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Sat, 16 October 2010 04:33  |
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reborn
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Program something w3d!
This is the first in a series of competitions being run by MP-Gaming. This first competition is aimed at programmers, but before I start explaining, I'd like to let our Special guest announcer introduce the competition. Please click on the link below for the audio file to begin playing.
Introduction
How kick-ass was that?!
The competition officially starts today, and I will stop accepting submissions on Nov 17th, with the announcement of who won to be expected on Nov 24th.
The competition is pretty flexible, the idea being you have to submit a piece of software/application/plugin/tool etc that's been designed for the w3d engine. This could range from tools designed for the game, to adding extra functionality to the game itself.
As you can see, you're able to get pretty creative and go almost anywhere you want with your submission. The idea can be as far outside the box as you like, but it has to be based around the w3d engine.
The winner of the competition will have the most creative, most useful and most practical submission. These are the qualities it's being judged on.
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The rules:
No cheat will be accepted.
The submission must not contain malicious code.
The submission must include the source code with an understanding that it will be released as open source software (unless there is a high chance of the code being used for malicious purposes).
The submission can include open source code, but must contain a significant amount of your own contribution.
The submission must not already be previously released or in the public domain already.
You must be willing to submit your name and address if you win (this will be treated confidentially).
You must include a picture or movie demostrating the software.
The submission can be written in any language.
You can submit more than one piece of software to include a higher chance of winning.
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To enter, please post your submission here.
Updates, pictures, movies and other WIP's are very encouraged, so please post as you go so we can all watch the progress!
Now for something to be a competition, surely it must contain a prize? Have no fear, as my friend Havok already mentioned, there are prizes to be won! There are Two places, 1st and 2nd.
1st place prizes:
Three Command & Conquer Renegade styled mouse pads
One Command & Conquer styled drinking mug
One new and sealed copy of "The First Decade"
19 SRA3 professionaly printed Command & Conquer styled posters
One autographed picture of Jo "Kane" Kucan (that's right, not only does Havok endorse the compeition, but the messiah has also rubber stamped his authority over this!).
2nd place prizes:
19 SRA3 professionaly printed Command & Conquer styled posters
One new and sealed copy of Command & Conquer Renegade
One autographed picture of Jo "Kane" Kucan
Check out the pictures below to take a look at the prizes!
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| Re: Program something w3d [message #437979 is a reply to message #437977] |
Sat, 16 October 2010 04:36  |
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Damn those are some big a** pictures 
You should start a store, selling renegade related items 
Decent people = Reaver11, ErroR, all of the mods and admins, DRNG Naffets199, Amber, Dover, GEORGE ZIMMER,Zeratul, Starbuzzzz, kane,R315r4z0r,gnoepower, Danpaul88,HaTe,WNxVerty Tiberian Technologies Generalcamo, , . If you want me to add you on the decent peoples list PM me.
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.AIRCRAFT KILLER YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG JACKAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU CREATE GLACIER FLAYING FUCK YOU BIG JAKAS YOUR MAPS IS BAD YOU WANT I WRUGHT THIS THE MAPS IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR
YOUR PROMESS A CON YARD WIRH A SINGLE PLAYER POWER PLANT IN ONE
MAPS AND IS DONT JUST ACK I TELL IT ALL REPLYER IN THIS FORUM I DESLIKE YOUâ„¢ 2003
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Zeratul PT2 | zeratul2400 wrote on Mon, 10 November 2003 09:49 |
GENOCIDE YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG JACKAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU CREATE DUSK FLAYING FUCK YOU BIG JAKAS YOUR MAPS IS BAD YOU WANT I WRUGHT THIS THE MAPS IS BAD HEY IS ONE YEAR YOUR PROMESS A WARPATH MOD WERKING BUT IT NO WORK AND DONT JUST GENOCIDE I TELL IT ALL REPLYER IN THIS FORUM I DESLIKE YOU.
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lol| nikki6ixx wrote on Wed, 09 June 2010 05:11 |
With only 14 people living in Canada, the retarded one was bound to show up around here sooner or later.
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| HaTe wrote on Sun, 04 July 2010 16:17 |
| Good-One-Driver wrote on Sun, 04 July 2025 01:37 |
everything is possible just need to know how to code
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Jumping from the empire state building onto concrete head first and surviving is possible if I know how to code? Wow, teach me please.
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| CarrierII wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 22:35 |
I am in a bad mood with you, you wasted my time.
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| Altzan wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 14:10 |
| Dreganius wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 07:27 |
| Good-One-Driver wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 09:03 |
lol fuckin russians damn communists
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That was the worst comment to this thread ever.
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| Nightma12 wrote on Wed, 08 June 2011 14:27 |
your mum is a stupid language
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| reborn wrote on Sun, 20 November 2011 11:54 |
Liquedv2, yew need to branch out a little on your thinking. I'm sure you'll twig it soon enough, but you're barking up the wrong tree.
The map is budding with new ideas and great game-play, AitcraftKiller just has to get to the root of the problem, it seems to have him pretty stumped right now.
Leaf him alone, he's doing a good job. I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say this map isn't fir you.
Anyway, this thread is really starting to lumber along, all this over some sap's map? I thought the game was dead, but this thread at least is poplar. It makes me pine for the days of yonder.
At the end of the day, life's a Beech.. Who wood of thought it?
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| Ethenal wrote on Sun, 25 March 2012 16:53 |
| Azazel wrote on Sun, 25 March 2012 10:20 |
6 Players don't know how to use a tank.
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But 1 knows how to use triggerbot!
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| Re: Program something w3d [message #437987 is a reply to message #437977] |
Sat, 16 October 2010 06:17 |
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Some time ago, I offered to take stab at writing a 64-bit tool for generating VIS data for maps, but I needed more info about the file format before I could get anywhere.
