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Re: Catholic adoption agencies and homosexuality [message #427872 is a reply to message #427866] Sun, 09 May 2010 11:41 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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kadoosh wrote on Sun, 09 May 2010 13:05

Spoony wrote on Sun, 09 May 2010 12:16


firstly, there's an absolutely huge difference in the reasons why neither side budges.

secondly, read my last reply to altzan.


It still doesn't change the fact that NOBODY WILL BUDGE. reasons aside, no matter how bizarre they may be, neither one of you will budge. Thus making it pointless.

you clearly didn't read what i was hoping you would read, i.e. the case where one person budged a great deal as a result of these debates, resulting in him achieving a basic human right that was being denied him before. how comfortable a life you must lead to think these things are pointless.

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if the bible is perfect, and so many christians say it is, then pointing out a factual error, an internal contradiction or a shockingly evil moral teaching - even just one in a 4000 page book - is pretty damaging, is it not?


You are asking me a question that I can't answer. I THINK THE WHOLE DAMN BOOK IS FICTION.

i wasn't asking you, if it wasn't obvious. i was pointing out why your earlier criticism of "omg they think finding one thing wrong in a 4000 page book means the whole thing's bullshit". well, one error or evil teaching in the bible would undermine what quite a lot of christians do say about it.

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I think god is fiction, and you are proving my point that you will go So far out of your way, even though I know you don't think it's to far, to find something to argue about to someone who does believe.

i really don't think civilised criticism is "going too far" in response to an ideology that's trying to take over the world.

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where do you live?

I live in the US where there is a line between Religion and Gov't. As thin as it may be there's a line. We have had the 10 commandments pulled from courthouses. If people here have a problem with something we take it upon ourselves to get it changed.

the line certainly is thin and it's being tested all the time, isn't it?

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i don't care what they think about me either. however, threatening someone with horrific punishments for not agreeing with you - especially a child - is sick and it ought to stop.

It's this statement that leads me to believe English religion and US religion are far different. I've been to church with my sister and her children(cause my niece asked me to go). I really don't believe they only focused on the "nice" things because I was there. The never once talked about Hell.

i wasn't specifically talking about english religion when i mentioned hell... christianities (i've never heard anyone use the plural before, so maybe there's a first) do it all over the world. maybe your particular church doesn't believe in hell, or maybe it thinks it's a good idea to deceive the congregation (a deception within a deception, if you can get your head round that)


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