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Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436175 is a reply to message #436174] Mon, 06 September 2010 15:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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JohnDoe wrote on Mon, 06 September 2010 22:35

stupid mac doesnt let me make a windows partition


Ren might run under CrossOver (is that right?) fairly well. Apple like making things run quickly and with shinies. So much shinies.


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Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436305 is a reply to message #435678] Thu, 09 September 2010 10:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436313 is a reply to message #436305] Thu, 09 September 2010 16:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Herr Surth wrote on Thu, 09 September 2010 10:24

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Is the joke supposed to be how wrong this is? Because that picture is so grossly incorrect it's almost humorous. Almost.

Immortal Colossus destroys Marine Marauder so badly. Marauders are pretty horrible against Muta Zergling. Nobody uses Roach Hydra because it's awful against everything. Broodlords and Ultras both do nasty nasty things to terran barracks units. High templar are just about the best thing to use against massed marines and mauders -- I can't think of anything I'd rather have. I'm pretty sure any units produced before 20 minutes into the game beats Carrier Mothership.

Except for siege tanks beating marines (Not sure what help Vikings are supposed to provide in that situation...), that chart got everything pretty much exactly backwards. The pity is that the crying over supposed Terran imbalance is loud enough that people actually believe this trash. >:[


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Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436314 is a reply to message #435678] Thu, 09 September 2010 17:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have only seen Carriers used once.













Practice league, home of the unstoppable mothership/void ray combo.



Whats your rank, dover? I'm reppin 7th place bronze league and climbing


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Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436319 is a reply to message #436314] Thu, 09 September 2010 19:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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JohnDoe wrote on Thu, 09 September 2010 17:21

I have only seen Carriers used once.













Practice league, home of the unstoppable mothership/void ray combo.



Whats your rank, dover? I'm reppin 7th place bronze league and climbing


95th Plat or something like that, but I've only done my initial 5 placement matches (5-0), so that's not very indicative.

I went 5-0 in both phases on the beta too, and each time I got placed into Diamond (Or Plat, back where there was no Diamond), but I'm pretty sure they fucked with the ratios in the leagues after launch so you can't place directly into Diamond anymore.

Practice League was actually a ton of fun, because rocks are no protection from reapers, and I would (and still do) open with some form of reaper opening pretty much every game. The false sense of security in the practice league leaves the backdoor open for my penal system.


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Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436332 is a reply to message #435678] Fri, 10 September 2010 02:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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u dont like the game? thought you were the resident sc2 fanatic

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Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436345 is a reply to message #436332] Fri, 10 September 2010 15:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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JohnDoe wrote on Fri, 10 September 2010 02:07

u dont like the game? thought you were the resident sc2 fanatic


I love the game. Just hard to find time for it now that my classes have started up again, and when I do find time for it, I just do customs or get a few more campaign achievements or something. And my SC2 time gets split between playing and watching, now that the GSL is up I've been staying up till like 5-6am almost every night to watch Korean nerds battle it out, which means less time for other things.

That, and I'm trying to keep up with DotA too. :/


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Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436349 is a reply to message #436345] Fri, 10 September 2010 17:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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just finished the Zerg campaign for SC1 for the first time and playing through the Protoss missions! I am on Mission 3 now kekekkekekeee

Scouts are AWESOME


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Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436352 is a reply to message #436349] Fri, 10 September 2010 20:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Starbuzzz wrote on Fri, 10 September 2010 17:41

just finished the Zerg campaign for SC1 for the first time and playing through the Protoss missions! I am on Mission 3 now kekekkekekeee

Scouts are AWESOME


In the single player they are, yeah. In multiplayer it's sort of hard to justify their cost for the pitiful anti-ground damage they do, and (when you get to them) corsairs do just as well vs air for cheaper.


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Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436355 is a reply to message #435678] Fri, 10 September 2010 23:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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starcraft 1.5

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Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436356 is a reply to message #436355] Fri, 10 September 2010 23:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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raven wrote on Fri, 10 September 2010 23:30

starcraft 1.5

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Sounds like someone is upset about being 0-30 in bronze.


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Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436359 is a reply to message #436356] Fri, 10 September 2010 23:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dover wrote on Sat, 11 September 2010 01:33

raven wrote on Fri, 10 September 2010 23:30

starcraft 1.5

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Sounds like someone is upset about being 0-30 in bronze.


