|
|
|
|
| Re: Westwood lives on [message #435379 is a reply to message #435370] |
Tue, 24 August 2010 00:19   |
 |
reborn
Messages: 3231
Registered: September 2004
Location: uk - london
Karma: 0
|
General (3 Stars) |
|
|
I saw it a few days ago, the whole "Co-operate & Conquer" was not lossed on me. However, I liked the story and movie sequences more than anyting in CnC, I'm not really a massive RTS fan in all honesty.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Re: Westwood lives on [message #435389 is a reply to message #435379] |
Tue, 24 August 2010 04:05 |
 |
JohnDoe
Messages: 1416
Registered: May 2006
Karma: 0
|
General (1 Star) |
|
|
| reborn wrote on Tue, 24 August 2010 02:19 |
However, I liked the story and movie sequences more than anyting in CnC
|
Ya, I thought they were pretty cool until I was like 12..
This looks like the game to play if you hate everything about Starcraft.
lol
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Re: Westwood lives on [message #435403 is a reply to message #435393] |
Tue, 24 August 2010 08:23 |
 |
R315r4z0r
Messages: 3836
Registered: March 2005
Location: New York
Karma: 0
|
General (3 Stars) |
|
|
| nopol10 wrote on Tue, 24 August 2010 08:31 |
Looks like a larger scale C&C 4 just by looking at the video on the site.
|
That's just what I thought. I also thought it looked a lot like Generals.
I'd be more interested in this if Petroglyph didn't suck so much.
[Updated on: Tue, 24 August 2010 16:28] Report message to a moderator |
|
|
|
| Re: Westwood lives on [message #435413 is a reply to message #435370] |
Tue, 24 August 2010 11:39 |
 |
[NE]Fobby[GEN]
Messages: 1377
Registered: July 2004
Location: Canada
Karma: 0
|
General (1 Star) |
|
|
It looks okay, though a couple issues. Personally, I'm not an MMO fan, and the game looks a lot like C&C4 on a much larger scale and long term. Actually I barely play RTS online either, the only one I did play online avidly was Starcraft back in the late 90s.
I prefer singleplayer RTS over multiplayer, because it seems like most of the people playing online in any RTS game are the avid, day-to-day players who are experts at a game. So to the average gamer or even average hardcore gamer who only plays RTS from time to time, you'll essentially get your ass kicked by most people online simply because they play a lot more than you do, work faster, know all the tricks, etc.
Also, the previous Petroglyph games weren't too good. Their comparison to Westwood is also pretty generous, the main body of Westwood and classical C&C staff are in other companies like Jetset Games. There's a lot of former Westwood guys at Petroglyph, but I don't think their games can even compare to everything from C&C 95 to C&C Renegade.
Unreal Tournament 3 Total Conversion to C&C: Renegade
Check out Renegade X Today!
Mod Wars Veteran
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Re: Westwood lives on [message #435486 is a reply to message #435370] |
Wed, 25 August 2010 12:57 |
 |
trooprm02
Messages: 3266
Registered: August 2005
Location: Canada
Karma: 0
|
General (3 Stars) |
|
|
Since C&C 4, I've really given up on a C&C themed FPS so now ill settle for ANY game with:
1)2 totally different sides
2)an AOW mode (destroy each other base for points with infantry/vehicles)
It doesn't even need to have a story line that makes sense...If a game with those 2 simple requirements was ever released, I'd buy 3 copies of it immediately.
My: Videos/Website/Forums
[Updated on: Wed, 25 August 2010 12:58] Report message to a moderator |
|
|
|
| Re: Westwood lives on [message #435488 is a reply to message #435486] |
Wed, 25 August 2010 14:13 |
 |
GEORGE ZIMMER
Messages: 2605
Registered: March 2006
Karma: 0
|
General (2 Stars) |
|
|
| trooprm02 wrote on Wed, 25 August 2010 14:57 |
Since C&C 4, I've really given up on a C&C themed FPS so now ill settle for ANY game with:
1)2 totally different sides
2)an AOW mode (destroy each other base for points with infantry/vehicles)
It doesn't even need to have a story line that makes sense...If a game with those 2 simple requirements was ever released, I'd buy 3 copies of it immediately.
|
Pretty much the same here. I'd love a game that has tanks and such with base destruction, decent infantry battles, but isn't over the top with realism.
I've given up any hope of EA releasing such a thing, so...
