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Re: Long Downtime Tonight [message #434105 is a reply to message #433888] Mon, 02 August 2010 01:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The url's are no ip's but DNS's. If they got access to the DNS's to redirect xwis, they could surely get access to the DNS's to redirect those links.

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Re: Long Downtime Tonight [message #434110 is a reply to message #433888] Mon, 02 August 2010 04:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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UPDATE and sorry for double post: Xwis is back now.

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Re: Long Downtime Tonight [message #434114 is a reply to message #433888] Mon, 02 August 2010 04:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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F*** yeah! now i can go play ren instead of Command & Fail 4 toyberium toylight

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Re: Long Downtime Tonight [message #434460 is a reply to message #434098] Tue, 10 August 2010 02:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Mon, 02 August 2010 08:34

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How much downtime did WOL have? How much does XWIS have?
What URLs do those buttons use? What URL does not exist?

I'm not going to get backup webspace or change DNS for the few times XWIS is down.
Re: Long Downtime Tonight [message #434463 is a reply to message #434460] Tue, 10 August 2010 02:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Olaf van der Spek wrote on Tue, 10 August 2010 11:18

Goztow wrote on Mon, 02 August 2010 08:34

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How much does XWIS have?

I'm sure you're the only person who could possibly have statistics on that, but I doubt you do as you aren't that professional.

Sure WOL knew some downtime but I cannot personally remember it being down for days. The comparison shouldn't really be made: if you're in charge of a project you should always aim to make it better than the previous one. The available resources in 2010 should also be better than those in 2003 or even 2006.

A spare webspace costs virtually nothing, we're really talking about maximum a few tens of euros per year. Changing a DNS takes about 2 minutes if you know what you're doing.

I can't check the url's right now, but they're in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Westwood\Renegade\WOLSettings\URL . I'll add them tonight.


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Re: Long Downtime Tonight [message #434464 is a reply to message #434463] Tue, 10 August 2010 02:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Tue, 10 August 2010 11:40


I'm sure you're the only person who could possibly have statistics on that, but I doubt you do as you aren't that professional.


Eh? Why am I the only one that could have stats?
The recent downtime was long, too long, and only due to a silly mistake on my side.
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Sure WOL knew some downtime but I cannot personally remember it being down for days.


Aren't you the one that made the comparison? It has been down for much longer than days and certain services, like TS/RA2 ladders, have been 'down' for months/years.
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Changing a DNS takes about 2 minutes if you know what you're doing.


Propagation is rarely that fast.

Re: Long Downtime Tonight [message #434470 is a reply to message #434464] Tue, 10 August 2010 04:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Olaf van der Spek wrote on Tue, 10 August 2010 11:52

Goztow wrote on Tue, 10 August 2010 11:40


I'm sure you're the only person who could possibly have statistics on that, but I doubt you do as you aren't that professional.


Eh? Why am I the only one that could have stats?
The recent downtime was long, too long, and only due to a silly mistake on my side.


Because you are running the thing?

Olaf van der Spek wrote on Tue, 10 August 2010 11:52


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Sure WOL knew some downtime but I cannot personally remember it being down for days.


Aren't you the one that made the comparison? It has been down for much longer than days and certain services, like TS/RA2 ladders, have been 'down' for months/years.


I made a suggestion.

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Changing a DNS takes about 2 minutes if you know what you're doing.


Propagation is rarely that fast.
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Doesn't take 3 days either.


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Re: Long Downtime Tonight [message #434473 is a reply to message #434470] Tue, 10 August 2010 05:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Tue, 10 August 2010 13:47


Because you are running the thing?


Familiar with remote (service) monitoring? You don't need to run something to be able to monitor it's status.
Re: Long Downtime Tonight [message #434475 is a reply to message #434473] Tue, 10 August 2010 05:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Olaf van der Spek wrote on Tue, 10 August 2010 14:18

Goztow wrote on Tue, 10 August 2010 13:47


Because you are running the thing?


