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| Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #432949 is a reply to message #432936] |
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luv2pb
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Not everything is as it appears
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How do you figure? When I buy something I have two choices. Either I have to go out and buy it. Something that has all the draw backs of any commercialized shopping outing. Nothing says easy like traffic, lines and stupid people just to find out they don't have any in stock. Or I can get it online which means I get to wait a week for it assuming the order actually goes through. All so that I can line someones pockets with their over priced item.
On the other side I can simply sit at my computer, fire up that torrent and come back to it in a little while. Keeping my money where it belongs - in my pocket.
The TV industry is smart. They have embraced the internet and found a way to make it work for them and the users. The music industry is just stupid and the movie industry is kinda there but has the edge that people are willing to pay for the quality video.
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| Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #432975 is a reply to message #432973] |
Sat, 17 July 2010 13:53 |
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nikki6ixx
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| Ziggy Sobotka wrote on Sat, 17 July 2010 15:46 |
do you honestly buy all of your music? as in, really?
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Sure, but it's not all new stuff. A lot of my LP's and cassettes that I've transferred to my PC are second hand. So there's probably a big fat elephant in the room here, and that is that I haven't directly supported plenty of artists.
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56 |
The only game where everyone competes to be an e-janitor.
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| Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #433016 is a reply to message #432972] |
Sat, 17 July 2010 23:10 |
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luv2pb
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Not everything is as it appears
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| nikki6ixx wrote on Sat, 17 July 2010 15:43 |
Credit card + Zune Marketplace = Pretty easy. Or wait a week to get something super obscure from eBay. I guess I'm just a patient guy.
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I will give you buying music is fairly easy if you ignore the whole restrictions depending on who you buy from thing.
I don't know why you guys are having this discussion. Prince has already informed us the internet is dead!
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| Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #433031 is a reply to message #433029] |
Sun, 18 July 2010 02:58 |
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| CarrierII wrote on Sun, 18 July 2010 09:52 |
I read that, I lol'd.
Amazon.co.uk, and you're done. (tm).
DRM free, insta download at 70p (approx $0.45) per song?
Win.
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If i had an Iphone, i would of just bought the songs from Itunes for just 99p (whats the quivalent to cents or $? )
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lol| nikki6ixx wrote on Wed, 09 June 2010 05:11 |
With only 14 people living in Canada, the retarded one was bound to show up around here sooner or later.
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Jumping from the empire state building onto concrete head first and surviving is possible if I know how to code? Wow, teach me please.
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| CarrierII wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 22:35 |
I am in a bad mood with you, you wasted my time.
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That was the worst comment to this thread ever.
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| Nightma12 wrote on Wed, 08 June 2011 14:27 |
your mum is a stupid language
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| reborn wrote on Sun, 20 November 2011 11:54 |
Liquedv2, yew need to branch out a little on your thinking. I'm sure you'll twig it soon enough, but you're barking up the wrong tree.
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But 1 knows how to use triggerbot!
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| Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #433032 is a reply to message #433029] |
Sun, 18 July 2010 03:03 |
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Dover
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| CarrierII wrote on Sun, 18 July 2010 01:52 |
I read that, I lol'd.
Amazon.co.uk, and you're done. (tm).
DRM free, insta download at 70p (approx $0.45) per song?
Win.
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That's about 70p more than I'm paying now.
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
Remember kids the internet is serious business.
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| Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #433079 is a reply to message #433078] |
Sun, 18 July 2010 17:21 |
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nikki6ixx
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| Ziggy Sobotka wrote on Sun, 18 July 2010 19:18 |
| CarrierII wrote on Sun, 18 July 2010 03:55 |
Yeah, with the risk of being sued and not supporting the artist. I stopped pirating once major digital providers went DRM free.
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You don't support the artist when you buy from Amazon or itunes, dont kid yourself. if the artist uses bandcamp or something similar, you can support them. else, buy their merch, go to their shows, spread the word about them if nothing else, but buying from itunes/amazon wont help them shit.
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Then how on Earth are they making income?
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56 |
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| Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #433080 is a reply to message #433079] |
Sun, 18 July 2010 17:55 |
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| nikki6ixx wrote on Sun, 18 July 2010 17:21 |
| Ziggy Sobotka wrote on Sun, 18 July 2010 19:18 |
| CarrierII wrote on Sun, 18 July 2010 03:55 |
Yeah, with the risk of being sued and not supporting the artist. I stopped pirating once major digital providers went DRM free.
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You don't support the artist when you buy from Amazon or itunes, dont kid yourself. if the artist uses bandcamp or something similar, you can support them. else, buy their merch, go to their shows, spread the word about them if nothing else, but buying from itunes/amazon wont help them shit.
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Then how on Earth are they making income?
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The things he mentioned above like buying much and going to shows. I'd imagine most have some kind of contract-based income with record labels, but I doubt it's a % of sales or anything like that. More than likely a lump sum.
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
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| Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #433110 is a reply to message #431987] |
Mon, 19 July 2010 02:00 |
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$550 for a ticket?
Fuck me.
At that price, they can have their live concert; I'll download their music for free - kthxcyalater.
If it were cheaper for a ticket I'd go for sure; and I know downloading their music for free is morally questionable; yet such is the world we live in.
Why should I make an effort to make less morally questionable decisions; especially in relation to downloading music; when millions of other people don't give a shit. It won't "turn the tide" of "good vs evil" (the epic saga continues? dundundun?).Thus, when I die some time from now, I can say with confidence that I will not have the regret of downloading music for free on my conscience.
There are already enough diehard fans who attend there shows and buy their merchandise. The rich shall stay rich; and my money shall stay in my pocket.
Sure it's probably an overly philosophical/moral/*insert your favorite adjective here* approach to the topic; and most likely containing many flaws in logic. Yet, take it for what it is (stupidity?).
Whatever the outcome, I'm sure we'll all care in 100 years time.
Edit: I don't mean to come across as a person who's personal philosophy = fuck the world, as long as my life semi decent; it doesn't really matter. I don't care what hardships my decisions may consequently bring to bear upon people in 100 years time. It's just that I'm not willing to pay for music that has been marked up in price by 200% just so some guy can have more money than he knows what to do with / can spend in his lifetime. Sure every song by every artist that I have deserves every single cent that it's worth; but you know what? - No, just no.
Sigh, there I go again.
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| Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #433112 is a reply to message #433108] |
Mon, 19 July 2010 02:35 |
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| CarrierII wrote on Mon, 19 July 2010 01:25 |
Small time gigs in bars / clubs are OK, but *points at the fact I live in the UK* Coldplay or U2 gig tickets are easily £300 ($550, roughly) or more - and all the live recordings I've seen of gigs from big-name bands just seem to consist of noise from the crowd, rather than the instruments on stage. 
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That must suck. I saw Muse at the Oracle Arena which isn't Wembely or anything, but isn't small at all, and it was less than $40. Who the hell would pay $500 to see shitty Coldplay?
Actually, I take my previous statement back. I saw Queen when they were doing their + Paul Roger tour and I think I might have spent like $50 for that.
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
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| Re: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament [message #433122 is a reply to message #433111] |
Mon, 19 July 2010 08:54 |
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nikki6ixx
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That's pretty upsetting. However, my point remains that I'd rather have the artist make some money instead of nothing at all; same goes for certain labels.
But I'll probably be buying more CD's in the future.
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56 |
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