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Re: Jus wondering .. [message #428399 is a reply to message #428393] Sat, 15 May 2010 04:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spoony wrote on Sat, 15 May 2010 13:19

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sat, 15 May 2010 12:54

Actually it's not, and I certainly do not need you to say that. Nor do I or anyone on the TT team needs you to make hints at what does or does not happen on private forums. TYVM.

Edit: Also, when the time is right, I have absolutely NO PROBLEM AT ALL defending my actions, I suspect I have the trust in that matter of the full team besides you.

You ought to be deeply ashamed of yourself.

Opinion.

In fact, an opinion I couldn't care less about due to above discussed reasons.
And now it is time to either lock the thread or move it to heated discussions and debate where your useless discussions opinions dominate.


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CarrierII wrote on Sat, 15 May 2010 06:12

I think this discourse needs to go elsewhere.


"Heated Discussions and Debates" maybe?

EDIT: Also it seems like you guys are making Spoony the bad guy here. This is/was about 0x90, not Spoony.


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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sat, 15 May 2010 06:46

Spoony wrote on Sat, 15 May 2010 13:19

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sat, 15 May 2010 12:54

Actually it's not, and I certainly do not need you to say that. Nor do I or anyone on the TT team needs you to make hints at what does or does not happen on private forums. TYVM.

Edit: Also, when the time is right, I have absolutely NO PROBLEM AT ALL defending my actions, I suspect I have the trust in that matter of the full team besides you.

You ought to be deeply ashamed of yourself.

Opinion.

In fact, an opinion I couldn't care less about due to above discussed reasons.
And now it is time to either lock the thread or move it to heated discussions and debate where your useless discussions opinions dominate.

I'm deadly serious about this, I never imagined I'd see anything as low as what you've just done.

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EDIT: Also it seems like you guys are making Spoony the bad guy here.

that was the point in the first place.


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Kimb wrote on Sat, 15 May 2010 13:49

CarrierII wrote on Sat, 15 May 2010 06:12

I think this discourse needs to go elsewhere.


"Heated Discussions and Debates" maybe?

EDIT: Also it seems like you guys are making Spoony the bad guy here. This is/was about 0x90, not Spoony.

You're correct. I did not intend to post here initially, but I wanted to avoid people to draw invalid conclusions from what Spoony said about EWD and the private discussion, since I have more information on that than people without access there. I completely agree with moving or removing these posts from this topic.

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that was the point in the first place.
Making you the bad guy here? That was never the point. It still isn't.


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StealthEye wrote on Sat, 15 May 2010 07:01

You're correct. I did not intend to post here initially, but I wanted to avoid people to draw invalid conclusions from what Spoony said about EWD and the private discussion, since I have more information on that than people without access there.

You can be very thankful, for TT's sake, that most people don't have access there. EWD can invoke the majority of TT's opinion on his side if he likes, but let's not kid ourselves... if it was a question of the overall Renegade community's opinion, well, sparks would fly.

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that was the point in the first place.
Making you the bad guy here? That was never the point. It still isn't.

i suppose i shouldn't have used the word "point". it wasn't the end, it was the means.

take a good look at what's just happened here, stealtheye. if you still think EWD doesn't have anything to be ashamed of, then i gravely question your judgement.


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lol

all you need now is Chris Crocker in the background saying "LEAVE HER ALONE!" with 'EWD' on his shirt


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Spoony wrote on Sat, 15 May 2010 07:28

lol

all you need now is Chris Crocker in the background saying "LEAVE HER ALONE!" with 'EWD' on his shirt

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lol; just lol

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Spoony wrote on Sat, 15 May 2010 14:15

StealthEye wrote on Sat, 15 May 2010 07:01

You're correct. I did not intend to post here initially, but I wanted to avoid people to draw invalid conclusions from what Spoony said about EWD and the private discussion, since I have more information on that than people without access there.

You can be very thankful, for TT's sake, that most people don't have access there. EWD can invoke the majority of TT's opinion on his side if he likes, but let's not kid ourselves... if it was a question of the overall Renegade community's opinion, well, sparks would fly.

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that was the point in the first place.
Making you the bad guy here? That was never the point. It still isn't.

i suppose i shouldn't have used the word "point". it wasn't the end, it was the means.

take a good look at what's just happened here, stealtheye. if you still think EWD doesn't have anything to be ashamed of, then i gravely question your judgement.

Spoony, don't kid yourself, you're not the representative for TT nor are you for Renegadeforums. You where for CW.cc, but I've heard that is dead. So basically, go screw yourself until you can find a majority that does actually support you and your opinions. As said that when the time is right, I have no problems explaining what I said there. Oh btw, I forgot, I wasn't the first to suggest that, that was mac/Crimson. So you may disagree, but as you might understand, you have basically half if not more of the TT team against you. Also, you shouldn't have mentioned PRIVATE arguments on a public forum.

Now you're fighting an unfair fight because I cannot respond to your accusation. You're almost suggesting as I personally did something as bad as leaking TT or something to 0x90, which, obviously I did not.


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Spoony wrote on Sat, 15 May 2010 14:15

You can be very thankful, for TT's sake, that most people don't have access there. EWD can invoke the majority of TT's opinion on his side if he likes, but let's not kid ourselves... if it was a question of the overall Renegade community's opinion, well, sparks would fly.
I doubt it.

Spoony wrote on Sat, 15 May 2010 14:15

i suppose i shouldn't have used the word "point". it wasn't the end, it was the means.
A means to what end? It is not a means; I only wanted to show that I do not share your judgement of what EWD said in the private forums. I think I made that clear, so I'll stop posting now.

