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Re: Clan roll call (for Wiki) [message #431452 is a reply to message #431432] Thu, 24 June 2010 23:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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TNaismith wrote on Thu, 24 June 2010 18:25

trooprm02 wrote on Wed, 23 June 2010 11:27

...It should a great history of competitive WOL clans, but now all is lost...


Why only competitive WOL clans? [MC] Clan (the clan I'm apart of) does NOT do any clanwars, but we are still a clan because we enjoy playing on Coop Servers together and chatting on our clan forums. We are regularly active each week on the coop servers as well related forums/websites.

Clans are not just created to be competitive and fight each other, they are created because the players have a common interest, that common interest might be playing competitive clanwars, or it might be something else. It isn't fair to just say that clan page should be about competitive WOL clans only.




Actually the cw.cc "clans" shouldn't be on that list. Nothing against the league or competitive games. There surely where a couple of the best ren players. But they are rather "teams" than "clans".
A clan is a different organisation IMO.

* own website with forums
* structured organisation
* at least about 10 members
* own gaming servers
* possibly playing various games
...


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Re: Clan roll call (for Wiki) [message #431453 is a reply to message #413657] Thu, 24 June 2010 23:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The original page could maybe be restored but as a new page called "history of Renegade clans".

Is there a reason why you figure we shouldn't at least attempt to keep pages of the wiki updated?


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Re: Clan roll call (for Wiki) [message #431466 is a reply to message #413657] Fri, 25 June 2010 03:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Co-op may not be as popular as AOW or Marathon, but we have our own regular base of members (8-10) and each one has logged on regularly each week up to this day. Just because the co-op gamemode isn't 'popular' doesn't mean our clan doesn't deserve to be represented. I understand there are other competitive clans on the wiki page that no longer are active, and need to be removed, but I will not allow the coop clan I'm apart of to be called 'unworthy' of being on the Renegade Clans wiki page. We work hard and put many hours each month into playing on the server and enjoying a game mode we really love. Ask anyone from the Exodus-Gaming community. We have an established presence and working relationship.

We have our own forums (Weiner, I'm not sure if talking to trooprm02 or me here. I didn't mention anything about cw.cc clans) and website, we have a working structure and leadership, and we have a regular coop server under our clan's influence.

If the wiki page is restored to an older version, I will still be working hard to add in clans that prove to be an active group of people (Weiner's post is a good outline) with common interests and somewhat moderate level of organization. The coop clan I am apart of, [MC], matches these qualifications and I see no reason to not add it, or any others like it, to the wiki page 'Renegade Clans' page.

If people want to see some older clans removed because you remember seeing them active five years ago, but know for a fact they are dead/inactive now, then make a post pointing out the clan and asking it to be removed. You give a solid reason/evidence/proof that the clan is indeed inactive/dead now, and we will remove it. We (or myself at least) will be more than happy to make those changes and keep the list one step closer to being updated.

If we find good evidence that the clan is active, has at least over 5-10+ players, and shows signs of some basic organization, structure and leadership, then they will stay. Regardless of whether they are 'competitive' or not.

Goztow has the full ability to revoke me on this, but I haven't heard any rules yet saying only 'competitive' clans are allowed on that list. Until then I will continue to add clans to the list as appropriate -- no matter if they are competitive or coop, or anything else.


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Re: Clan roll call (for Wiki) [message #431475 is a reply to message #431453] Fri, 25 June 2010 09:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Fri, 25 June 2010 01:18

The original page could maybe be restored but as a new page called "history of Renegade clans".

Is there a reason why you figure we shouldn't at least attempt to keep pages of the wiki updated?


Actually, this sounds like the best idea. Rename the original to "history of" then, but do restore it.


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Re: Clan roll call (for Wiki) [message #431483 is a reply to message #413657] Fri, 25 June 2010 11:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Except that it wouldn't be complete... It's rather a photo of clans at a certain moment.

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Re: Clan roll call (for Wiki) [message #431537 is a reply to message #431483] Fri, 25 June 2010 19:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Fri, 25 June 2010 13:11

Except that it wouldn't be complete... It's rather a photo of clans at a certain moment.


Lone's copy? Doesn't that wiki software have the ability to role back to a previous revision (by date)?


Re: Clan roll call (for Wiki) [message #431915 is a reply to message #431432] Sat, 03 July 2010 11:49 Go to previous message
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TNaismith wrote on Thu, 24 June 2010 17:25

AaeRohn, if your clan is only composed of one member at the moment, and the only reason you have it is to keep other clans off you (as in your not serious about trying to build the clan, recruit people, maintain, expand, etc), I'm not sure whether adding it to the list or not is a good idea. (Might have to speak to Goztow about that).

I can add it in all the same if you really wish.




Yes, the first reason of making DarkMatter was to keep other clans off me, but somehow, I managed to get other members on it... but that was years ago, and it wasnt called DarkMatter until I took it to Tremulous, where I found quite a few people to join it.

It's purpose on Tremulous was, and is still, to help get newbies on their feet. And I doubt there are newbies on Renegade anymore... (Newbies... not n00bs or nAbs or nubs)

I might ask around the servers or the forums if people want to join it eventually, but for now, you can normally find me on the noobstories.com server

And yes, if you could add it... I think it was called Mammoth Mayhem Tanks back when it was first made... or was that Red Alert 2?... either way, it was there one day.


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