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| Re: Dont use Atomix forums! [message #425063 is a reply to message #424801] |
Wed, 07 April 2010 21:29   |
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While I don't necessarily want to get into a huge debate on here and I don't quite understand all the circumstances of the split ... I hope Xpert the best for his new community ... I'm not going to bother him, even though I did make some remarks on atomix-gaming about his choice of staff... I don't really see how they can be kissing that much ass to just brush everyone under the rug like dirt but oh well. I don't know the full story.
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| Re: Dont use Atomix forums! [message #425065 is a reply to message #425056] |
Wed, 07 April 2010 21:38 |
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| Xpert wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 22:43 |
Okay, done reading all this. I'll say it in my own words instead of other people posting for me or other people stirring up certain things farther than what it really is.
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Good choice. Let not fuck with my host names anymore? Thanks.
| Xpert wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 22:43 |
I don't care how many people hate me. Yay the world of C&C Renegade hates me!
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Probably because your used to it.
| Xpert wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 22:43 |
First, where is this coming from that I "hate these forums"? When did I ever say that? I don't even remember a time I talked about RenForums. A have about 400 posts and I don't think I have posted 1 thing negative on these forums itself in like forever. But that doesn't matter now does it?
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Actually Hate said you disliked them if you read up.
| Xpert wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 22:43 |
First off, where did get the information of me being poor? I'm not even near poor at all. I work at McDonalds. Are you implying all Mc. D employees are poor? For a side job, I get paid a lot of money there and it gave me college credits for my business classes in college. I'll take that even if it's from Mc. D. I do other things to make money but I don't have to discuss that since it is my life.
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Yea generally they are.. unless they own the franchise itself or they are 15 years old.
| Xpert wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 22:43 |
I messed with one person's facebook and automatically I hack the world. I only did it to Anthrax because he continuously fucks with me for the last 3 years and I needed to put a scare on him for him to piss off. I gave him his shit back and he knows how I did it. I even told him about Facebook having the worst security ever and it's been proven. Just Google it.
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You gave it back because I told him to take legal action. If you are so ashamed of yourself you have to steal someones password and fuck with their personal shit you self esteem must be at a record low. And you say its to teach him a lesson? What are you his mother?
| Xpert wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 22:43 |
Again another lie. I didn't use IRC. Infact, I don't even know his password. If I used IRC, raven would know since he is a NetAdmin on my network and he can see the services channel.
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Whatever you say tough guy.
| Xpert wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 22:43 |
No one knows my side of the story. And neither do you nor do you know what has lead up to all this. Stop being a hypocrite. You're just making assumptions based on what has happened so far.
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I am sure rengirl does.
Basically from what I have seen since I came back is you ban for entirely personal reasons at atomix. You got rid of Campa, the best thing atomix ever had and the reason why it was popular. And you also have became hated by most of your mods and people all through renegade. I remember you when I first gave you access to the box and you set up you cloudyserv on ungy and my clanwars server. You were nothing like this. It seems the power has gone straight to your head and you are running you community in a dictatorship. Why do you think all your mods were about to walk out on you? You don't listen to anyone and you will seek at nothing to get revenge. So do not come on here trying to act like this is all bullshit because you fucking well know the main problem is YOU.
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| Re: Dont use Atomix forums! [message #425066 is a reply to message #424801] |
Wed, 07 April 2010 21:50 |
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Oh whoah so i get dragged to this place again, TAHA. I did ur forums and everything else u asked me to do, styles, all the other shit, thats bout it. I have 0 time for anything for the past 8 months or more.
Please dont bring me in this shit anymore, im more than outta this than anything.
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| Re: Dont use Atomix forums! [message #425067 is a reply to message #425063] |
Wed, 07 April 2010 22:02 |
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| Xpert wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 23:43 |
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Does THAT constitute hacking a password off IRC to make himself feel a bit better about his feeble self.
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Again another lie. I didn't use IRC. Infact, I don't even know his password. If I used IRC, raven would know since he is a NetAdmin on my network and he can see the services channel.
