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Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #438797 is a reply to message #438751] Tue, 02 November 2010 15:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #438799 is a reply to message #438227] Tue, 02 November 2010 17:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A CnC MMO would be cool... if done right. And frankly, I don't know whether or not that's possible at this stage.

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Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #438800 is a reply to message #438799] Tue, 02 November 2010 17:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Altzan wrote on Tue, 02 November 2010 18:24

A CnC MMO would be cool... if done right. And frankly, I don't know whether or not that's possible at this stage.

C&C: Continuum was going to be an MMORPG. It was gonna have some pretty awesome shit from what I recall, but it got trashed along with the rest of Westwood's projects (Renegade 2, C&C: Incursion (AKA C&C3).

A C&C MMO would be great, but if it were made by EA... God, it'd be Lord of the Rings Online and Dragonball Online and Star Wars Galaxies and every other MMORPG that everyone wanted but failed so fucking hard and fell into the cliche bullshit that fills up every other MMORPG all over again.


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Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #438815 is a reply to message #438800] Wed, 03 November 2010 03:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Wed, 03 November 2010 01:45

Altzan wrote on Tue, 02 November 2010 18:24

A CnC MMO would be cool... if done right. And frankly, I don't know whether or not that's possible at this stage.

C&C: Continuum was going to be an MMORPG. It was gonna have some pretty awesome shit from what I recall, but it got trashed along with the rest of Westwood's projects (Renegade 2, C&C: Incursion (AKA C&C3).

A C&C MMO would be great, but if it were made by EA... God, it'd be Lord of the Rings Online and Dragonball Online and Star Wars Galaxies and every other MMORPG that everyone wanted but failed so fucking hard and fell into the cliche bullshit that fills up every other MMORPG all over again.

If EA would make a proper MMORTS then it could be completely totally awesome. Think of TS world domination but then with an near endless map with the possibility to ask for reinforcements on the fly (extra commanders). This could create an awesomely dynamic almost real life like war environment. Would possibly take quite some computing power, but I guess they'll just have to cut back on the ridicules lasers and overdone explosions.


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Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #438816 is a reply to message #438815] Wed, 03 November 2010 04:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Wed, 03 November 2010 04:54

GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Wed, 03 November 2010 01:45

Altzan wrote on Tue, 02 November 2010 18:24

A CnC MMO would be cool... if done right. And frankly, I don't know whether or not that's possible at this stage.

C&C: Continuum was going to be an MMORPG. It was gonna have some pretty awesome shit from what I recall, but it got trashed along with the rest of Westwood's projects (Renegade 2, C&C: Incursion (AKA C&C3).

A C&C MMO would be great, but if it were made by EA... God, it'd be Lord of the Rings Online and Dragonball Online and Star Wars Galaxies and every other MMORPG that everyone wanted but failed so fucking hard and fell into the cliche bullshit that fills up every other MMORPG all over again.

If EA would make a proper MMORTS then it could be completely totally awesome. Think of TS world domination but then with an near endless map with the possibility to ask for reinforcements on the fly (extra commanders). This could create an awesomely dynamic almost real life like war environment. Would possibly take quite some computing power, but I guess they'll just have to cut back on the ridicules lasers and overdone explosions.

Actually it wouldn't take much computing power at all if the games are instanced... many MMORPG's do this nowadays (Dungeon Fighter Online, Vindictus, etc). Some just have parts that are instanced, where as others aren't. It's not that hard, and is totally feasible.

EALA just sucks too much dick to do anything creative and out of the usual genre-bound bullshit they throw out.


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Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #438836 is a reply to message #438227] Wed, 03 November 2010 13:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't think a C&C MMO would be a good idea just yet.

There needs to be a base line story first. Since C&C is an RTS game mainly, a new storyline has to be an RTS first before it is adapted into an FPS or MMO.

The Tiberium universe would have been a good setting if they didn't make C&C4. Since the world was at death's doorstep, civilization would be in chaos.. which is the perfect setting for an MMO. However, since C&C4 not only introduced the Tiberium Control Network, but it also ended Kane's story arc. That means the world is all pieceful now and it will no longer make a good MMO.

