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If the TT project is successful and accepted, will EA let you push further updates through the updater?


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Re: Auto-updater [message #432723 is a reply to message #432718] Wed, 14 July 2010 07:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As of right now, the auto-updater does not even EXIST anymore.
It seems like changes were made to the way XWIS works (specifically the machine servserv.westwood.com is now controlled by XWIS instead of EA) and no update checks are carried out any more for renegade.


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Re: Auto-updater [message #432725 is a reply to message #432718] Wed, 14 July 2010 07:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wait, are you saying that XWIS now controls the auto-update (albeit they've not implemented it/it's broken)?


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XWIS still going to make the patch mandatory?
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If there is no working auto-updater then how will TT be delivered? An optional download?

If the updater is now under the control of XWIS, surely Olaf would welcome, or at least allow someone to try and create/fix it, then perhaps more maps could be added before the release of TT?



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oops, lol.

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He's talking not talkinging about the built-in map downloader that would come with TT, but rather the method that TT itself would preferably used to be distributed.


Re: Auto-updater [message #432745 is a reply to message #432718] Wed, 14 July 2010 14:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They are obviously going to impliment it another way not through xwis but controlled by the TT team

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Sladewill wrote on Wed, 14 July 2010 16:04

They are obviously going to impliment it another way not through xwis but controlled by the TT team


And what is this "obvious" way
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Well maybe TT reads the map the server runs and then downloads it from another website?

That'd be a pretty obvious alternative. Sarcasm


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jonwil wrote on Wed, 14 July 2010 09:27

As of right now, the auto-updater does not even EXIST anymore.
It seems like changes were made to the way XWIS works (specifically the machine servserv.westwood.com is now controlled by XWIS instead of EA) and no update checks are carried out any more for renegade.



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Re: Auto-updater [message #432766 is a reply to message #432718] Wed, 14 July 2010 23:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If they can disable it, they can also reenable it surely.

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Re: Auto-updater [message #432770 is a reply to message #432718] Thu, 15 July 2010 00:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hopefully, and if they can, why are we not asking Olaf if he kindly wouldn't mind sending out a map update right now?
Perhaps he is in control of it, but needs permission to use it?



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The only way to be sure is to ask Olaf.


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Re: Auto-updater [message #432773 is a reply to message #432772] Thu, 15 July 2010 00:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jonwil wrote on Thu, 15 July 2010 09:34

The only way to be sure is to ask Olaf.


I sent him a PM.


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Olaf has confirmed that he runs the patcher, but it is up and running as far as he knows.
He doesn't have specific permission from EA to send out patches, so sending out any sort of patch would be possible, but approval from EA would be preffered.

I am going to assume that TT would have such an agreement with EA for when the TT patch is ready, and accepted widely as fit for purpose. So good news!

However, this does allow for another possibility...

If someone has a good relationship with EA, and can gain approval for a patch before TT is ready for release, then Olaf has confirmed that a patch with a few additional maps would be possible.

That is pretty fucking awesome. Even if all clients had an additional Three more maps, it would be an exciting breath of fresh air.



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The maps would be easy to choose as a choice has been made for the core patches. Most of the core patch maps were pretty decent, bar the really huge ones.

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Omar007 wrote on Wed, 14 July 2010 17:34

Well maybe TT reads the map the server runs and then downloads it from another website?

That'd be a pretty obvious alternative. Sarcasm

I was talking about the actual patch...
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KobraOps wrote on Thu, 15 July 2010 15:32

Omar007 wrote on Wed, 14 July 2010 17:34

Well maybe TT reads the map the server runs and then downloads it from another website?

That'd be a pretty obvious alternative. Sarcasm

I was talking about the actual patch...

Announcement in the MOTD with a link to another website which contains the download?... Whats That


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Omar007 wrote on Thu, 15 July 2010 09:39

KobraOps wrote on Thu, 15 July 2010 15:32

Omar007 wrote on Wed, 14 July 2010 17:34

Well maybe TT reads the map the server runs and then downloads it from another website?

That'd be a pretty obvious alternative. Sarcasm

I was talking about the actual patch...

Announcement in the MOTD with a link to another website which contains the download?... Whats That


God damn u dont get it. They need to make the patch required, so u cant play online with out it. And to do that they must go through XWIS. And my question was are they still going be able to do that
Re: Auto-updater [message #432785 is a reply to message #432784] Thu, 15 July 2010 10:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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KobraOps wrote on Thu, 15 July 2010 17:29

Omar007 wrote on Thu, 15 July 2010 09:39

KobraOps wrote on Thu, 15 July 2010 15:32

Omar007 wrote on Wed, 14 July 2010 17:34

Well maybe TT reads the map the server runs and then downloads it from another website?

That'd be a pretty obvious alternative. Sarcasm

I was talking about the actual patch...

Announcement in the MOTD with a link to another website which contains the download?... Whats That


God damn u dont get it. They need to make the patch required, so u cant play online with out it. And to do that they must go through XWIS. And my question was are they still going be able to do that

The patcher may not work atm but version check certainly does.
Changing the client version number gives issues Thumbs Up

So an alternative could be to only change the version number and let the MOTD give a link to the patch Thumbs Up

Also, send a mail to APOC for permission. When i asked to make TR stand-alone i received a go within 10 minutes Thumbs Up


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reborn wrote on Thu, 15 July 2010 02:49

Olaf has confirmed that he runs the patcher, but it is up and running as far as he knows.
He doesn't have specific permission from EA to send out patches, so sending out any sort of patch would be possible, but approval from EA would be preffered.

I am going to assume that TT would have such an agreement with EA for when the TT patch is ready, and accepted widely as fit for purpose. So good news!

However, this does allow for another possibility...

If someone has a good relationship with EA, and can gain approval for a patch before TT is ready for release, then Olaf has confirmed that a patch with a few additional maps would be possible.

That is pretty fucking awesome. Even if all clients had an additional Three more maps, it would be an exciting breath of fresh air.


That's epic.

I believe Gozy should make some sort of anouncement on the site asking which maps should be in the update (or jus put in cp2 maps). Hell any new maps would be fucking awesome.

Also, if TT could contribute a lil for once and maybe add lil tweaks, i.e. blue hell fix or something.. Huh


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Azazel wrote on Thu, 15 July 2010 20:50


...
Also, if TT could contribute a lil for once and maybe add lil tweaks, i.e. blue hell fix or something.. Huh

That was the whole point of TT Big Grin


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Omar007 wrote on Thu, 15 July 2010 13:21


Also, send a mail to APOC for permission. When i asked to make TR stand-alone i received a go within 10 minutes Thumbs Up


APOC doesn't work for EA anymore...

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Re: Auto-updater [message #432825 is a reply to message #432718] Thu, 15 July 2010 17:03 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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omg i missed that news Crazy

That sucks... I wouldn't know how to get a fast and good response then.


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