Toggle Spoiler| Scrin wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 13:22 |
| cAmpa wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 12:45 |
Scrin, stop pming people to get the building bars.
|
FUCK YOU AND THIS SHIT GAME WITH YOUR SCRIPTS!!! I HAVE ASKING YOU AND ANOTHER NOOBS HERE ABOUT HELP WITH THAT BUILDING ICONS FEATURES FOR YEARS, BUT YOU KEEP IGNORING ME AND KEEP WRITE SHIT, SO BURN YOU AND YOUR ASSLICKERS FRIENDS, THIS TIME I'M NOT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!   
|
|
|
|
|
| Re: Westwood lives on [message #435513 is a reply to message #435370] |
Wed, 25 August 2010 21:10 |
 |
Dover
Messages: 2547
Registered: March 2006
Location: Monterey, California
Karma: 0
|
General (2 Stars) |
|
|
Looks pretty bad. :/
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
Remember kids the internet is serious business.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Re: Westwood lives on [message #435518 is a reply to message #435515] |
Thu, 26 August 2010 00:08 |
|
Dover
Messages: 2547
Registered: March 2006
Location: Monterey, California
Karma: 0
|
General (2 Stars) |
|
|
| liquidv2 wrote on Wed, 25 August 2010 21:25 |
stop talking about your filthy neckbeard
|
umad?
If it requires less than 30 actions per minute, you can't call it an RTS.
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
Remember kids the internet is serious business.
|
|
|
|
|
| Re: Westwood lives on [message #435572 is a reply to message #435518] |
Thu, 26 August 2010 14:16 |
|
GEORGE ZIMMER
Messages: 2605
Registered: March 2006
Karma: 0
|
General (2 Stars) |
|
|
| Dover wrote on Thu, 26 August 2010 02:08 |
herp derp scrubs don't know how to RTS hurrr starcraft derp derp
|
Really now. Don't get me wrong, Starcraft is great, but it can be an RTS without requiring to be a Korean to play it...
Toggle Spoiler| Scrin wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 13:22 |
| cAmpa wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 12:45 |
Scrin, stop pming people to get the building bars.
|
FUCK YOU AND THIS SHIT GAME WITH YOUR SCRIPTS!!! I HAVE ASKING YOU AND ANOTHER NOOBS HERE ABOUT HELP WITH THAT BUILDING ICONS FEATURES FOR YEARS, BUT YOU KEEP IGNORING ME AND KEEP WRITE SHIT, SO BURN YOU AND YOUR ASSLICKERS FRIENDS, THIS TIME I'M NOT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Re: Westwood lives on [message #435580 is a reply to message #435572] |
Thu, 26 August 2010 16:00 |
|
Dover
Messages: 2547
Registered: March 2006
Location: Monterey, California
Karma: 0
|
General (2 Stars) |
|
|
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Thu, 26 August 2010 14:16 |
| Dover wrote on Thu, 26 August 2010 02:08 |
herp derp scrubs don't know how to RTS hurrr starcraft derp derp
|
Really now. Don't get me wrong, Starcraft is great, but it can be an RTS without requiring to be a Korean to play it...
|
People like to pretend that Koreans are somehow naturally more gifted at StarCraft than Westerners, that the advantage is somehow genetic or something, when the only difference is that Koreans are willing to put in the work ethic to improve whatever it is they're doing (For the record, China is a close second). And it's not even that big of a deal. In my post above I mentioned 30 APM, and that's laughably low; An 80 year old with arthritis could manage that with a little bit of practice. Just because the game happens to not be turn based doesn't mean it's "real time" strategy. Not unless there's something making you take action and strategize most of the time. There's where the Real Time and Strategy come together to form Real Time Strategy.
Take Sins of a Solar Empire. It's a fine game, lots of fun. It's definately a strategy game, and it happens to take place in real time, but the pacing is just so slow that anybody who's played it would be hesitant to call it an RTS. It's more Master of Orion without turns.
But to address what you're implying; If any top-level StarCraft player (Korean or othewise) was to get ahold of this game, or some other shitpile like Red Alert 3, they'd turn the game inside out within a month, if that. There's a reason why, for all intents and purposes, the StarCraft community IS the RTS community, and there's a reason why the communities for other games get abandoned as soon as the next shitty iteration is relesed.
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
Remember kids the internet is serious business.
|
[Updated on: Thu, 26 August 2010 16:06] Report message to a moderator |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Re: Westwood lives on [message #435673 is a reply to message #435605] |
Fri, 27 August 2010 13:46 |
|
Dover
Messages: 2547
Registered: March 2006
Location: Monterey, California
Karma: 0
|
General (2 Stars) |
|
|
| JohnDoe wrote on Fri, 27 August 2010 00:14 |
can guys like idra hang with the top koreans?
|
SC2, sure. Broodwar, not really. But that's more of an issue of talent. IdrA isn't all that good (Even though he's better than I could hope to be lol), he's just consistant.
| CarrierII wrote on Fri, 27 August 2010 01:45 |
Yes Dover, but when I go for a recreational drive, I don't use a fucking F1 car, I drive at normal speeds. Exactly the same principle with RTS games...
|
They have Turn Based Strategy games and games of other genres for that. To continue your analogy, RTS games are F1 cars, and to drive them at normal speeds (Or to have one that can only drive normal speeds) is retarded. If you want to drive slow, don't buy an F1 car.
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
Remember kids the internet is serious business.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Search
Help
Members
Register
Login
Home