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| Xpert wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 23:43 |
So I'm gonna say it again, I can't read pms on these forums. And password stealing? I don't have that either. So you can hop off of me for that. If you want proof, look up IPB stuff on it. I came across this while googling:
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to generate the passwords, ipb generates an md5 hash of it, "salts" it, and then re-hashes the salt. the salt i beleive is stored in ibf_members_extra, but i am not sure. note: it is unique for each user
knowing what my own password was, i tried this via the SQL toolkit thing in IPB admin... just to see if i could get it to match. i ran the following query: SELECT md5(concat(md5('abcdefgh'),'#####'))
where 'abcdefgh' was my password that i knew and '#####' was the salt stored in the members_converge.converge_pass_salt field.
it did not match either the members.member_login_key or the members_converge.converge_pass_hash fields for my user...
ugh, i figured this would be a simple hash or hash and salt that i could duplicate, didn't expect to not be able to discover this...
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Just to clarify a few things:
1) Whether he has a modification/plugin for IPB to read private messages is irrelevant. Any site administrator can simply go into the SQL database itself and read from there.
I am not saying Xpert or any of his admins do this, I am simply stressing the fact nothing on the internet is really private, it's all a matter of how willing the administrators are to protect your data.
2) Although most web application protect your passwords by hashing it (and hopefully with a salt as well) to make it near impossible to crack for the average person, that only means it is safe from prying eyes going through the SQL database.
It does not prevent malicious administrators from altering the PHP code (or whatever other language the software is written in) to log the passwords you input, email them, or even remove the hashing method entirely.
This is one of the reasons I don't like all these solutions like "OpenID" or "Facebook Connect", they depends too heavily on mutual trust.
Again, I am stating this to enlighten people about security, not to imply Xpert or his admins do this.
3) When Anope IRC Services is set to no hash method (which it is by default afaik) it stores the passwords in a simple text file anyone can read. Using the getpass command while connected is unnecessary. Additionally, the getpass command does not work when the passwords are set to use a hash such as md5.
Most IRC networks tend to use the name services.example.com which makes it easy for you to check how they're saving your passwords.
If I type /quote version services.* it gives me this on Atomix's IRC.
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Anope-1.7.21 (1341) services.atomix-gaming.net UnrealIRCd 3.2.x - M (enc_none) -- build #1, compiled Oct 2 2009 11:19:16
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Notice the (enc_none) which indicates the passwords are saved as plain-text.
My point is not that anyone is reading your passwords, because honestly I doubt they care. My point is you are putting your trust in the network administrators, on this site, on Atomix's site, and every other site you're registered on.
To sum up my 3 points above: Use different passwords and don't put anything on the internet that you wouldn't want to be made public.
| Ralph wrote on Thu, 08 April 2010 00:29 |
I hope Xpert the best for his new community ...
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It's the same community with a few people missing tbh... At least, from what I can tell in my few hours of playing in the server.
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| Re: Dont use Atomix forums! [message #425068 is a reply to message #425065] |
Wed, 07 April 2010 22:02 |
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| Trojan wrote on Thu, 08 April 2010 00:38 |
| Xpert wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 22:43 |
Okay, done reading all this. I'll say it in my own words instead of other people posting for me or other people stirring up certain things farther than what it really is.
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Good choice. Let not fuck with my host names anymore? Thanks.
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Stop making threats and attacking the server then? Thanks.
| Trojan wrote on Thu, 08 April 2010 00:38 |
| Xpert wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 22:43 |
I don't care how many people hate me. Yay the world of C&C Renegade hates me!
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Probably because your used to it.
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It's "you're", you mind differentiating between the two?
Used to it? I don't care what people think of me over Renegade, it's that simple. You obviously do though.
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| Xpert wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 22:43 |
First, where is this coming from that I "hate these forums"? When did I ever say that? I don't even remember a time I talked about RenForums. A have about 400 posts and I don't think I have posted 1 thing negative on these forums itself in like forever. But that doesn't matter now does it?
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Actually Hate said you disliked them if you read up.
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Can you not read. That's an opinion by another person. My question was when did I ever say that.
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| Xpert wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 22:43 |
First off, where did get the information of me being poor? I'm not even near poor at all. I work at McDonalds. Are you implying all Mc. D employees are poor? For a side job, I get paid a lot of money there and it gave me college credits for my business classes in college. I'll take that even if it's from Mc. D. I do other things to make money but I don't have to discuss that since it is my life.
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Yea generally they are.. unless they own the franchise itself or they are 15 years old.
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First you act like you know about psychology then you single everyone out and degrade everyone who works at McDonalds judging they are poor just because they work for McDonalds or own one? You must be really fortunate just because you're one rich canadian eh? If I had to psychologically analyze you, I would say you are being flat out prejudice and you are spoiled.
| Trojan wrote on Thu, 08 April 2010 00:38 |
| Xpert wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 22:43 |
I messed with one person's facebook and automatically I hack the world. I only did it to Anthrax because he continuously fucks with me for the last 3 years and I needed to put a scare on him for him to piss off. I gave him his shit back and he knows how I did it. I even told him about Facebook having the worst security ever and it's been proven. Just Google it.
