| Open letter to the trolls [message #425582] |
Tue, 13 April 2010 02:37  |
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Goztow
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Dear Miss Troll,
Dear Mister Troll,
Yes, you who are searching through messages to reply with plecos, to call people faggots or even better to start flame fights.
You, who's day is a success only if you managed to cause e-drama. You, who's deliberately provocative messages have caused countless hours of moderating time.
You, the master of ad hominem who lack any substance or relevence to back up your arguments.
Oh you, dear Troll, please consider this gentile message from the moderating team...
There, now that that's done... I'd like to note that this message is quite serious. We've noticed a serious increase of troll-messages (I don't know how to call them otherwise) during the last weeks, months, surprisingly even more so from users that recently came back (right, Dover?). We'd like it to cease. It's starting to take too much of our time. So please quit it...
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| Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425588 is a reply to message #425582] |
Tue, 13 April 2010 05:11  |
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Dover
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| Goztow wrote on Tue, 13 April 2010 02:37 |
Dear Miss Troll,
Dear Mister Troll,
Yes, you who are searching through messages to reply with plecos, to call people faggots or even better to start flame fights.
You, who's day is a success only if you managed to cause e-drama. You, who's deliberately provocative messages have caused countless hours of moderating time.
You, the master of ad hominem who lack any substance or relevence to back up your arguments.
Oh you, dear Troll, please consider this gentile message from the moderating team...
There, now that that's done... I'd like to note that this message is quite serious. We've noticed a serious increase of troll-messages (I don't know how to call them otherwise) during the last weeks, months, surprisingly even more so from users that recently came back (right, Dover?). We'd like it to cease. It's starting to take too much of our time. So please quit it...
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Trolling is one way to think of it, Gozy, but I look at it as appropriately replying to a thread. It's well and good to have a serious discussion when a topic has something worth discussing (Like this thread, for example). But how constructive can a post be when the topic it's replying to is "What is happening to http://www.Renegadeforums.com"? What other meaningful information can be added six pages into the Atomix thread?
If the plecos and the such were just pointless spam in otherwise worthwhile topics, I would completely agree with you. However, given the quality of the topics the forums have been getting in the past weeks and months, I really don't know what you're expecting.
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Remember kids the internet is serious business.
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| Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425592 is a reply to message #425590] |
Tue, 13 April 2010 06:09 |
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| Goztow wrote on Tue, 13 April 2010 05:49 |
A topic that has no worth discussing should die.
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Of course. And it will die. All topics do.
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
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| Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425593 is a reply to message #425582] |
Tue, 13 April 2010 06:28 |
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It should die without needing to fill it up with stupid remarks. Replicating on trolls by trolling will only result in troll².
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| Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425594 is a reply to message #425582] |
Tue, 13 April 2010 06:30 |
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I believe the saying goes "And nothing of value was lost".
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
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| Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425596 is a reply to message #425594] |
Tue, 13 April 2010 07:01 |
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| Dover wrote on Tue, 13 April 2010 15:30 |
I believe the saying goes "And nothing of value was lost".
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You obviously don't consider time as something valuable then.
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| Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425597 is a reply to message #425596] |
Tue, 13 April 2010 07:12 |
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| Goztow wrote on Tue, 13 April 2010 07:01 |
| Dover wrote on Tue, 13 April 2010 15:30 |
I believe the saying goes "And nothing of value was lost".
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You obviously don't consider time as something valuable then.
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I don't know why you try and regulate situations like that though. What are you saving? Or is it just enforcing the letter of the law for the sake of enforcing the letter of the law? It seems like you're telling people to stop pissing in an ocean full of piss because pissing in the ocean is wrong, and it wastes your time when you try to restore the ocean to it's previous piss levels.
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
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| Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425598 is a reply to message #425582] |
Tue, 13 April 2010 07:51 |
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If it carries on, there will be no value left in these forums.
It's sad to see is happen, and even worse are people actively contributing to the demise, despite knowing their actions are a contributing factor.
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| Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425600 is a reply to message #425597] |
Tue, 13 April 2010 08:02 |
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| Dover wrote on Tue, 13 April 2010 16:12 |
| Goztow wrote on Tue, 13 April 2010 07:01 |
| Dover wrote on Tue, 13 April 2010 15:30 |
I believe the saying goes "And nothing of value was lost".
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You obviously don't consider time as something valuable then.
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I don't know why you try and regulate situations like that though. What are you saving? Or is it just enforcing the letter of the law for the sake of enforcing the letter of the law? It seems like you're telling people to stop pissing in an ocean full of piss because pissing in the ocean is wrong, and it wastes your time when you try to restore the ocean to it's previous piss levels.
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So you're saying I shouldn't spend my time trying to keep some value in this place, because it will be a waste of time if that doesn't succeed? And that if i try it anyway, then it's my own fault for wasting my time in a project I believe in so obviously you don't need to stop pissing?
I see no fatality.
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| Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425605 is a reply to message #425604] |
Tue, 13 April 2010 10:00 |
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| R315r4z0r wrote on Tue, 13 April 2010 12:44 |
| reborn wrote on Tue, 13 April 2010 10:51 |
If it carries on, there will be no value left in these forums.
It's sad to see is happen, and even worse are people actively contributing to the demise, despite knowing their actions are a contributing factor.
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I disagree.
A post is a post is a post. Regardless of what it says it still contributes to a discussion.
As long as people keep posting, the forum wont die.
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There's a difference between a post that has value, and a post that has no value. A post with no value does not positively contribute, infact it has the opposite effect.
Who cares if the forum is still technically active, if the only activity is the kind of crap you see in the spam forum?
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| Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425606 is a reply to message #425582] |
Tue, 13 April 2010 10:05 |
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Still, I disagree.
A thread could be about politics and someone could suddenly mention noodles and from then on out, the thread would be about noodles.
One person alone cannot decide the value of a post because different people value different things. You never know, what you might find pointless and stupid, someone else might find informative and enjoyable.
IMO, the only sorts of posts that would degrade the forum and lower its value are spam-bot advertisements.
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| Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425624 is a reply to message #425623] |
Tue, 13 April 2010 16:50 |
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to whoever (im to annoyed at my internet to find it again)
said that a valueless troll post is still value to the conversation... such posts make the site less desireable and then the entire site becomes nothing but retards who refuse to stop posting... this is the equivelent of a dead site... goztow and other moderaters and the admins keep this from happening therefore goztow is correct.
and if he does not succeed it still made the site last much longer
edit:*sorry for grammer and sentence structure and wording errors im a little to annoyed to care atm* hopefully you get the jest of what im saying
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| Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425638 is a reply to message #425636] |
Tue, 13 April 2010 17:32 |
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| R315r4z0r wrote on Tue, 13 April 2010 18:27 |
Ah, but now you are talking about something totally different.
There is a difference between "spamming" in a dead thread and "derailing" a popular thread.
The latter is what needs to be avoided and moderated.
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yes, but spamming a dead thread still distracts and that needs to be split or locked and moved which in turn wastes a mod or admin's time... derailing a popular thread yes... it is a different thing entirely but all in all wastes time of members, mods, and admins... which in turn makes that much worse due to the fact it wastes more peoples time
in other words... you are correct, but at the same time BOTH still distract and waste time...
edit: quote mistake
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