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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/06/05/phyllis-chesler-america-ban-burqa-musl im-president-obama-france-switzerland/#content
Europe is starting to ban the burqa, should we as Americans continue the practice or should we let our 1st amend take precedent, or would you consider it perfectly in our rights to ban a religious covering that conveniently allows people to hide their faces and possibly let men/women that want to do us harm to go places without having to show their faces? Or should we let them keep it and isolate themselves from the rest of us despite the fact that it is the burqa itself that isolates and helps promotes race hatred in people that hate Arabs/Mid easterners? Or should they be allowed to wear it because it is their religon?
What do you think.
and yes, I read fox news, but not usually the opinions.
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| Re: Should we ban the burqa? [message #430186 is a reply to message #430168] |
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Whats a burqa? yes i read the link and i dont get a single cent on what it is.
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With only 14 people living in Canada, the retarded one was bound to show up around here sooner or later.
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| Re: Should we ban the burqa? [message #430187 is a reply to message #430168] |
Sun, 06 June 2010 09:21 |
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Yes, but for reasons entirely unrelated to supposed Muslim extremism or security issues.
Also, I hate to break it to you, but most of what's on Fox News is opinion peices.
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| Re: Should we ban the burqa? [message #430193 is a reply to message #430190] |
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| CarrierII wrote on Sun, 06 June 2010 17:40 |
| Phase-transport wrote on Sun, 06 June 2010 17:20 |
Whats a burqa? yes i read the link and i dont get a single cent on what it is.
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Wikipedia?
I don't see what purpose it serves, bar the repression of women. I know many (western) women who can acheive modesty without wearing something like that...
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o.0 thats teh last time i wanna know about burqa
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Zeratul PT2 | zeratul2400 wrote on Mon, 10 November 2003 09:49 |
GENOCIDE YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG JACKAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU CREATE DUSK FLAYING FUCK YOU BIG JAKAS YOUR MAPS IS BAD YOU WANT I WRUGHT THIS THE MAPS IS BAD HEY IS ONE YEAR YOUR PROMESS A WARPATH MOD WERKING BUT IT NO WORK AND DONT JUST GENOCIDE I TELL IT ALL REPLYER IN THIS FORUM I DESLIKE YOU.
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lol| nikki6ixx wrote on Wed, 09 June 2010 05:11 |
With only 14 people living in Canada, the retarded one was bound to show up around here sooner or later.
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| HaTe wrote on Sun, 04 July 2010 16:17 |
| Good-One-Driver wrote on Sun, 04 July 2025 01:37 |
everything is possible just need to know how to code
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Jumping from the empire state building onto concrete head first and surviving is possible if I know how to code? Wow, teach me please.
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| CarrierII wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 22:35 |
I am in a bad mood with you, you wasted my time.
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| Altzan wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 14:10 |
| Dreganius wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 07:27 |
| Good-One-Driver wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 09:03 |
lol fuckin russians damn communists
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That was the worst comment to this thread ever.
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| Nightma12 wrote on Wed, 08 June 2011 14:27 |
your mum is a stupid language
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| reborn wrote on Sun, 20 November 2011 11:54 |
Liquedv2, yew need to branch out a little on your thinking. I'm sure you'll twig it soon enough, but you're barking up the wrong tree.
The map is budding with new ideas and great game-play, AitcraftKiller just has to get to the root of the problem, it seems to have him pretty stumped right now.
Leaf him alone, he's doing a good job. I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say this map isn't fir you.
Anyway, this thread is really starting to lumber along, all this over some sap's map? I thought the game was dead, but this thread at least is poplar. It makes me pine for the days of yonder.
At the end of the day, life's a Beech.. Who wood of thought it?
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| Azazel wrote on Sun, 25 March 2012 10:20 |
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| Re: Should we ban the burqa? [message #430195 is a reply to message #430193] |
Sun, 06 June 2010 10:15 |
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start off by protecting kids from religious upbringing (how long is it gonna take for people to realise that kids need to be protected from religion), and then no woman would ever come to the conclusion that she ought to wear a burqa at all. you'll solve an absolutely enormous number of other problems as well.
you'll still have muslim men trying to force women to wear it. this proposition would be more popular if it was phrased better. it isn't attempting to impose a ban on clothing, it's attempting to lift a ban on clothing. so no, we shouldn't put up with women being forced to wear the burqa.
