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Re: What happens after the first release? [message #435262 is a reply to message #434897] Sun, 22 August 2010 02:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Months....how about since 2003

Re: What happens after the first release? [message #435307 is a reply to message #435262] Sun, 22 August 2010 20:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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argathol3 wrote on Sun, 22 August 2010 04:17

Months....how about since 2003


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Re: What happens after the first release? [message #435539 is a reply to message #434897] Thu, 26 August 2010 06:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: What happens after the first release? [message #435738 is a reply to message #434897] Sat, 28 August 2010 09:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok, not sure if this is public information yet or not but basically:

1)EA has backeddown from its original commitment to the TT team, and is now hesitant to allow them access to the Renegade update server to push the actually patch

2)So, first they will have to release it to the public as a beta (but most likely 99% the same as the final version) and it will be optional.

3)Most servers will have to upgrade to SSGM 4.0, but then players will be split between scripts 2.x/3.x and those that manually downloaded and installed Scripts 4.0

4)After having it publically tested, the TT team will have to go back to EA to get it review by them either way (and this is where community support comes in)

So even if the TT patch is being released soon, its not exactly a short or simple way to make it mandatory....


Re: What happens after the first release? [message #435745 is a reply to message #434897] Sat, 28 August 2010 12:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Your 3) is strange... last info I got was that TT servers would be backwards compatible.

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Re: What happens after the first release? [message #435755 is a reply to message #434897] Sat, 28 August 2010 15:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yeah, when I was helping fix the glitched c4 stuff, I could connect to the TT servers with a normal ren client

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Re: What happens after the first release? [message #435766 is a reply to message #434897] Sat, 28 August 2010 17:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They are backwards compatible.
Re: What happens after the first release? [message #435774 is a reply to message #434897] Sat, 28 August 2010 23:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EA never promised to ship anything over the patcher as such. What they said is that if we come up with something good enough, they will evaluate it and will consider allowing it to be shipped over the patcher.

Tiberian Technologies has put a lot of effort into making sure that all features used by stock renegade (and 90% of the scripts 3.4.4 features) are backwards compatible with scripts 4.0. All players using scripts 3.4.4 or stock renegade (or old scripts versions like 2.9.2) will be able to join a scripts 4.0 server (or SSGM 4.0 server). All players using scripts 4.0 will be able to join a server with stock renegade or previous scripts (including previous SSGM).

The plan is that we will publish a beta that may or may not be 100% complete. (just so we can get something out there) Then during the beta cycle the remaining items from our todo list will get done and included in future betas. Once we have something stable enough, we will look into approaching EA about pushing it over the patcher.


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Re: What happens after the first release? [message #435822 is a reply to message #435774] Sun, 29 August 2010 21:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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and any time line of how long that would take?

I mean, months, years?

Just wondering.


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Re: What happens after the first release? [message #435951 is a reply to message #434897] Wed, 01 September 2010 16:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Even though the versions maybe backwards compatible... doesn't that mean that people who don't upgrade will be at a disadvantage to the people who do have the upgrade?

Is the gap between the two versions large enough for people who are using the old version to consider people who use the new version cheaters?

Not that I'm saying this patch is a cheat. I mean that does the patch offer so many new features that you are given an unfair advantage over players who use the older version?
Re: What happens after the first release? [message #435956 is a reply to message #434897] Wed, 01 September 2010 20:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If they're too stubborn or lazy to update then that's their problem imo, and if they don't even know about the patch then they probably won't know about any (dis)advantages to complain about.
Re: What happens after the first release? [message #436183 is a reply to message #434897] Mon, 06 September 2010 17:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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other than the fact that they are a giant pile of lag?

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Re: What happens after the first release? [message #439054 is a reply to message #434897] Mon, 08 November 2010 06:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just can't imagine starting renegade and after 8 long years it'd tell me for the first time:

A new update is available.
Re: What happens after the first release? [message #439055 is a reply to message #434897] Mon, 08 November 2010 06:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How many will come and post here: "THERE'S A VIRUS/EXPLOIT IN MY RENEGADE"?

