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| Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436651 is a reply to message #435678] |
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JohnDoe
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how do you climb up leagues? ive been getting the hang of mp starcraft lately and am 9-1 in my last 10 against higher ranked opponents. "even match" seems like another word for top 20 silver and "slightly favored" means gold league even though I'm 3rd place bronze..it's gonna take a while to become #1 as the other guys have had much more games than me. what's the point in being ranked as bronze when the game doesn't put me up against other bronze players anyway?
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| Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436652 is a reply to message #436651] |
Thu, 16 September 2010 10:03 |
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| JohnDoe wrote on Thu, 16 September 2010 09:56 |
how do you climb up leagues? ive been getting the hang of mp starcraft lately and am 9-1 in my last 10 against higher ranked opponents. "even match" seems like another word for top 20 silver and "slightly favored" means gold league even though I'm 3rd place bronze..it's gonna take a while to become #1 as the other guys have had much more games than me. what's the point in being ranked as bronze when the game doesn't put me up against other bronze players anyway?
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Give it time. The system was faster-acting during the beta but people felt it was too easy to get into Diamond, etc, so they slowed it down quite a bit since launch. Promotions still occur, just at a much slower pace.
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
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| Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436787 is a reply to message #436618] |
Mon, 20 September 2010 12:37 |
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| JohnDoe wrote on Wed, 15 September 2010 03:55 |
you will be really pissed off at what bw makes you do
you can win every toss mission by just massing carriers...its kinda funny that I picked them for multiplayer after being a cheap tard like that in sc&bw.
you really want to get good comfortable with zerg because there are two very, very hard missions in bw (much harder than the starcraft finale). finish the 2nd to last bw mission with over 5(?) minutes left on the clock for a bonus mission that's the backdrop for what will happen in sc2.
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gotcha...the hardest mission so far in SC for me was the last Terran mission. It made me rage so much but I eventually managed to beat it 2 times just to make sure.
I found the Zerg missions to be pretty easy...most of the later missions I just built pesky Mutalisks and those Guardians and went all over the map. The Guardians have more range than the Photon Cannon wtf so these are really dangerous things.
So far the Protoss missions are the ones I am really enjoying the most. I guess it's because you can't really mass them like you can Marines and Zerglings. So I have to manage a smaller attack force and get a few important upgrades.
Anyway, I got the hang of the Templars right now. I think the key is to learn the Hot Keys for important time saving functions or else one can never play the game right. So that way the Templars are so efficient to use. I am now on Mission 6 going through the installation to find Zeratul.
Still looking forward to use those carriers!
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btw, I found this classic Battle.net site that's so awesome full of tips!
http://classic.battle.net/scc/
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| Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436811 is a reply to message #435678] |
Tue, 21 September 2010 02:24 |
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Mission 7 of the Protoss missions? It's one of the generic PvPs. Either right before or right after Tassadar lets himself get captured. The missions kind of blur at around that point because nothing really important happens until like the 9th one.
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
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| Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436812 is a reply to message #435678] |
Tue, 21 September 2010 02:36 |
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I never understood why he surrenders himself and then seems cool with you freeing him the next mission. Mission 7 is the 2nd hardest in Starcraft imo...I'm sure I could beat it differently now, but I pretty much cannonrushed the map back then.
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| Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436825 is a reply to message #436817] |
Tue, 21 September 2010 07:45 |
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Damn that mission was hard! Just beat it now. I built Scouts, Archons, Dragoons and Zealots and went right for the Nexus. I used Reavers to take out the Photon Cannons but they got destroyed after that.
I tell you what that Arbiter is one of the most annoying bastard units in all of RTS games. Jeez, more than half my units were in stasis!
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| Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436843 is a reply to message #435678] |
Tue, 21 September 2010 16:30 |
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In most PvP situations you can just win by making gateway units, boxing them, and A-moving into your opponent's shit, but yeah, Arbiters are a bitch. Defilers too, but They've not as bad in PvZ as they are in TvZ. Defilers in TvZ make me hate everyone and everything.