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You gave it back because I told him to take legal action. If you are so ashamed of yourself you have to steal someones password and fuck with their personal shit you self esteem must be at a record low. And you say its to teach him a lesson? What are you his mother?
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I planned to give it back to begin with. I didn't care about the legal action he kept claiming to do. My self-esteem is just fine tyvm. And I'm not claiming to be his mother so no.
| Trojan wrote on Thu, 08 April 2010 00:38 |
| Xpert wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 22:43 |
Again another lie. I didn't use IRC. Infact, I don't even know his password. If I used IRC, raven would know since he is a NetAdmin on my network and he can see the services channel.
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Whatever you say tough guy.
| Xpert wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 22:43 |
No one knows my side of the story. And neither do you nor do you know what has lead up to all this. Stop being a hypocrite. You're just making assumptions based on what has happened so far.
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I am sure rengirl does.
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She doesn't and what does she have to do with it? She hasn't even done anything wrong to anyone and everyone keeps throwing her under the bus along with a few other people.
| Trojan wrote on Thu, 08 April 2010 00:38 |
Basically from what I have seen since I came back is you ban for entirely personal reasons at atomix. You got rid of Campa, the best thing atomix ever had and the reason why it was popular. And you also have became hated by most of your mods and people all through renegade. I remember you when I first gave you access to the box and you set up you cloudyserv on ungy and my clanwars server. You were nothing like this. It seems the power has gone straight to your head and you are running you community in a dictatorship. Why do you think all your mods were about to walk out on you? You don't listen to anyone and you will seek at nothing to get revenge. So do not come on here trying to act like this is all bullshit because you fucking well know the main problem is YOU.
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So you admit to judging everything based on what you've seen and opinions instead of knowing the full actual facts. Good, now we're getting somewhere.
Campa got rid of himself. We had entirely different views.
When did I attempt to act like this is "bullshit"? Why do you even bother continuing this debate? You weren't even involved with this place and are only taking advantage of it for your personal gain. My debates should probably be with the former Atomix people, not you.
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| Re: Dont use Atomix forums! [message #425069 is a reply to message #425066] |
Wed, 07 April 2010 22:07 |
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| Hawk wrote on Thu, 08 April 2010 00:50 |
Oh whoah so i get dragged to this place again, TAHA. I did ur forums and everything else u asked me to do, styles, all the other shit, thats bout it. I have 0 time for anything for the past 8 months or more.
Please dont bring me in this shit anymore, im more than outta this than anything.
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You're so full of shit. I bet you assumed you would be sticking around longer so you placed stupid shit like that in there.
You have 0 time for anything else but you came on here a few weeks ago wanting to redo the website.
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Session Start: Wed Mar 17 15:40:43 2010
Session Ident: NotHawk
[15:40:43] <NotHawk> about that new site yes or no
[15:40:45] <Xpert> ...
[15:40:51] <NotHawk> why dot dot dot
[15:41:07] <Xpert> Okay, lets pop out of no where and talk about something random
[15:41:22] <NotHawk> Ive tried talkin to u before
[15:41:27] <NotHawk> Ur alwaysssssss gone
[15:41:34] <Xpert> Then maybe that's a good thing.
[15:41:49] <NotHawk> well idk, the website is lookin a tad old
[15:41:55] <Xpert> And?
[15:42:03] <NotHawk> Im thinkin a nice new fresh one would be nice
[15:42:20] <Xpert> Okay, you keep thinking that.
[15:42:31] <NotHawk> Yuo dont think so sir?
[15:42:42] <Xpert> Doesn't matter what I think
[15:42:50] <NotHawk> And whys that
[15:42:58] <Xpert> Piss off 
[15:43:07] <NotHawk> Well thats no nice
Session Close: Wed Mar 17 15:48:30 2010
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Go fuck yourself.
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| Re: Dont use Atomix forums! [message #425070 is a reply to message #424801] |
Wed, 07 April 2010 22:13 |
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Why would i assume i was staying longer, i knew i was done soon, i knew it was gunna be a quick one. And ya u kno how random those times i ask to do somethin is lately cause im bored until an hour or so later.
