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Re: Catholic adoption agencies and homosexuality [message #427858 is a reply to message #427852] Sun, 09 May 2010 09:16 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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kadoosh wrote on Sun, 09 May 2010 09:29

Yes I think it's useless.
This debate and any other debate on the subject is useless. I know I used that word again and you'll have some problem with it. This argument between believers and skeptics rages on and both sides might as well be talking to walls. Neither side is going to budge.

firstly, there's an absolutely huge difference in the reasons why neither side budges.

secondly, read my last reply to altzan.

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The proof of people looking for evidence and believing only certain parts of that information can be proven by looking at anything political. Different people look at things and interpret them differently. Then you get ridiculous arguments where people point to 1 page of a 4000 page report and say this flaw proves you are wrong.

is the bible the word of god or isn't it? is god a being of perfect morality or is he not?


Are you asking for my personal opinion, or do you want to speak to a theology major?

neither. the question was a rebuttal to your last comment.

if the bible is perfect, and so many christians say it is, then pointing out a factual error, an internal contradiction or a shockingly evil moral teaching - even just one in a 4000 page book - is pretty damaging, is it not?

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My opinion = I don't care. I believe it's fiction. I only have a problem with any of it when I see someone trying to force their beliefs on someone else. The day I get a horde of bible thumper type people standing a my front door screaming, "You're Going To Hell!!!" Is the day I see them as forcing it on me. As that hasn't happened

where do you live?

here, christianity gets automatic seats in parliament. the head of the church is also the head of state. its legacy means our system is barely a democracy at all (look how well that just worked out for us). there are laws saying we can't criticise religion. it gets enormous amounts of public money and it gets tax breaks. worst of all, it has control over education.

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Theology Major = Isn't that like getting a degree in gameboy? Seriously you get a degree on fictional history.

indeed, theology is basically a word to make stupidity and unsupported guesswork sound like a science.

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If there is an after life I guarantee I'll be in hell, but I'll go defending to the end your right to believe in what ever man made religion you wish.

i'll defend that too. i absolutely believe in the right of freedom of belief and have said so many times.

religion doesn't.


As someone who doesn't believe in the same things they do, I'll say this:

I PERSONALLY DON'T GIVE 2 SHITS WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT ME OR WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO ME IN ANY FORM OF AN AFTERLIFE.

i don't care what they think about me either. however, threatening someone with horrific punishments for not agreeing with you - especially a child - is sick and it ought to stop.


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