Generals and Red Alert wouldn't be good MMOs because they rely solely on military aggression whereas a Tiberium MMO would have allowed you to become a regular citizen just trying to survive and thus aligning yourself with what you think was right.

So, the only hope now for a C&C MMO is that EA first has to create a new universe that does not rely on 'military power' factions.
Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #438840 is a reply to message #438836] Wed, 03 November 2010 16:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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R315r4z0r wrote on Wed, 03 November 2010 15:18

I don't think a C&C MMO would be a good idea ever.

well said


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Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #438842 is a reply to message #438836] Wed, 03 November 2010 16:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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R315r4z0r wrote on Wed, 03 November 2010 21:18

I don't think a C&C MMO would be a good idea just yet.

There needs to be a base line story first. Since C&C is an RTS game mainly, a new storyline has to be an RTS first before it is adapted into an FPS or MMO.

The Tiberium universe would have been a good setting if they didn't make C&C4. Since the world was at death's doorstep, civilization would be in chaos.. which is the perfect setting for an MMO. However, since C&C4 not only introduced the Tiberium Control Network, but it also ended Kane's story arc. That means the world is all pieceful now and it will no longer make a good MMO.

Generals and Red Alert wouldn't be good MMOs because they rely solely on military aggression whereas a Tiberium MMO would have allowed you to become a regular citizen just trying to survive and thus aligning yourself with what you think was right.

So, the only hope now for a C&C MMO is that EA first has to create a new universe that does not rely on 'military power' factions.


Read what I said, MMORTS would be awesome. Also allows them to rewrite the storyline after TS.


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Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #438850 is a reply to message #438836] Wed, 03 November 2010 23:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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R315r4z0r wrote on Wed, 03 November 2010 14:18

I don't think a C&C MMO would be a good idea just yet.

There needs to be a base line story first. Since C&C is an RTS game mainly, a new storyline has to be an RTS first before it is adapted into an FPS or MMO.

The Tiberium universe would have been a good setting if they didn't make C&C4. Since the world was at death's doorstep, civilization would be in chaos.. which is the perfect setting for an MMO. However, since C&C4 not only introduced the Tiberium Control Network, but it also ended Kane's story arc. That means the world is all pieceful now and it will no longer make a good MMO.

Generals and Red Alert wouldn't be good MMOs because they rely solely on military aggression whereas a Tiberium MMO would have allowed you to become a regular citizen just trying to survive and thus aligning yourself with what you think was right.

So, the only hope now for a C&C MMO is that EA first has to create a new universe that does not rely on 'military power' factions.


Or they pull a Star Trek and reboot the series starting from C&C3- only this time they don't cock it up.

I've been suggesting this for awhile now, but no one seems to notice...


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Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #438905 is a reply to message #438227] Fri, 05 November 2010 08:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"At that point, EALA had another big project on the table: a real-time strategy/first-person shooter hybrid set in the Command & Conquer Generals universe known as "Project Camacho," named after the president from Idiocracy. And for financial reasons, then EALA general manager Mike Verdu -- who took over for Young as studio head, while former Westwood head Louis Castle (pictured with Spielberg, above) took over Young's Blueprint group -- had to choose between the two, so he cancelled Project Camacho and moved most of its team onto LMNO."

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fucking what the fuck...
Every time I say EA sucks and think they can not do any worse, I find shit like this out.

While I really did not like Generals (not getting into best C&C game with you guys Razz), I would totally play "Project Camacho".
Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #438913 is a reply to message #438850] Fri, 05 November 2010 10:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Thu, 04 November 2010 02:07


Or they pull a Star Trek and reboot the series starting from C&C3- only this time they don't cock it up.

I've been suggesting this for awhile now, but no one seems to notice...

Nah, the series is said and done. I wont support it if they reboot it... especially if they do it from the mid point of the series. That wouldn't make any sense.

They fumbled hard with the series and royally screwed up. They (we) have to live with it. Making a reboot would only make it even worse.