Run towards the little guy u punk bitch
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| Re: Dont use Atomix forums! [message #425074 is a reply to message #425068] |
Wed, 07 April 2010 22:25 |
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| Xpert wrote on Thu, 08 April 2010 00:02 |
Stop making threats and attacking the server then? Thanks.
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I haven't attacked you server. How about you check the logs and see the ip thats doing it. You pissed a lot of people off yesterday rofl.
| Xpert wrote on Thu, 08 April 2010 00:02 |
It's "you're", you mind differentiating between the two?
Used to it? I don't care what people think of me over Renegade, it's that simple. You obviously do though.
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Yea renegade is my life. I am so nice to everyone as you can see cuz i want them to love me. Rofl
| Xpert wrote on Thu, 08 April 2010 00:02 |
Can you not read. That's an opinion by another person. My question was when did I ever say that.
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You asked where it came from and that was your answer. Can you not read?
| Xpert wrote on Thu, 08 April 2010 00:02 |
First you act like you know about psychology then you single everyone out and degrade everyone who works at McDonalds judging they are poor just because they work for McDonalds or own one? You must be really fortunate just because you're one rich canadian eh? If I had to psychologically analyze you, I would say you are being flat out prejudice and you are spoiled.
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I may have been fortunate in my life but I know have more responsibility then you can even dream of at mcdonalds. Do you honestly believe you can make a living at solely mcdonalds? Because economics says otherwise.
| Xpert wrote on Thu, 08 April 2010 00:02 |
I planned to give it back to begin with. I didn't care about the legal action he kept claiming to do. My self-esteem is just fine tyvm. And I'm not claiming to be his mother so no.
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I dont care if you planned to give it back or not. That was completely uncalled for. Thats like someone calling you ugly so you go break into their house and destroy there shit and justify it saying you were gonna replace it.
| Xpert wrote on Thu, 08 April 2010 00:02 |
She doesn't and what does she have to do with it? She hasn't even done anything wrong to anyone and everyone keeps throwing her under the bus along with a few other people.
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I never said anything negative about her.
| Xpert wrote on Thu, 08 April 2010 00:02 |
So you admit to judging everything based on what you've seen and opinions instead of knowing the full actual facts. Good, now we're getting somewhere.
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The actual facts seem irrelevant considering over half your mod team was going to leave.
| Xpert wrote on Thu, 08 April 2010 00:02 |
Campa got rid of himself. We had entirely different views.
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But you kept his mod?
| Xpert wrote on Thu, 08 April 2010 00:02 |
When did I attempt to act like this is "bullshit"? Why do you even bother continuing this debate? You weren't even involved with this place and are only taking advantage of it for your personal gain. My debates should probably be with the former Atomix people, not you.
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Yet you keep replying.
Are you lovin' it?
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| Re: Dont use Atomix forums! [message #425084 is a reply to message #424801] |
Thu, 08 April 2010 00:16 |
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It's expert's lucky andm y unlucky day... Everyone seems to have forgotten about this rule, which was introduced by the administration a few months back (God knows why...).
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This means I need to go through all the logs (ble) to check if there's private information in it... which I guess there is, otherwise it wouldn't be able to cause this much drama! As I have no time to do this at this moment, I removed them for the moment.
I must admit I don't like it, but if we're going to enforce a rule in one situation then we need to stay regular and do it in the other situation as well.
As to the whole drama, all I'll say is that there's no shame at working in Mc Donalds at all, at least it's a contribution to the economy and that IPB doesn't just go spitting out emails with PM's to the admins. I know what I'm talking about there...
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| Re: Dont use Atomix forums! [message #425086 is a reply to message #424801] |
Thu, 08 April 2010 00:20 |
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| Xpert wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 21:43 |
Ok, let me get this shit clear about this whole PM reading thing, etc. These are Atomix's second forums. Our first ones were lost. I had a person named Hawk (some people know him on IRC as NotHawk or Tyler, or whatever other 1000 names he had), but I had him re-do the Atomix forums. Eventually I removed him for being inactive. Then a week before the incident in November, I was looking through the emails that's connected with my site info and I found messages from the forums. It was the forums sending me emails every time someone made a new one as if it was a PM to me. I freaked out. I knew it wasn't from IPB itself because I've had version 2.3.4 before and I never had that occur ever. So every time I got the messages, I would just delete them. Then that day came a week later where I was on a "rampage" due to an incident in my family. So a few people were on a revolt against me talking about making a new community and all that. So while reading emails, I got those PM messages again. I read 3 of them and only 3 of them. 1 was a PM sent from Armani to RenGirl and the other 2 were from Speedy to Dippy. Those 2 pms contained stuff about the whole "take over Atomix" whatever stuff. Long story short, that passed on, got stopped from there and things were resolved for now at that time. But I was still under heat about the pm reading. I don't feel good about it myself and I read them anyways. So I googled and looked around for awhile. I couldn't find a solution. So I upgraded the IPB to 2.3.6. By then I realized, it stopped. I didn't get the emails again. I will still under heat about the whole PM thing so I even told shai, I don't know where it comes from, and I remember sending a screenshot to someone about it to maybe help me find the problem. I even told Shai to ask Hero to look around the web stuff since he was our web admin at that time. To my understanding, nothing came up.
