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Re: Leaked TT Patch [message #428185 is a reply to message #427541] Thu, 13 May 2010 05:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They'd have to finish changing/improving the engine before they could construct the anti-cheat, so if that's where they're up to, I'd say pretty far along.


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Re: Leaked TT Patch [message #428337 is a reply to message #428185] Fri, 14 May 2010 15:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CarrierII wrote on Thu, 13 May 2010 14:50

They'd have to finish changing/improving the engine before they could construct the anti-cheat, so if that's where they're up to, I'd say pretty far along.


Not exactly true. It's pretty farly done, but untill there is time to finish the last bits, it can't be released.


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Re: Leaked TT Patch [message #428340 is a reply to message #427541] Fri, 14 May 2010 15:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Perhaps more accurate if I qualify "construct" with "fully".

At any rate, no point securing code you're about to remove/change.


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Re: Leaked TT Patch [message #428345 is a reply to message #428340] Fri, 14 May 2010 15:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CarrierII wrote on Sat, 15 May 2010 00:13

Perhaps more accurate if I qualify "construct" with "fully".

At any rate, no point securing code you're about to remove/change.


Well, from what I know, I can say that most actual gameplay fixes are done. It's just stuff regarding selfupdater, mapdownloader and anti-cheat that need the launcher and therefor cannot be finished right now.


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Re: Leaked TT Patch [message #428438 is a reply to message #428345] Sat, 15 May 2010 11:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Fri, 14 May 2010 17:35

CarrierII wrote on Sat, 15 May 2010 00:13

Perhaps more accurate if I qualify "construct" with "fully".

At any rate, no point securing code you're about to remove/change.


Well, from what I know, I can say that most actual gameplay fixes are done. It's just stuff regarding selfupdater, mapdownloader and anti-cheat that need the launcher and therefor cannot be finished right now.

Self updater? So TT will have more to it in later updates?


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Re: Leaked TT Patch [message #428462 is a reply to message #428438] Sat, 15 May 2010 15:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Sat, 15 May 2010 20:51

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Fri, 14 May 2010 17:35

CarrierII wrote on Sat, 15 May 2010 00:13

Perhaps more accurate if I qualify "construct" with "fully".

At any rate, no point securing code you're about to remove/change.


Well, from what I know, I can say that most actual gameplay fixes are done. It's just stuff regarding selfupdater, mapdownloader and anti-cheat that need the launcher and therefor cannot be finished right now.

Self updater? So TT will have more to it in later updates?

Well, we'd like to be able to fix bugs, if we made them, or continue to update Renegade and TT when needed. For ex against cheats.


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Re: Leaked TT Patch [message #428495 is a reply to message #427541] Sun, 16 May 2010 03:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sounds promising to attract old players back if theres constant monitoring

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Re: Leaked TT Patch [message #428582 is a reply to message #427541] Mon, 17 May 2010 07:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cant those bhp guys keep a few testers under control? Bunch of useless faggots. Hopefully this wont postpone the TT patch for renegade or any other mods.

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Re: Leaked TT Patch [message #428595 is a reply to message #428582] Mon, 17 May 2010 12:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Taz wrote on Mon, 17 May 2010 15:02

Cant those bhp guys keep a few testers under control? Bunch of useless faggots. Hopefully this wont postpone the TT patch for renegade or any other mods.

It's not entirely their fault, though. It's not like they can predict what every tester of every mod is going to do.


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Re: Leaked TT Patch [message #428606 is a reply to message #428582] Mon, 17 May 2010 15:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Taz wrote on Mon, 17 May 2010 09:02

Cant those bhp guys keep a few testers under control? Bunch of useless faggots. Hopefully this wont postpone the TT patch for renegade or any other mods.


Thanks buddy, your structured criticism is well appreciated. We're beaming with excitement.

Just FYI, if it wasn't for all of our testers, TT would be a near-useless endeavor. If we have a tester that is a "faggot", I take no hesitation to give them all shit possible for it. But since you're not a tester and don't have access to our internal forums or the TT internal forums, I daresay you're the faggot who quite honestly has no bloody goddamned idea what is going on or how much our testers do in the first place.
Re: Leaked TT Patch [message #428610 is a reply to message #427541] Mon, 17 May 2010 16:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I can say right now that without the APB, AR and Reborn testers, 4.0 wouldn't be where it is today.

A huge chunk of the bug-fixing (and some of the features) have come about because of testing done by these guys.


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Re: Leaked TT Patch [message #428628 is a reply to message #427541] Mon, 17 May 2010 23:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm sure that a decent bunch of Renegade testers could have done a good job as well, without the constant hassle for new features related to the mods. But i guess that as you're all waiting for Sir Kane, it doesn't really matter if you need to develop new stuff.

I'm also stunned that there has still not been an alpha Renegade test phase with what's done.


