down the best 10 players. I just think simpee's gameplay was more dynamic than spoonys, but in essence the tactics used by alot of clans were very often quite the same, im sure simpee would have some trouble beating spoony and his mate in a 2v2, regardless of map/side... but i think in the end simpee will win the majority of the games
i dont think simpee every really played bigger clanwars like 5v5+ so im sure spoony has more experience in there, but 5v5's etc were never really played on clanwars.cc so therefor overall i rate simpee as better.
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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439391 is a reply to message #439386] |
Sat, 13 November 2010 08:02 |
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Spoony wrote on Sat, 13 November 2010 13:48 |
Caveman wrote on Sat, 13 November 2010 06:07 | Dude you actually make me laugh, honestly, I can kinda see why people say that you're a cool guy. You're a joker, right?
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this is what people who are really angry during forum arguments always say... i suppose it's easier than facing up to the fact that you're freaking out just because you were wrong over the internet.
Quote: | People say talking to you is like talking to a brick wall.
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always, and i mean always, IMMEDIATELY after they lose an argument.
Quote: | You REFUSE to accept anyone elses opinion if it doesn't match you own.
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like i said before, whatever makes you feel better about the fact you were completely wrong.
Quote: | Lets think about it.. If it was just me cos im renemad cos I lost an arguement why is it everyone else comes to the same conclusion?
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because you're not the only person who freaks out when they lose an internet argument, and you're not the only person who thinks that if someone defeated them there must be something wrong with them rather than "maybe i was wrong". it's exactly the same as saying someone cheated because they beat you in the game... the only difference is, when some n00b does that, everyone can see what an idiot they're being.
Quote: | Have you or have you not said that you're better then everyone else at Ren?
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in response to teh question "who are the best players around nowadays", i've given my honest response. would you prefer false modesty? i repudiated that already.
Quote: | At running a cw ladder?
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you aren't seriously disputing the fact i have a better track record of running a renegade clan ladder than anybody else? to say that is just to state the facts of the matter.
again, i think there's a strong case to be made there... look at the renforums community team, most of whom had never even played comm matches before at all. under my strategic leadership, they won the RGCT.
Quote: | etcccc That kinda gives off the impression that you're god.
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like i said, you can't dispute what i actually say, so you make up something i didn't say and laugh at that instead. it just shows how desperate and dishonest you are.
Quote: | Be honest now, it was kinda longer then 10secs, ok fine it wasn't exactly 10mins
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you say it was 10 mins and you're telling me to be honest? wow
Quote: | Come on now, you wasn't 'smashing' tanks up at all. You whored on the strip for ages. I was the one who was smashing up tanks cos I was the one covering you with an orca. A higher score doesn't always mean better player, you generated a lot of points by whoring of the buildings, no? (Yeah you killed a few buildings, congrats)
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it's interesting that you mention "you killed a few buildings, congrats" as if this is an afterthought. i killed the hand single-handedly in the beginning of the game - no saks, no ravs, and a limited number of techs. i killed the ob single-handedly late on, meaning we could swarm in and finish the job. do you think these are trivial matters if we're talking about a player's effect on the game? if so, just come out with it.
on to "whored on teh airstrip". tell me, what's bad about hammering an enemy building, forcing the enemy to repair and deal with your tank? are you one of these dumbasses who doesn't realise what a big help to your team that is? you talk like someone who's very new to this game. let me fill you in on something: throwing the word "whore" into a sentence doesn't automatically make it meaningful.
and "you wasn't smashing tanks up at all", i was shooting down apaches left and right... with a mammoth.
Quote: | All im saying is you need to stop classing yourself as mr high almighty which you seem to do on a daily basis.
Im not furious with you Spoony, just think you're really hard to talk to and therefore makes you a prick
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like i said, if you lose an argument, it can't be because you were wrong. it HAS to be something fishy about what the other person said. it's exactly the same as thinking anyone who beat you in renegade must be cheating. EXACTLY the same.