The Tiberium universe was my favorite series. Because of that, I don't ever want to see it again unless it's in another game genre (like an FPS.) Technically, I guess they could still make it an MMO if it took place before C&C4.. but I think it would be better to just drop the series completely and work on something new.
Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #438969 is a reply to message #438797] Sat, 06 November 2010 05:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Wed, 03 November 2010 00:15

Zeratul wrote on Tue, 02 November 2010 02:25

liquidv2 wrote on Mon, 01 November 2010 18:24

World of Command and Conquer
...craft


World of command and conquer craft 2: the death of command and conquer

Tiberium World of command and conquer tiberian craft alert 3: the final tiberium death of command and conquer


cummand & con-cure: revenge of plecos two days before teh day after tomorrow in obama's wonderland

nuff said.


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Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #439016 is a reply to message #438227] Sun, 07 November 2010 09:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How about you guys stopping getting angry over a game we know nothing about.

You guys are virtually raging over a game you know NOTHING about.



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Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #439021 is a reply to message #438227] Sun, 07 November 2010 10:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #439022 is a reply to message #439016] Sun, 07 November 2010 10:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tiesto wrote on Sun, 07 November 2010 10:42

How about you guys stopping getting angry over a game we know nothing about.

You guys are virtually raging over a game you know NOTHING about.




No, not the game - over their past games, and what that implies about the new ones.

But yeah, we should just wait and see at this point.


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Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #439023 is a reply to message #438850] Sun, 07 November 2010 14:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Thu, 04 November 2010 01:07

Or they pull a Star Trek and reboot the series starting from C&C3- only this time they don't cock it up.

I've been suggesting this for awhile now, but no one seems to notice...

yah, kane gets his hands on the chronosphere and goes back in time
good thinking!


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Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #439024 is a reply to message #439016] Sun, 07 November 2010 15:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tiesto wrote on Sun, 07 November 2010 10:42

How about you guys stopping getting angry over a game we know nothing about.

You guys are virtually raging over a game you know NOTHING about.



Every time I've raged against a C&C game I know nothing about, I end up being proven right

I really want to be proven wrong, though

liquidv2 wrote on Sun, 07 November 2010 21:58


yah, kane gets his hands on the chronosphere and goes back in time
good thinking!


or they could just be like "so like, when that Chronosphere shit happened a like, huge amount of alternate universes were spawned, ya feel me? yeah then like in this one tiberium spread MORE after Tiberian Sun, Nod didn't become the new GLA, and GDI's technology doesn't get set back"

I'd buy 10 copies


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Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #439036 is a reply to message #439024] Sun, 07 November 2010 19:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Sun, 07 November 2010 14:00

"and GDI's technology doesn't get set back"


I think they explained pretty well why they moved away from the walker nonsense in C&C 3. It didn't look as cool as people claimed it did in TS anyway.


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Dover wrote on Sun, 07 November 2010 20:18

I think they explained pretty well why they moved away from the walker nonsense in C&C 3. It didn't look as cool as people claimed it did in TS anyway.

did they then explain why every fucking thing walked in C&C 4?


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liquidv2 wrote on Sun, 07 November 2010 20:49

Dover wrote on Sun, 07 November 2010 20:18

I think they explained pretty well why they moved away from the walker nonsense in C&C 3. It didn't look as cool as people claimed it did in TS anyway.

did they then explain why every fucking thing walked in C&C 4?


Huh? I didn't even bother buying that monstrocity. I've loved the C&C genre since my childhood, but that love can only take so much abuse. RA3 was the last straw for me. :[


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Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #439042 is a reply to message #438227] Mon, 08 November 2010 00:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: New C&C game confirmed! [message #439048 is a reply to message #439036] Mon, 08 November 2010 04:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dover wrote on Sun, 07 November 2010 20:18

GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Sun, 07 November 2010 14:00

"and GDI's technology doesn't get set back"


I think they explained pretty well why they moved away from the walker nonsense in C&C 3. It didn't look as cool as people claimed it did in TS anyway.

Oh it's not even the lack of walkers. They lacked hover stuff, their scout units were wheel based, etc. It all felt like the technology was between TD and TS is the thing. I can dig the lack of walkers (Although I really did miss Titans), but in whole the technology just felt like it was set back from TS.

I haven't played C&C4, but I rather liked the unit designs (except the Crayola avatar). They felt more like what C&C3's should have been.


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You would not like the way they look. I guarantee it.
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R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 08 November 2010 06:36

You would not like the way they look. I guarantee it.


That's pretty clever! That's like, a 6/10 on the clever scale. C, C- level clever.


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