I've decided I could "cheat", and just write a (64-bit) DLL that lets you describe the terrain (by just taking X, Y, Z coordinate arguments for every vertex of every mesh present) then taking zone size info (and the vis clipping distance, which is 300 by default, right?), and using it to calculate visibility info and dumping the info out in a text file or something similar that could then be used to compile the .mix complete with VIS info. If I tried hard enough, I could write one that was technically capable of unlimited size maps (something that the Roleplay2 people might like).
Problems:
1) This approach is slow (the translation to my arbitary format and back again will take ages).
2) I don't quite know how to write VIS algorithms exactly, but I can work round that.
I could also maybe make the computation of the VIS info multithreaded, so it can run a lot faster. 
Does anyone want to collaborate with me on this? (Yrr, I'm looking at you here, because you know stuff about the LE <--> MIX conversion process.  )
Renguard is a wonderful initiative
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| halokid wrote on Mon, 11 October 2010 08:46 |
| R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 11 October 2010 15:35 |
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the hell is that?
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| Re: Program something w3d [message #437989 is a reply to message #437988] |
Sat, 16 October 2010 06:33 |
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| danpaul88 wrote on Sat, 16 October 2010 14:28 |
Out of interest, why does it have to be 64 bit?
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LE (a 32-bit program) frequently reports running out of memory whilst attempting to calculate higher precision VIS, or VIS for larger maps, or at least, that's my understanding of the problem.
Renguard is a wonderful initiative
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Supporters of Proposition 8 will argue California does not discriminate against gays, as the current law allows them to get married - as long as they wed a partner of the opposite sex.
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| halokid wrote on Mon, 11 October 2010 08:46 |
| R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 11 October 2010 15:35 |
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the hell is that?
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| Re: Program something w3d [message #437990 is a reply to message #437977] |
Sat, 16 October 2010 06:33 |
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YRR has left the renegade community.
Also, the actual calculations for VIS (including taking into account all manual VIS points) are likely VERY complex.
If I get some spare time, I might go and take a look at the VIS code since we have already reverse engineered big bits of the physics system for 4.0 which would help with a VIS implementation.
I took a look a while back at the pathfinding code a while back (thinking about a 64 bit tool for that) and basically gave up due to the vast quantities of math code that would need to reverse engineered.
Jonathan Wilson aka Jonwil
Creator and Lead Coder of the Custom scripts.dll
Renegade Engine Guru
Creator and Lead Coder of TT.DLL
Official member of Tiberian Technologies
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| Re: Program something w3d [message #437992 is a reply to message #437977] |
Sat, 16 October 2010 06:46 |
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There is a LOT of code in the culling system classes that has to do with VIS.
If you think you can produce usable VIS output, go ahead. But dont expect it to be easy (and dont expect much in the way of help, all the people who know anything usefull are either gone from the community or uber-busy)
Jonathan Wilson aka Jonwil
Creator and Lead Coder of the Custom scripts.dll
Renegade Engine Guru
Creator and Lead Coder of TT.DLL
Official member of Tiberian Technologies
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| Re: Program something w3d [message #438032 is a reply to message #437977] |
Sun, 17 October 2010 00:58 |
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ok not trying to be a prick but could have possibly made the pictures a little larger? i just bought an HD projector so i can read forums on the side of my house and i had to bust out a magnifying glass to see them ...
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| Re: Program something w3d [message #438034 is a reply to message #438031] |
Sun, 17 October 2010 01:44 |
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| halo2pac wrote on Sun, 17 October 2010 03:45 |
Bah my best ideas are already released. And my other ideas I really don't want open source. And then my super ideas are in progress and would take too long 
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If the source could be used for malicious purposes, then there is a valid reason to not post the code.
I've now resized the photo's so it doesn't make your head explode to see them.
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| Re: Program something w3d [message #438065 is a reply to message #438049] |
Sun, 17 October 2010 21:53 |
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halo2pac
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| trooprm02 wrote on Sun, 17 October 2010 11:17 |
| Samurai8 wrote on Sun, 17 October 2010 02:58 |
ok not trying to be a prick but could have possibly made the pictures a little larger? i just bought an HD projector so i can read forums on the side of my house and i had to bust out a magnifying glass to see them ...
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LOL
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that's not the only thing he had to bust a magnifying glass out to see.
...not trying to be a prick or anything.
i lol'd. Hard too.
But what ya think aboot me ideaz reb?
Rene-Buddy | Renegade X
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| Re: Program something w3d [message #438324 is a reply to message #437977] |
Tue, 26 October 2010 03:56 |
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reborn
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We had our first entry yesterday from Roshambo AKA jnz!
He released his LUA plugin version 5 bundled with a bot made in entirely in LUA, called YaLB! Very kick-ass!
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| Re: Program something w3d [message #438326 is a reply to message #438066] |
Tue, 26 October 2010 06:50 |
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halo2pac
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| reborn wrote on Sat, 16 October 2010 06:33 |
The submission must not already be previously released or in the public domain already.
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I'm confused. Roshambo released v5 many months ago. As well as yalb. I thought we can only release new versions/products... Hence why I am totally redoing renebuddy and making it better as a new version 2.
| halo2pac wrote on Sun, 17 October 2010 11:13 |
But you also said in the rules it had to be unreleased.
And Rene-Buddy is released.
But on the other hand I was redoing it in a different language... and naming it Rene-Buddy 2.
If that's expectable I'm good.
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| reborn wrote on Sun, 17 October 2010 23:55 |
Sounds like a plan to me!
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Btw I wrote this on an itouch. You try to acomplish that in under 10 minutes
Rene-Buddy | Renegade X
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