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Heh, Im not freaking out at all, as I keep telling you. I don't know why you keep saying this, maybe its a sign of depression? Maybe you really need to believe this so you keep telling me it? I dont see where I was wrong. How can one be wrong when its just an opinion?
Im not disputing anything, I was never in .cc and I never plan on joining .cc or anything of the alike so I can't say anything about your leader shit skills and I don't im just restating what you have said about yourself. Noone has ever been better then you and nor will they, right?
Be honest now Spoony, have you ever thought to yourself that maybe YOU was wrong? Maybe what these other people are telling you are right? I assume you haven't. I don't think you can actually face that. I think it would tear you apart.
When you took charge of this comm war or whatever it was, did you speak to these players like you speak to people on here that dont agree with you or did you speak to them civilly? Im gonna go with the latter and that is why they won. Yes they were under your orders however you spoke to them decently.
I fail to see where I have been dishonest... I exaggerated the AS thing, I wasn't dishonest. I was merely pointing out that everyone makes mistakes so you wasn't best reneplayer that do some other .cc was.
Yeah you killed the hand right at the start of the game and if you dont recall I came very close to killing there ref had it not been for a bad (for me) spawn, I got busted as I was throwing my motes. I never once said that you weren't a help to our team so I don't know why you think I have? However as I recall it wasn't spoony vs 7 pub server players.
Again, what argument have I lost? The one in server owners? I stood back because you wasn't going to listen. Im not going to waste my time retyping thing I had already said. If you want to take that as 'Yay I was right AGAIN and add it to your RenForums HOF' then so be it.
I think someone is taking this internet business a little too seriously.
CarrierII wrote | BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ
Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.
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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439394 is a reply to message #439171] |
Sat, 13 November 2010 09:05 |
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Quote: | no beef to spoony but when the league was active, simpee was better than spoony, also people feared simpee quite alot more... u can check other's opinion about this in the numerous polls made on cw.cc forum in the past, askin you to put down the best 10 players. I just think simpee's gameplay was more dynamic than spoonys, but in essence the tactics used by alot of clans were very often quite the same, im sure simpee would have some trouble beating spoony and his mate in a 2v2, regardless of map/side... but i think in the end simpee will win the majority of the games
i dont think simpee every really played bigger clanwars like 5v5+ so im sure spoony has more experience in there, but 5v5's etc were never really played on clanwars.cc so therefor overall i rate simpee as better.
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... not a single word of this relates to the question
Quote: | Im not disputing anything, I was never in .cc and I never plan on joining .cc or anything of the alike so I can't say anything about your leader shit skills and I don't im just restating what you have said about yourself. Noone has ever been better then you and nor will they, right?
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and yet again, you clearly have so much trouble disputing what i say, but you can't bring yourself to admit it... so you make up something and pretend i said it.
"Noone has ever been better then you and nor will they, right?"
not only did i clearly never say this, you can fairly easily infer that i think the exact opposite from my earlier post about Uded and Kill. but if you'd rather lie than face up to losing an argument, go ahead and show everyone your colours.
Quote: | Be honest now Spoony, have you ever thought to yourself that maybe YOU was wrong? Maybe what these other people are telling you are right? I assume you haven't. I don't think you can actually face that. I think it would tear you apart.
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the whole point of a debate is to give everyone the opportunity to make assertions and back them up, and i'm always the most in favour of an open debate. so your theory doesn't really survive a collision with the evidence, does it?
Quote: | When you took charge of this comm war or whatever it was, did you speak to these players like you speak to people on here that dont agree with you or did you speak to them civilly? Im gonna go with the latter and that is why they won. Yes they were under your orders however you spoke to them decently.
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my posts towards you are more civil than your posts towards me.
Quote: | I fail to see where I have been dishonest... I exaggerated the AS thing, I wasn't dishonest.
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yes, you were dishonest. 10 minutes? what the fuck? more importantly, you've several times pretended i said things i clearly did not say. that, friend, is very dishonest indeed, and you carry on trying it even after you're caught.