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Re: What happens after the first release? [message #439063 is a reply to message #439055] Mon, 08 November 2010 10:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Mon, 08 November 2010 07:52

How many will come and post here: "THERE'S A VIRUS/EXPLOIT IN MY RENEGADE"?


75% of renegade


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Re: What happens after the first release? [message #439066 is a reply to message #439063] Mon, 08 November 2010 10:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gen_Blacky wrote on Mon, 08 November 2010 17:03

Goztow wrote on Mon, 08 November 2010 07:52

How many will come and post here: "THERE'S A VIRUS/EXPLOIT IN MY RENEGADE"?


75% of renegade


That figure is too low.


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Re: What happens after the first release? [message #439095 is a reply to message #434897] Mon, 08 November 2010 15:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: What happens after the first release? [message #439743 is a reply to message #434897] Fri, 19 November 2010 11:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Scripts 5.0?

LOL


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Re: What happens after the first release? [message #439744 is a reply to message #439743] Fri, 19 November 2010 11:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tiesto wrote on Fri, 19 November 2010 19:27

Scripts 5.0?

LOL

Scripts 4.1 and some of the new features will be new console and input system. Or at least things related to that. I'm not enough of a coder to figure that out.


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Re: What happens after the first release? [message #439746 is a reply to message #439744] Fri, 19 November 2010 11:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Fri, 19 November 2010 18:34

Tiesto wrote on Fri, 19 November 2010 19:27

Scripts 5.0?

LOL

Scripts 4.1 and some of the new features will be new console and input system. Or at least things related to that. I'm not enough of a coder to figure that out.

Yeah, i imagine updated versions of 4.0 will come out, but an entire new scripts? Come on..


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Re: What happens after the first release? [message #439747 is a reply to message #439746] Fri, 19 November 2010 11:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tiesto wrote on Fri, 19 November 2010 19:37

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Fri, 19 November 2010 18:34

Tiesto wrote on Fri, 19 November 2010 19:27

Scripts 5.0?

LOL

Scripts 4.1 and some of the new features will be new console and input system. Or at least things related to that. I'm not enough of a coder to figure that out.

Yeah, i imagine updated versions of 4.0 will come out, but an entire new scripts? Come on..

4.1 does not sound like "an entire new scripts" to me. 5.0 could be, but I guess that any scripts with major version higher than 4 would be more likely a complete remake of Renegade and will take like 10 years if not more.

I don't see it happening.


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Re: What happens after the first release? [message #439750 is a reply to message #439747] Fri, 19 November 2010 12:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Fri, 19 November 2010 18:45

Tiesto wrote on Fri, 19 November 2010 19:37

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Fri, 19 November 2010 18:34

Tiesto wrote on Fri, 19 November 2010 19:27

Scripts 5.0?

LOL

Scripts 4.1 and some of the new features will be new console and input system. Or at least things related to that. I'm not enough of a coder to figure that out.

Yeah, i imagine updated versions of 4.0 will come out, but an entire new scripts? Come on..

4.1 does not sound like "an entire new scripts" to me. 5.0 could be, but I guess that any scripts with major version higher than 4 would be more likely a complete remake of Renegade and will take like 10 years if not more.

I don't see it happening.

I think you misunderstood me, as you've basically just repeated what i said.


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Re: What happens after the first release? [message #439810 is a reply to message #434897] Sat, 20 November 2010 17:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So is it safe to say it's time to delete the part of the forum these threads occupy?

Re: What happens after the first release? [message #439829 is a reply to message #434897] Sun, 21 November 2010 10:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Why?

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Re: What happens after the first release? [message #439843 is a reply to message #434897] Sun, 21 November 2010 14:00 Go to previous message
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argathol3 wrote on Sat, 20 November 2010 18:08

So is it safe to say it's time to delete the part of the forum these threads occupy?


Yup.

It's sad what is happening dont get me wrong, I mean I respect what TT is doing.
While Renegade is a fantastic game it starts getting less and less worthwhile to save it.

It might even be possible that the 'false hope' did especially what it shouldn't do. That is to drive people away.
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