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Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436371 is a reply to message #436352] Sat, 11 September 2010 08:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dover wrote on Fri, 10 September 2010 22:56

Starbuzzz wrote on Fri, 10 September 2010 17:41

just finished the Zerg campaign for SC1 for the first time and playing through the Protoss missions! I am on Mission 3 now kekekkekekeee

Scouts are AWESOME


In the single player they are, yeah. In multiplayer it's sort of hard to justify their cost for the pitiful anti-ground damage they do, and (when you get to them) corsairs do just as well vs air for cheaper.


Yeah, they are so expensive and their gun vs ground is weak. On Mission 3, I can only research level 1 weapon upgrade and this somewhat noticiably improves the gun against zerglings and hydras. I wonder if it will be better with level 3 upgrade.

I haven't yet seen the Corsair; I am assuming it's in BW. Looking forward to playing it too after this campaign is over!


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Dover, can you please tell me how the Shield Battery building works? I built it and from what I understand it recharges the shields quickly. But how? Am I supposed to bring my units closer to it? I duon't know how it works!


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Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436392 is a reply to message #436371] Sat, 11 September 2010 12:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Starbuzzz wrote on Sat, 11 September 2010 08:08

Dover wrote on Fri, 10 September 2010 22:56

Starbuzzz wrote on Fri, 10 September 2010 17:41

just finished the Zerg campaign for SC1 for the first time and playing through the Protoss missions! I am on Mission 3 now kekekkekekeee

Scouts are AWESOME


In the single player they are, yeah. In multiplayer it's sort of hard to justify their cost for the pitiful anti-ground damage they do, and (when you get to them) corsairs do just as well vs air for cheaper.


Yeah, they are so expensive and their gun vs ground is weak. On Mission 3, I can only research level 1 weapon upgrade and this somewhat noticiably improves the gun against zerglings and hydras. I wonder if it will be better with level 3 upgrade.

I haven't yet seen the Corsair; I am assuming it's in BW. Looking forward to playing it too after this campaign is over!


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Dover, can you please tell me how the Shield Battery building works? I built it and from what I understand it recharges the shields quickly. But how? Am I supposed to bring my units closer to it? I duon't know how it works!


Corsairs are BW, yeah.

To use the shield battery, either select it and "use" it's ability on any unit that has taken shield damage, or take any damaged unit and right-click on the shield battery. They can only restore shields up until their energy reserves run out, so if you're going to be using them a lot (Like if you have a large active air force), you'll probably want to build several.


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Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436423 is a reply to message #436392] Sat, 11 September 2010 15:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dover wrote on Sat, 11 September 2010 14:36



Corsairs are BW, yeah.

To use the shield battery, either select it and "use" it's ability on any unit that has taken shield damage, or take any damaged unit and right-click on the shield battery. They can only restore shields up until their energy reserves run out, so if you're going to be using them a lot (Like if you have a large active air force), you'll probably want to build several.


ah, I see. I will try it later today. Thanks for the explanation!


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Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436594 is a reply to message #436423] Tue, 14 September 2010 18:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Any tips on how to use the Templars? I am trying to select and then use their Storm on waves of Zerg but I always end up hurting my own units AND the Templar!

btw, I can't wait to use the Carriers for the first time!

jeez, the last time a RTS game had me so excited was RA2 whoch I played from 2004 to 2007 non-stop everyday. SC is a gem...moreso for me because I prefer the old graphics.


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Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436595 is a reply to message #435678] Tue, 14 September 2010 18:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Psi storm is an ability that creates a wave of psionic energies that damage units in a wide area. Try to use it near the front of an opposing massed attack force. If you put it near the middle, most of the units will run out of the storm before taking much damage. Further more, using melee units such as Zealots might be a bad idea, as friendly fire occurs with Psi storm, use Dragoons or something.

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Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436598 is a reply to message #436594] Tue, 14 September 2010 20:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Starbuzzz wrote on Tue, 14 September 2010 18:01

Any tips on how to use the Templars? I am trying to select and then use their Storm on waves of Zerg but I always end up hurting my own units AND the Templar!

btw, I can't wait to use the Carriers for the first time!

jeez, the last time a RTS game had me so excited was RA2 whoch I played from 2004 to 2007 non-stop everyday. SC is a gem...moreso for me because I prefer the old graphics.