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Re: Leaked TT Patch [message #428665 is a reply to message #427541] Tue, 18 May 2010 09:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There is no organized Renegade test team as far as I am aware and I do not think TT currently has any people able to set it up either. The engine is the same; it should not matter a lot whether it is tested on Renegade, APB or Reborn. I too would have preferred a Renegade team, but it's simply not feasible.

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Re: Leaked TT Patch [message #428667 is a reply to message #427541] Tue, 18 May 2010 10:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I can get you a team of 10 testers in no time.

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Re: Leaked TT Patch [message #428672 is a reply to message #428667] Tue, 18 May 2010 10:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Tue, 18 May 2010 12:10

I can get you a team of 10 testers in no time.


Added to that I'm very sure there are communities that love to help you guys.
Re: Leaked TT Patch [message #428674 is a reply to message #428672] Tue, 18 May 2010 10:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Reaver11 wrote on Tue, 18 May 2010 12:48

Goztow wrote on Tue, 18 May 2010 12:10

I can get you a team of 10 testers in no time.


Added to that I'm very sure there are communities that love to help you guys.


This,

tbh, you have no idea how much some moderators hate cheaters/cheating/cheat0rmak3rs. Getting 10 mods to test, wouldn't be hard at all. @ TT


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Re: Leaked TT Patch [message #428676 is a reply to message #428665] Tue, 18 May 2010 12:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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StealthEye wrote on Tue, 18 May 2010 11:47

There is no organized Renegade test team as far as I am aware and I do not think TT currently has any people able to set it up either. The engine is the same; it should not matter a lot whether it is tested on Renegade, APB or Reborn. I too would have preferred a Renegade team, but it's simply not feasible.

How is it not feasible? Not trying to be a sarcastic dick or something for once, I'm actually curious.


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Re: Leaked TT Patch [message #428681 is a reply to message #427541] Tue, 18 May 2010 12:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The people you're making it for I'm sure would only love to test what you are making them.

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Re: Leaked TT Patch [message #428699 is a reply to message #427541] Tue, 18 May 2010 14:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There's plenty of people who would test it, me included.

It would actually give me some hope again.


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Re: Leaked TT Patch [message #428700 is a reply to message #427541] Tue, 18 May 2010 14:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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there are already beta testers. There is a long list of people that have been beta testers for years. They are the ones that get to test tt.

It would be nice to make a open beta so the stuff already made can be tested extensively. Not sure if tt is at the point or not.
Most of people getting scripts 4.0 are getting it from apb. This leak shouldn't be a big deal. Then again I have no idea whats actually going on.


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Re: Leaked TT Patch [message #428708 is a reply to message #428700] Tue, 18 May 2010 16:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mr.NiceGuy wrote on Tue, 18 May 2010 23:36

there are already beta testers. There is a long list of people that have been beta testers for years. They are the ones that get to test tt.

It would be nice to make a open beta so the stuff already made can be tested extensively. Not sure if tt is at the point or not.
Most of people getting scripts 4.0 are getting it from apb. This leak shouldn't be a big deal. Then again I have no idea whats actually going on.

There will be an open beta, but only when we have more or less fully working AC and an auto updater. It is absolutely crucial that we can remotely force people to update, as otherwise there will be people getting weird errors or whatever because of not updating.


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Re: Leaked TT Patch [message #428709 is a reply to message #427541] Tue, 18 May 2010 17:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The anti-cheat itself is 99% complete. The only work remaining is specific fixes designed to block specific cheats (i.e. when a cheat uses a given piece of renegade code or data, sometimes we can do things to move that data around or change its format so the cheater has to find the new location which is much harder to do)

Tweaks can be made to the anti-cheat as the beta test goes along (files that should be "cheat protected" but that arent for example)

Its mostly the launcher/auto updater/etc that we are waiting for on the public beta test.


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Re: Leaked TT Patch [message #428720 is a reply to message #427541] Tue, 18 May 2010 20:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yea the auto updater is the one thing need completely finished before releasing publicly.

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Re: Leaked TT Patch [message #428723 is a reply to message #427541] Tue, 18 May 2010 20:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Before you do a public beta is it possible to get a feature list?

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Re: Leaked TT Patch [message #428730 is a reply to message #427541] Tue, 18 May 2010 23:48 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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If you get a small group of alpha testers, you don't need an auto updater as these people will indeed check things out.

The reason I'm suggesting this is because there seems to not have been any testing specifically on Renegade, by a group of non coders. I'm not at all convinced that because it works on APB, it'll also work on Ren...

What I'm trying to avoid is that you release an open beta for Ren and realize after 1 hour that multiple things just don't work for Renegade. Also, as some said before, it could give a new breath to TT. It would also allow to fix some stuff while waiting for SK to finish his stuff.


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