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| Re: Should we ban the burqa? [message #430200 is a reply to message #430195] |
Sun, 06 June 2010 10:28 |
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| Spoony wrote on Sun, 06 June 2010 12:15 |
start off by protecting kids from religious upbringing (how long is it gonna take for people to realise that kids need to be protected from religion), and then no woman would ever come to the conclusion that she ought to wear a burqa at all. you'll solve an absolutely enormous number of other problems as well.
you'll still have muslim men trying to force women to wear it. this proposition would be more popular if it was phrased better. it isn't attempting to impose a ban on clothing, it's attempting to lift a ban on clothing. so no, we shouldn't put up with women being forced to wear the burqa.
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Agreed.
Banning the burqa won't do shit to help with the muslim problem in Europe, though. Besides, I don't see any banning of wearing crosses (unless this is already banned in Europe?)...
Instead of wasting time trying to ban the burqa, I'd rather see time focused on not giving muslims any special rights in Europe altogether. And no, wearing a burqa isn't a "special right", since technically anyone can wear it. Of course, if any muslims were to oppose anyone that's NOT muslim wearing it, THEN the government should get involved and say "hey no fuck you".
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| Re: Should we ban the burqa? [message #430228 is a reply to message #430168] |
Sun, 06 June 2010 14:52 |
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Enforcing the ban would take a lot of extra work and bureaucracy.
Instead, families, and especially men that promote its use should be shown the door, once and for all.
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| Re: Should we ban the burqa? [message #430248 is a reply to message #430168] |
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There is no right decision here. If you want to keep it 'American' then you can't ban it but at the same time you can't support it.
The Constitution has countless flaws in it that lead to many different paradoxes such as this.
The Constitution permits religious freedom but contradicts that same freedom if the religion overrides other rights granted in the Bill of Rights.
Just how people have the right to peacefully protest something but banning of anything that isn't directly imposing on other people's rights is unconstitutional. (Banning anything considered 'obscene' that isn't directly restricting the rights of someone else should be and is unconstitutional, yet it happens on almost a daily basis.)
The way the bill of rights is set up and how the structure and ideals of the country are supposed to work, it is downright impossible for America to function the way it was designed to. There are way too many 'damned if you do; damned if you don't' paradoxes in the government and the Constitution that make the running of this country completely and utterly impossible. It's amazing that we survived this long in such chaos.
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| R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 06 June 2010 18:32 |
There is no right decision here. If you want to keep it 'American' then you can't ban it but at the same time you can't support it.
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This means nothing. You managed to write this entire paragraph without actually saying anything. >:[
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The first steps have been made in the legal process to ban "every outfit that makes someone completely unidentifiable".
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| CarrierII wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 11:34 |
| Goztow wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 07:56 |
The first steps have been made in the legal process to ban "every outfit that makes someone completely unidentifiable".
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There goes the full-size stormtrooper outfits, then.  Those are good for fancy dress parties.
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Still it's a good non-discriminative measure to ban things like Burqa's. Also, it would of course only apply to public area's, so inside convention centers you could still run around in your burqastormtrooper costume.
Also, this rule could be posed as safety measure and I guess it would not interfere with the US constitution as such. If it does then I'm unsure why Bush was able to torture people and pass more ridiculous lawls.
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| snpr1101 wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 01:53 |
| Spoony wrote on Sun, 06 June 2010 12:15 |
start off by protecting kids from religious upbringing (how long is it gonna take for people to realise that kids need to be protected from religion)
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i've said it plenty of times before and i've never heard a good counter-argument.
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| Re: Should we ban the burqa? [message #430304 is a reply to message #430168] |
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I heard Muslims wrote *CHEAT NAME REMOVE* and then pinned it on 0x90!
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
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| R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 09:26 |
| Dover wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 00:36 |
| R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 06 June 2010 18:32 |
There is no right decision here. If you want to keep it 'American' then you can't ban it but at the same time you can't support it.
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This means nothing. You managed to write this entire paragraph without actually saying anything. >:[
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Exactly. That's my point. There is no meaning to most of the rights in the Constitution because of paradoxes like the one you quoted me saying.
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I was specifically refering to the phrase "keep it American". That phrase means nothing.
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