You're best off using it against enemy ranged attackers, since the chances of hurting your own troops is pretty minimal. There are exceptions, of course, like if you have a ton of zerglings bottlenecked or something, but for the most part, it's easiest to target enemy ranged units that have stopped moving. Otherwise, you need to try and predict their movements to some extent.

They also have their uses against immobile units, like Sieged tanks or (when you get to them) Lurkers. Not being able to leave the AoE means they take the full 122 (Or something like that) damage.

Psi Storm is the the bane of mass-hydra busts in PvZ multiplayer, and is one of several reasons why a Terran player can never ever ever go Medic/Marine against Protoss.


Glad you're enjoying the game. It really picks up with Broodwar. :]


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Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436603 is a reply to message #436598] Tue, 14 September 2010 21:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gotcha...thanks again both!

I kinda got the hang of it now by not using Zealots along with Templars. And I got the Templar going slightly on the front of the main attack group. Works out well...I replayed Mission 4 right now and it's great stuff. Yeah, with sudden rush of Zerglings in a tight space, it's worth it.

Never knew the Psi Storm can attack mechanical units! Against Siege Tanks? lol nice. I thought it was only against organic units. Good to know.

As for the Marine/Medic, I can't wait to try that in BW once I play that. I am guessing it will work quiet well against Zerg bases but yeah, Protoss buildings and their shields are incredibly strong.

The storyline is incredibly good too. It's so well plotted and thick that my first Terran mission a month ago seem like years ago lol. For now, I am still a bit pissed off that Fenix is dead.


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Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436618 is a reply to message #435678] Wed, 15 September 2010 01:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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you will be really pissed off at what bw makes you do

you can win every toss mission by just massing carriers...its kinda funny that I picked them for multiplayer after being a cheap tard like that in sc&bw.

you really want to get good comfortable with zerg because there are two very, very hard missions in bw (much harder than the starcraft finale). finish the 2nd to last bw mission with over 5(?) minutes left on the clock for a bonus mission that's the backdrop for what will happen in sc2.


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Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436623 is a reply to message #435678] Wed, 15 September 2010 08:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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remember that protoss shields take full damage from every damage type in sc:bw. Wink
Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436626 is a reply to message #436603] Wed, 15 September 2010 13:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Starbuzzz wrote on Tue, 14 September 2010 21:50

gotcha...thanks again both!

I kinda got the hang of it now by not using Zealots along with Templars. And I got the Templar going slightly on the front of the main attack group. Works out well...I replayed Mission 4 right now and it's great stuff. Yeah, with sudden rush of Zerglings in a tight space, it's worth it.

Never knew the Psi Storm can attack mechanical units! Against Siege Tanks? lol nice. I thought it was only against organic units. Good to know.

As for the Marine/Medic, I can't wait to try that in BW once I play that. I am guessing it will work quiet well against Zerg bases but yeah, Protoss buildings and their shields are incredibly strong.

The storyline is incredibly good too. It's so well plotted and thick that my first Terran mission a month ago seem like years ago lol. For now, I am still a bit pissed off that Fenix is dead.


Medic/Marine just doesn't work well against Protoss because there are any number of things they can do to completely ruin your day. DTs and Reavers both bascally one-shot marines (The latter one-shotting entire squads), and Psi Storm and Maestorm also ruin their day.

As for Fenix, once you get far enough into the story you'll learn that
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Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436627 is a reply to message #435678] Wed, 15 September 2010 14:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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its a shameful existance...the sc2 immortals seems prouder tho...wtf is up with stalkers? are they flesh and bone or is that a archon type deal

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Re: Epic StarCraft II Discussion [message #436632 is a reply to message #436627] Wed, 15 September 2010 19:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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JohnDoe wrote on Wed, 15 September 2010 14:49

its a shameful existance...the sc2 immortals seems prouder tho...wtf is up with stalkers? are they flesh and bone or is that a archon type deal


They're former Dark Templar that get Dragoonified. Or are they still alive and just in the suit thing? I don't know.


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