Quote: | I was merely pointing out that everyone makes mistakes so you wasn't best reneplayer that do some other .cc was.
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i'm having a bit of trouble understanding this sentence, maybe there's a typo or two... you mind having another go at it?
Quote: | Yeah you killed the hand right at the start of the game and if you dont recall I came very close to killing there ref had it not been for a bad (for me) spawn, I got busted as I was throwing my motes.
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you must think killing buildings is worthwhile after all, else you wouldn't mention your failed attempt to kill the ref.
Quote: | I never once said that you weren't a help to our team so I don't know why you think I have? However as I recall it wasn't spoony vs 7 pub server players.
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i wonder if you realise just how little your previous post indicated that you know about renegade strategy. look at what you said before... killing buildings seems trivial, hammering buildings for a long time forcing the enemy to repair and deal with your assault seems almost to be a bad thing... i don't seem to have picked up any credit for shooting multiple apaches down with a mammoth either.
Quote: | Again, what argument have I lost? The one in server owners? I stood back because you wasn't going to listen. Im not going to waste my time retyping thing I had already said.
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you're either lying again or you're a COMPLETE moron, dude. anyone can read that thread and see i listened to everything you said, and replied to all of it pointing out why you were being stupid and selfish. you, meanwhile, repeatedly dodged most of my points. so you're a liar as well as a hypocrite, well done.
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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439396 is a reply to message #439394] |
Sat, 13 November 2010 09:33 |
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The reason why you haven't said any of these things I have said you did is because you've been very careful how you've worded it. You've implied everything I have said.
You think you're the best at everything and everyone else's opinion either doesn't count or is invalid.
I dont see how or where I have been uncivil to you? I haven't flamed you with the exception of calling you a prick because of your attitude, which in my defense is my opinion that I am entitled to right? Dont agree to it? I don't care.
You know exactly what you're doing with the things you say, you know how to press peoples buttons to get a reaction out of them. Some people choose to ingnore however I don't think its fair that you can talk down to people because you think you're right. If you're right about something then that is fine but there is no need to be a sore winner.
I never once said killing buildings wasn't worthwhile.. Did I imply that? If so, that wasn't my intention. All I said was for the best part of the game you was whoring on the strip. I never said you didnt do anything else. Now who is saying things that I never said?
I dont see any credit for covering your ass with my orca, what you expect?
You bitched about 0x90 being trusted and I agreed with you however I said if he was to be trusted he could benefit the team whereas anyone could do you 'job' and comment on gameplay balance.
As I said in that topic I wasn't out to take sides or to flame you I just thought it was unfair you was being a dick towards EWD so I thought i'd step in and give my two pennies, which you didnt listen to and I gave up trying to explain it to you. So I believe someone else carried it on.
At the end of the day Spoon, if you spoke to people without whats the word.. Snobbiness? Attitude? Im not exactly sure on the word, people wouldnt have half the problem with you. As I said to you in PM I don't have a problem with you its just your attitude, its generally the attitude I saw while browsing .cc before. You best player, you're this, you're that, noone else mattered.
I see myself again sitting here trying to explain to you something that you're;
A) Never going to accept.
B) Don't care to listen to.
Aslong as you're Mr. Right nothing else matters?
CarrierII wrote | BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ
Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.
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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439400 is a reply to message #439396] |
Sat, 13 November 2010 10:05 |
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Caveman wrote on Sat, 13 November 2010 10:33 | The reason why you haven't said any of these things I have said you did is because you've been very careful how you've worded it. You've implied everything I have said.
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why are you lying through your teeth again? wasn't it bad enough that you've already been caught doing so? why make it worse?
here's one of the things you lied and pretended i said:
"Noone has ever been better then you and nor will they, right?"
study these two quotes from me (posted earlier than the lie you said there ^^):
"furthermore, starbuzzz's question is about who's best playa now, not several years ago, hence nobody mentioning uded or kill."