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Thank you that is all I needed. P.S. Although I threatened to just give logs(including the personal bits) I wouldn't have really.
| Xpert wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 21:43 |
Now fast forward, this brings me to today, I went and talked to Hawk who happened to be on IRC. I asked him about it but I have a feeling he's lying so whatever.
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Yeah I liked that convo, it was cool. So was his with me. One of you is a liar, and really it matters little. The point was you like to read PMs.
Each time you would delete all admin tracks in the Admin CP for the forums. Did you seriously think dippy/Hero/myself never noticed, or talked about it?
| Xpert wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 21:43 |
So I'm gonna say it again, I can't read pms on these forums. And password stealing? I don't have that either. So you can hop off of me for that. If you want proof, look up IPB stuff on it. I came across this while googling:
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I do not give a damn how you did it, the fact is you did it. You gave that community a shit name with your actions in doing so.
| Xpert wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 21:43 |
The only people getting other people involved in this mess is the people who I booted or left Atomix.
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Do you know how that started? Simple enough. When I told them I was leaving they wanted to know why. Wanted me to stay. Wanted you to go.
Funny how telling people you care about the truth of how you feel, it rallies them together. I wanted to walk away, noone would let me. Can you say the same of the ones left there?
| Xpert wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 21:43 |
We look like the bad guys here because we were the first to take action. This thing has been in works for ages. It's just now finally being executed just because everyone finally got booted.
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You were 4 steps ahead of me, you said. How was it you were so smart knowing what I would do, when I didn't even know what I was going to do?
Were you four steps ahead of me that night in TS? I admit that was pretty petty of me, but I put more in that TS than you did with the permissions. You shouldn't have banned & zlined everyone.
You weren't ahead of me in anything unfortunately. Bitching out Rengirl because she didn't tell you weeks sooner, when you found out last week, was kind of funny. It wasn't her fault.
If you had known it would not have taken you so long to bring it to a boil, now would it? Forums go down, TS goes down, yeah that wasn't predictable.
If you had bothered to talk with me, you would have had the answer of what I was thinking. If you and dippy cared about your community you would have tried, you have only yourselves to blame.
You care about yourself, period. Dippy cares about admining. Sad that his motto is "I've seen owners come and go". It means he doesn't care about his people...just the "place".
I do like the shit dippy has been spreading about how I boycotted the server, lied about the PMs, lied about the Anthrax stuff. Once again Xpert, I thank you for the post. I do not need to do logs or the other I was planning. You screwed yourself far better and cleaner than I could have.
Most of the time I wasn't even on, because of how I felt about the whole fucking thing. When I was on I wasn't really there.
Hell when/if this blows over. Have a chat with Trojan(or me) and you can see for yourself how things went down. I did not want the split, he knows it, the rest know it.
Yes I did make a few contingencies of what I would do for the ones who followed me. That is what we of the human race call "leadership", you might learn it some day. I used to manage people far longer than you before I left Illinois.
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Thu, 08 April 2010 00:34 |
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| Goztow wrote on Thu, 08 April 2010 01:16 |
It's expert's lucky andm y unlucky day... Everyone seems to have forgotten about this rule, which was introduced by the administration a few months back (God knows why...).
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This means I need to go through all the logs (ble) to check if there's private information in it... which I guess there is, otherwise it wouldn't be able to cause this much drama! As I have no time to do this at this moment, I removed them for the moment.
I must admit I don't like it, but if we're going to enforce a rule in one situation then we need to stay regular and do it in the other situation as well.
As to the whole drama, all I'll say is that there's no shame at working in Mc Donalds at all, at least it's a contribution to the economy and that IPB doesn't just go spitting out emails with PM's to the admins. I know what I'm talking about there...
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Shit..I am sorry Goz, I truly never read that otherwise I would not have uploaded the file here. It doesn't matter they all know where I am at anyway. 