Spoony wrote on Sat, 15 May 2010 14:15

take a good look at what's just happened here, stealtheye. if you still think EWD doesn't have anything to be ashamed of, then i gravely question your judgement.
Go ahead and question my judgement; I question yours.


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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sat, 15 May 2010 07:44

Spoony, don't kid yourself, you're not the representative for TT nor are you for Renegadeforums.

Never said or thought I was, so there's no danger of "kidding myself".

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You where for CW.cc, but I've heard that is dead.

Yes. Undetectable cheats killed it. (not the only cause, but by far the biggest cause) 0x90 killed it. Don't you ever dream of forgetting that.

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So basically, go screw yourself until you can find a majority that does actually support you and your opinions.

if i cared about "a majority" being on my side, i suspect i could achieve that in the general community here simply by saying what was just revealed. on that basis, you can be thankful that i don't give a shit about majority being on my side.

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Oh btw, I forgot, I wasn't the first to suggest that, that was mac/Crimson.

i don't remember mac or crimson deciding to publicly turn against a fellow TT member for the sole purpose of helping this odious plan succeed.

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So you may disagree, but as you might understand, you have basically half if not more of the TT team against you.

well, you're coming down a little, you previously said "I suspect I have the trust in that matter of the full team besides you.". even so, if i was the only TT member who could see the extraordinary folly - and danger - of this concept, that alone would justify my presence on the team if only to talk some fucking sense into the rest of you.

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Also, you shouldn't have mentioned PRIVATE arguments on a public forum.

you're in no position to talk about what someone else "shouldn't have done", you really aren't.

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Now you're fighting an unfair fight because I cannot respond to your accusation.

oh, my. *I* am fighting an unfair fight. are you kidding? i could destroy your reputation in a moment by publicly revealing what's just happened here. be thankful i am putting myself at a great disadvantage by fighting fair.


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Kimb wrote on Sat, 15 May 2010 07:34

Spoony wrote on Sat, 15 May 2010 07:28

lol

all you need now is Chris Crocker in the background saying "LEAVE HER ALONE!" with 'EWD' on his shirt

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Call me evil, but if I saw him irl, i'd do ALOT worse than that.

I'm a calm open-minded type of guy, but people like 0x90 jus makes my blood boil.

Guys stop bashing spoony, he's giving his opinion's which, like everyone else, he's entitled too.

This topic is about 0x90, don't forget it.

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Anyway, just to shed a little bit of different light on 0x90> we're talking to him and well he's planning on giving us privately the source of rgh, so we know exactly what it does, now aren't you 0x90?
I highly doubt he'd do this. But now I see why Spoony is so enraged, the people we're trusting to create TT will take the chance of giving certain files to 0x90 in order to get the source for 'blabla' jus my opinion.

Yeah okay, him giving you guys the 'blabla' source would be awesome, so you could patch against it in TT easier but let's not forget this is 0x90 the guy who hacked RG and created cheats that destroyed several communties (owners cheating),cw.cc. I fail to see how you can trust him or hold him in any high regard.

If he did indeed give you guys the source, then that's a step in the right direction, but let's not forget. 'Once a cheater - always a cheater'.


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Where did you get the suggestion TT were handing anything to 0x90?

That's enough. Locked.

TT members, take your discussions elsewhere, need I remind you you are the community's last hope at sorting out this mess, and all you're currently doing is arguing, in public.

Moved to heated discussions.

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luv2pb wrote on Sun, 16 May 2010 22:09

0x90 is someone you want on your side and could be a HUGE asset to Renegade. Any one who thinks he should be banned is either misinformed or completely retarded.


With the recent release of his cheat program, I don't think he has much interest in being an asset for Renegade, or being on anyone's side.


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nikki6ixx wrote on Sun, 16 May 2010 14:17

luv2pb wrote on Sun, 16 May 2010 22:09

0x90 is someone you want on your side and could be a HUGE asset to Renegade. Any one who thinks he should be banned is either misinformed or completely retarded.


With the recent release of his cheat program, I don't think he has much interest in being an asset for Renegade, or being on anyone's side.

FYI the new 2.0 something version of his has been downloaded over 100 times already Angry


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Well that is half the playerbase cheating then.



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luv2pb wrote on Sun, 16 May 2010 14:09

0x90 is someone you want on your side and could be a HUGE asset to Renegade. Any one who thinks he should be banned is either misinformed or completely retarded.

I agree, so we can have Renegade even more shat upon with retarded cheats made to cater to idiotic 13 year old faggots who can't play properly.

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Tiesto wrote on Sun, 16 May 2010 14:50

Well that is half the playerbase cheating then.



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luv2pb wrote on Sun, 16 May 2010 14:09

0x90 is someone you want on your side and could be a HUGE asset to Renegade. Any one who thinks he should be banned is either misinformed or completely retarded.

some of the things you've said about 0x90 along these lines are not just ridiculous, they're insultingly ridiculous


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Spoony wrote on Mon, 17 May 2010 00:39

luv2pb wrote on Sun, 16 May 2010 14:09

0x90 is someone you want on your side and could be a HUGE asset to Renegade. Any one who thinks he should be banned is either misinformed or completely retarded.

some of the things you've said about 0x90 along these lines are not just ridiculous, they're insultingly ridiculous

From you yes.

Why didn't this topic stay locked? It has no purpose.


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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sun, 16 May 2010 18:03

Why didn't this topic stay locked? It has no purpose.

Because as i might have mentioned, move it to HDnD and here it is! i see no reason to close it, public talk about 0x90, and supporting Spoony and his view


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You where for CW.cc, but I've heard that is dead.

Yes. Undetectable cheats killed it. (not the only cause, but by far the biggest cause) 0x90 killed it. Don't you ever dream of forgetting that.



That definitely was the biggest cause. Sad


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