Familiar with remote (service) monitoring? You don't need to run something to be able to monitor it's status.

Let me reformulate: I don't see why anyone except the one running it would have figured it would be nice / needed to record downtime. I don't think anyone actually figured you wouldn't do it.

Also: nice to see you ignore the most important (in my eyes) points of my suggestions.


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Re: Long Downtime Tonight [message #434476 is a reply to message #434475] Tue, 10 August 2010 05:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Tue, 10 August 2010 14:47

Also: nice to see you ignore the most important (in my eyes) points of my suggestions.

I'm glad you like it.

Which one would that be?
Re: Long Downtime Tonight [message #434477 is a reply to message #433888] Tue, 10 August 2010 06:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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undelete all automatically deleted nicknames or at least allow us to register them again. That was one piece of über fail as well. A nick isn't used for x weeks? Let's trash it and make it impossible to register them again! And before you make such stupid decisions, discuss them with the community that'll suffer from them.

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Get rid of the MOTD telling you to register your serials on a non existing url. It makes you look stupid. get it back to "For all info: www.renegadeforums.com , for clanwars: www.clanwars.cc".


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Re: Long Downtime Tonight [message #434478 is a reply to message #434477] Tue, 10 August 2010 06:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What URL does not exist?

Why is it all those suggestions use such a whiny tone? Do you think that's the most likely way anything will get done?
Re: Long Downtime Tonight [message #434479 is a reply to message #433888] Tue, 10 August 2010 06:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Olaf, Goztow is very passionate about this game, as are most of us here. Please, you have to understand that he is just concerned for the game and doesn't want to disuade any potential player from joining, or losing an existing player due to technical reasons.
I'm sure he doesn't desire to be annoying. All you have to do is look at his involvmenet in the community to see that he's just acting out of a love for the game.
Most of us long for you to be more a part of the renegade community and interact with us.

Goztow, Olaf provides a service that would likely be dis-continued by now if left to EA. We're fortunate that Olaf was able to get EA to forward control to his server's, and that he voluntarily maintains the service.

We all have very common interests.



Re: Long Downtime Tonight [message #434480 is a reply to message #433888] Tue, 10 August 2010 06:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The URL has been created since, and seems to be operational. So I'll give you that one Smile.

Reborn is right. I regret that we only get to communicate in such inefficient ways, and only when problems arise. I have no bad feelings towards you, as a person.


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Re: Long Downtime Tonight [message #434481 is a reply to message #434480] Tue, 10 August 2010 06:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Then why don't you use other ways?
Re: Long Downtime Tonight [message #434482 is a reply to message #434481] Tue, 10 August 2010 06:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Olaf van der Spek wrote on Tue, 10 August 2010 15:27

Then why don't you use other ways?

Sure. Add me on MSN: go_stuff@vt4.net I'll make sure I'm on tonight. If you prefer another method, then let me know and I'll PM you my details (email, teamspeak, ...).


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Re: Long Downtime Tonight [message #435765 is a reply to message #434482] Sat, 28 August 2010 17:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Olaf!

First off, thanks a lot for your help in maintaining XWIS! I think you are doing a good job!

I have one main suggestion but I am not sure if it can be fixed or not. There is this issue with !qkicks that moderators make in the servers. However, I am told a XWIS "bug" makes it treat the qkick as a ban. In a !qkick, the player just got kicked from the server but is able to rejoin immediately in the same nickname.

However, this glitch makes it a ban and so the player is unable to use the kicked nickname for 12 hours atleast. Is there a way to fix this issue? Is it in your hands?

The temporary fix is to use direct connect but some players don't prefer it.

Any info on this will would great!

thanks!
Re: Long Downtime Tonight [message #435843 is a reply to message #433888] Mon, 30 August 2010 09:13 Go to previous message
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Have someone with experience analyse the bug and then get back to me with details if it's indeed a bug in XWIS.
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