Reavers are an amazing awesome kick-ass unit, Starbuzz, but they absolutely 100% need a shuttle with them to carry their fat asses around, and it helps to have them supporting your army as opposed to doing some kind of cute solo-attack (Unless you're dropping worker lines in multiplayer or something, and even then you either need to get your reaver out alive or kill like 30 SCVs for it to be worth it). However, all that loading/unloading/positioning makes them a pretty APM-intensive unit to use effectively, especially compared to the 1A2A3A warriors that comprise the rest of the Protoss arsenal.
I never really understood why Tassadar was so wishy-washy in his martydom to the conclave either. We can only guess what kind of horrific Protoss torture he was submited to during his stay.
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| Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436851 is a reply to message #436843] |
Tue, 21 September 2010 19:57 |
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lol I had to look up "1A2A3A" and took me to a thread at teamliquid. 
The Reaver is a nightmare whenever I see it so far. It's is still a mysterious unit to me since I haven't used it as much. In Mission 7 they just come in groups and can eat right thru your base. And the Scouts are the ones I have to stop them but unfortunately as you said earlier their suckage ground guns are not so effective and the Reavers always inflict great damage before getting destroyed. So I can just imagine what a gamechanger a proper so-called Reaver Drops will be...
I am on Mission 9 now. And I had to change my mind lol. I think the most annoying bastard units are the defilers!
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| Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436860 is a reply to message #435678] |
Wed, 22 September 2010 01:20 |
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Sorry, I thought 1a2a3a was pretty self-explanitory. People tend to have their armies hotkeyed on 1-3 or 1-4 and their production buildings on 5+. And "a" is obviously the attack hotkey...
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
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| Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #437502 is a reply to message #436861] |
Tue, 05 October 2010 16:46 |
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so finally had the time to play the last SC mission...built Carriers and battle cruisers and gunned for the overmind from the left side!
Now installing BW...can't wait to use the Medics!
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It was a bit sad about Tassadar though. Seems to get in trouble all the time!
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| Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #437555 is a reply to message #437502] |
Thu, 07 October 2010 14:49 |
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| Starbuzzz wrote on Tue, 05 October 2010 16:46 |
so finally had the time to play the last SC mission...built Carriers and battle cruisers and gunned for the overmind from the left side!
Now installing BW...can't wait to use the Medics!
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It was a bit sad about Tassadar though. Seems to get in trouble all the time!
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You'd think it would be more obvious with the dragoons around and that whole Fenix thing, but no Protoss ever really dies. In fact, there's a theory cirulating that Tassadar is some kind of Jesus figure that gets reborn every time the Protoss race is in some kind of serious trouble, and that he and Kalas and Adun (If you read the little backstory in the manual) are all the same person.
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| Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #437883 is a reply to message #437847] |
Thu, 14 October 2010 08:29 |
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| JohnDoe wrote on Wed, 13 October 2010 11:13 |
Na, terrans just crashlanded like 100 years ago. I'm guessing units like ze valkyrie are supposed to make them a little different / advanced.
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Ah I see. I read on one of the SC wiki pages that the crashlanders got most of the plans from the ATLAS computers. This makes more sense now!
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| Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #437888 is a reply to message #437887] |
Thu, 14 October 2010 11:40 |
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| JohnDoe wrote on Thu, 14 October 2010 13:12 |
my usb stick version doesnt have the manual...heard its mostly useless information about shit like the different broods, squadrons, etc
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pretty much. It's more of the lore and nerdy stuff for players who like that type of stuff. The backstory is worth reading especially about the Terrans and Protoss.
eitherway, I can say Blizzard put a lot of effort into the manual too! You can get a pdf version here if you want:
http://www.replacementdocs.com/download.php?view.2104
edit: and yes about the Valkyrie and Medics; that was UED stuff the Terrans didn't have before.
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