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I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
rejects I despise.
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| Re: Dont use Atomix forums! [message #425089 is a reply to message #425088] |
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| shaitan wrote on Thu, 08 April 2010 00:34 |
| Goztow wrote on Thu, 08 April 2010 01:16 |
It's expert's lucky andm y unlucky day... Everyone seems to have forgotten about this rule, which was introduced by the administration a few months back (God knows why...).
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Leaks/Private Information: RenegadeForums.com does not support or endorse the leaking of confidential or restricted information, such as leaked closed alpha/beta software, leaked source code, leaked logs, private messages, etc. Offenders will suffer any appropriate punishment up to and including post deletion/edits, temporary/permanent bans, and private message use restriction.
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This means I need to go through all the logs (ble) to check if there's private information in it... which I guess there is, otherwise it wouldn't be able to cause this much drama! As I have no time to do this at this moment, I removed them for the moment.
I must admit I don't like it, but if we're going to enforce a rule in one situation then we need to stay regular and do it in the other situation as well.
As to the whole drama, all I'll say is that there's no shame at working in Mc Donalds at all, at least it's a contribution to the economy and that IPB doesn't just go spitting out emails with PM's to the admins. I know what I'm talking about there...
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Shit..I am sorry Goz, I truly never read that otherwise I would not have uploaded the file here. It doesn't matter they all know where I am at anyway.
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Never apologize, you internet hero, you.
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Remember kids the internet is serious business.
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| Re: Dont use Atomix forums! [message #425091 is a reply to message #424801] |
Thu, 08 April 2010 01:01 |
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I am not condoning any invasion of privacy, but it does seem that xpert is getting a hard time for his mistakes.
I'm not saying any of what he did in retalliation is right, but you really have to weigh up his total deeds, rather than judge him on One incident.
It does seem to me in the renegade community (and indeed life actually), that One screw-up and you're name is mud.
You can be a pretty good guy for 99% of the time, but that 1% makes you a dousche bag in everyone else's eyes. No one is perfect, we all make mistakes.
When people are making their minds up about xpert, try to remember all the money, time and effort he has put into renegade and the community.
I'm not saying trust him with your passwords, but it would be a shame if he was thought of as scum bag.
Sometimes you have to see past mistakes, and have a little compassion and forgiveness. We've all done things in our lives that have needed forgving, and we're not proud of.
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| Re: Dont use Atomix forums! [message #425093 is a reply to message #424801] |
Thu, 08 April 2010 01:43 |
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| reborn wrote on Thu, 08 April 2010 02:01 |
It does seem to me in the renegade community (and indeed life actually), that One screw-up and you're name is mud.
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If only it were just the one screw-up...
| reborn wrote on Thu, 08 April 2010 02:01 |
Sometimes you have to see past mistakes, and have a little compassion and forgiveness. We've all done things in our lives that have needed forgving, and we're not proud of.
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Things can be forgiven in time, but never forgotten. There's a world of difference.
| Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:38 |
I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
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| Re: Dont use Atomix forums! [message #425099 is a reply to message #424801] |
Thu, 08 April 2010 04:04 |
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Ummm, I'm not really on anyone's side here. But trying to degrade someone for working at McDonalds while going to college is quite stupid. Anyone who has actually gone to college and got a degree knows that you can't have a real job and take 15-20 credits per semester. When you are in college, you should be poor as that what makes it fun. The funnest times in college are when you are dirt poor with your roommates. If everyone worried about making riches while in college, they would never graduate as it would consume their lives.
I also hope that those of you who are degrading Xpert for working at McDonalds, better have their own careers and are not living at home under their momma's and daddy's paycheck. If you have the audacity to degrade someone for being poor (by your standards) you should be able to back it up with your own overachieved resume. Since it's the time of year were we have to file taxes, lets see some W-2 forms (or Canadians equivalent T9 forms) so you can add some credibility to your claims.  If the forms are legitimate, we can try and convince Crimson to change your title on the forms to "Fabulous".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE6iAjEv9dQ - This music video is probably appropriate for most people here...lol!
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| Re: Dont use Atomix forums! [message #425122 is a reply to message #425115] |
Thu, 08 April 2010 10:25 |
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| HaTe wrote on Thu, 08 April 2010 17:43 |
Get the hell over it. I'm done posting here, because you all are clearly a HUGE waist of time,
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Suck up to Xpert more?
Seems like you're the WAIST of time.
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