"kill was the best player in renegade for a maybe 3-year stretch, he's rusty now though"
clearly, i think the opposite of the lie you tried to pretend i said. you can infer it from the first quote and you can explicitly read it in the second quote. just admit you lied about this, don't make it even worse by saying i'm "careful how i worded it".
Quote: | You think you're the best at everything
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everything? gosh. i certainly didn't claim that.
Quote: | and everyone else's opinion either doesn't count or is invalid.
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again, you don't seem to realise how dishonest you're being. if you can't refute what i actually say, there's no shame in admitting it. it makes you a sad liar, though, to pretend i said things i did not say (or in some of your attempts, actually said the exact opposite)
Quote: | I dont see how or where I have been uncivil to you? I haven't flamed you with the exception of calling you a prick because of your attitude, which in my defense is my opinion that I am entitled to right? Dont agree to it? I don't care.
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if you don't think you're being uncivil, i guess your consistent lying is some kind of pathological compulsion rather than a conscious attempt to save e-face.
Quote: | You know exactly what you're doing with the things you say, you know how to press peoples buttons to get a reaction out of them. Some people choose to ingnore however I don't think its fair that you can talk down to people because you think you're right. If you're right about something then that is fine but there is no need to be a sore winner.
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like i said, this nonsense is exactly the same as calling someone a cheater because they beat you.
Quote: | I never once said killing buildings wasn't worthwhile.. Did I imply that? If so, that wasn't my intention.
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fine.
Quote: | All I said was for the best part of the game you was whoring on the strip.
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yes, as if it was a bad thing, which any fool can see it isn't. you seem to think putting the word "whoring" in a sentence about renegade means you actually have a point. newsflash, it doesn't.
you said "ok, you killed the hand and the ob" as if these are afterthoughts. (you say you didn't really mean that, fine), you say i didn't really kill vehicles (untrue, i was taking apaches down...)
Quote: | I never said you didnt do anything else. Now who is saying things that I never said?
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you, because i didn't say that you said that do yourself a favour, don't try to be clever
Quote: | I dont see any credit for covering your ass with my orca, what you expect?
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i haven't said anything bad about your contribution to the team in that game.
Quote: | You bitched about 0x90 being trusted and I agreed with you however I said if he was to be trusted he could benefit the team whereas anyone could do you 'job' and comment on gameplay balance.
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and i said i don't think anyone else could do it as well as i do. yet i prompted you to name names, and you didn't.
Quote: | As I said in that topic I wasn't out to take sides or to flame you I just thought it was unfair you was being a dick towards EWD
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you think *I* was being a dick towards him? wow, you really did miss a lot. i've never done anything wrong to him, despite the UNBELIEVABLY pathetic way he behaved recently, which he still hasn't apologised for.
Quote: | so I thought i'd step in and give my two pennies, which you didnt listen to and I gave up trying to explain it to you.
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again, you're lying through your teeth. that thread is still there in the server owner section. anyone with access can read it. they can plainly see that i am "listening to" what you said, and replied to everything you said. why do you keep lying? furthermore, they can also see that you repeatedly dodge several of the points i make. you're not only a liar, you're a hypocrite.
Quote: | At the end of the day Spoon, if you spoke to people without whats the word.. Snobbiness? Attitude? Im not exactly sure on the word, people wouldnt have half the problem with you. As I said to you in PM I don't have a problem with you its just your attitude, its generally the attitude I saw while browsing .cc before. You best player, you're this, you're that, noone else mattered.
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you realise you haven't actually demonstrated that there's anything wrong with what i've said? whereas you've been caught lying quite a lot of times in a very brief period.
Quote: | I see myself again sitting here trying to explain to you something that you're;
A) Never going to accept.
B) Don't care to listen to.
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A) would only be a criticism in my direction if it was due to my stubbornness as opposed to the fact you were wrong, and since you have been wrong several times (and caught lying even more often)...
B) is an obvious lie, as we've seen.
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