| Auto-updater [message #432718] |
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If the TT project is successful and accepted, will EA let you push further updates through the updater?
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| Re: Auto-updater [message #432723 is a reply to message #432718] |
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As of right now, the auto-updater does not even EXIST anymore.
It seems like changes were made to the way XWIS works (specifically the machine servserv.westwood.com is now controlled by XWIS instead of EA) and no update checks are carried out any more for renegade.
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| Re: Auto-updater [message #432725 is a reply to message #432718] |
Wed, 14 July 2010 07:53 |
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Wait, are you saying that XWIS now controls the auto-update (albeit they've not implemented it/it's broken)?
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| Re: Auto-updater [message #432737 is a reply to message #432718] |
Wed, 14 July 2010 13:18 |
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If there is no working auto-updater then how will TT be delivered? An optional download?
If the updater is now under the control of XWIS, surely Olaf would welcome, or at least allow someone to try and create/fix it, then perhaps more maps could be added before the release of TT?
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| Re: Auto-updater [message #432744 is a reply to message #432718] |
Wed, 14 July 2010 14:04 |
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He's talking not talkinging about the built-in map downloader that would come with TT, but rather the method that TT itself would preferably used to be distributed.
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| Re: Auto-updater [message #432749 is a reply to message #432745] |
Wed, 14 July 2010 15:02 |
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| Sladewill wrote on Wed, 14 July 2010 16:04 |
They are obviously going to impliment it another way not through xwis but controlled by the TT team
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And what is this "obvious" way
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| Re: Auto-updater [message #432753 is a reply to message #432723] |
Wed, 14 July 2010 18:25 |
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| jonwil wrote on Wed, 14 July 2010 09:27 |
As of right now, the auto-updater does not even EXIST anymore.
It seems like changes were made to the way XWIS works (specifically the machine servserv.westwood.com is now controlled by XWIS instead of EA) and no update checks are carried out any more for renegade.
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... :\
worst possible news ever.
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| Re: Auto-updater [message #432766 is a reply to message #432718] |
Wed, 14 July 2010 23:20 |
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If they can disable it, they can also reenable it surely.
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| Re: Auto-updater [message #432770 is a reply to message #432718] |
Thu, 15 July 2010 00:09 |
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Hopefully, and if they can, why are we not asking Olaf if he kindly wouldn't mind sending out a map update right now?
Perhaps he is in control of it, but needs permission to use it?
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| Re: Auto-updater [message #432772 is a reply to message #432718] |
Thu, 15 July 2010 00:34 |
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The only way to be sure is to ask Olaf.
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| Re: Auto-updater [message #432773 is a reply to message #432772] |
Thu, 15 July 2010 00:44 |
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| jonwil wrote on Thu, 15 July 2010 09:34 |
The only way to be sure is to ask Olaf.
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I sent him a PM.
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| Re: Auto-updater [message #432774 is a reply to message #432718] |
Thu, 15 July 2010 00:49 |
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Olaf has confirmed that he runs the patcher, but it is up and running as far as he knows.
He doesn't have specific permission from EA to send out patches, so sending out any sort of patch would be possible, but approval from EA would be preffered.
I am going to assume that TT would have such an agreement with EA for when the TT patch is ready, and accepted widely as fit for purpose. So good news!
However, this does allow for another possibility...
If someone has a good relationship with EA, and can gain approval for a patch before TT is ready for release, then Olaf has confirmed that a patch with a few additional maps would be possible.
That is pretty fucking awesome. Even if all clients had an additional Three more maps, it would be an exciting breath of fresh air.
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| Re: Auto-updater [message #432776 is a reply to message #432718] |
Thu, 15 July 2010 02:14 |
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The maps would be easy to choose as a choice has been made for the core patches. Most of the core patch maps were pretty decent, bar the really huge ones.
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| Re: Auto-updater [message #432783 is a reply to message #432781] |
Thu, 15 July 2010 07:39 |
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| KobraOps wrote on Thu, 15 July 2010 15:32 |
| Omar007 wrote on Wed, 14 July 2010 17:34 |
Well maybe TT reads the map the server runs and then downloads it from another website?
That'd be a pretty obvious alternative. 
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I was talking about the actual patch...
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Announcement in the MOTD with a link to another website which contains the download?... 
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| Re: Auto-updater [message #432794 is a reply to message #432774] |
Thu, 15 July 2010 11:50 |
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| reborn wrote on Thu, 15 July 2010 02:49 |
Olaf has confirmed that he runs the patcher, but it is up and running as far as he knows.
He doesn't have specific permission from EA to send out patches, so sending out any sort of patch would be possible, but approval from EA would be preffered.
I am going to assume that TT would have such an agreement with EA for when the TT patch is ready, and accepted widely as fit for purpose. So good news!
However, this does allow for another possibility...
If someone has a good relationship with EA, and can gain approval for a patch before TT is ready for release, then Olaf has confirmed that a patch with a few additional maps would be possible.
That is pretty fucking awesome. Even if all clients had an additional Three more maps, it would be an exciting breath of fresh air.
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That's epic.
I believe Gozy should make some sort of anouncement on the site asking which maps should be in the update (or jus put in cp2 maps). Hell any new maps would be fucking awesome.
Also, if TT could contribute a lil for once and maybe add lil tweaks, i.e. blue hell fix or something.. 
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