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Re: Dont use Atomix forums! [message #425056 is a reply to message #424801]

Wed, 07 April 2010 20:43

Xpert
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Okay, done reading all this. I'll say it in my own words instead of other people posting for me or other people stirring up certain things farther than what it really is.

Trojan

Do you understand why Xpert doesn't likes theses forums because everyone in ren hates his fucking guts.

I don't care how many people hate me. Yay the world of C&C Renegade hates me!

First, where is this coming from that I "hate these forums"? When did I ever say that? I don't even remember a time I talked about RenForums. A have about 400 posts and I don't think I have posted 1 thing negative on these forums itself in like forever. But that doesn't matter now does it?

Trojan

He is a pathetic, poor, mcdonalds employed, piece of shit that hacks peoples facebook and emails because the said person posted a picture of xpert on the forums.

First off, where did get the information of me being poor? I'm not even near poor at all. I work at McDonalds. Are you implying all Mc. D employees are poor? For a side job, I get paid a lot of money there and it gave me college credits for my business classes in college. I'll take that even if it's from Mc. D. I do other things to make money but I don't have to discuss that since it is my life.

I messed with one person's facebook and automatically I hack the world. I only did it to Anthrax because he continuously fucks with me for the last 3 years and I needed to put a scare on him for him to piss off. I gave him his shit back and he knows how I did it. I even told him about Facebook having the worst security ever and it's been proven. Just Google it.

Trojan

Does THAT constitute hacking a password off IRC to make himself feel a bit better about his feeble self.

Again another lie. I didn't use IRC. Infact, I don't even know his password. If I used IRC, raven would know since he is a NetAdmin on my network and he can see the services channel.

Trojan

Please don't come on here and defend Xpert when you have no idea what has happened. You know his side of the story. You don't understand nor can you comprehend the situation and what has lead up to it.

No one knows my side of the story. And neither do you nor do you know what has lead up to all this. Stop being a hypocrite. You're just making assumptions based on what has happened so far.

shaitan

Notice how he wont refute anything. He is guilty as hell.
The reason I don't want to post stuff here is so it doesn't get out of hand. So just PM me or whatever.

It's already gotten out of hand.

shaitan

Xpert likes to read personal forum PMs(Mine, dippy, Rengirl, Armani, and others), steal passwords from the forums

Ok, let me get this shit clear about this whole PM reading thing, etc. These are Atomix's second forums. Our first ones were lost. I had a person named Hawk (some people know him on IRC as NotHawk or Tyler, or whatever other 1000 names he had), but I had him re-do the Atomix forums. Eventually I removed him for being inactive. Then a week before the incident in November, I was looking through the emails that's connected with my site info and I found messages from the forums. It was the forums sending me emails every time someone made a new one as if it was a PM to me. I freaked out. I knew it wasn't from IPB itself because I've had version 2.3.4 before and I never had that occur ever. So every time I got the messages, I would just delete them. Then that day came a week later where I was on a "rampage" due to an incident in my family. So a few people were on a revolt against me talking about making a new community and all that. So while reading emails, I got those PM messages again. I read 3 of them and only 3 of them. 1 was a PM sent from Armani to RenGirl and the other 2 were from Speedy to Dippy. Those 2 pms contained stuff about the whole "take over Atomix" whatever stuff. Long story short, that passed on, got stopped from there and things were resolved for now at that time. But I was still under heat about the pm reading. I don't feel good about it myself and I read them anyways. So I googled and looked around for awhile. I couldn't find a solution. So I upgraded the IPB to 2.3.6. By then I realized, it stopped. I didn't get the emails again. I will still under heat about the whole PM thing so I even told shai, I don't know where it comes from, and I remember sending a screenshot to someone about it to maybe help me find the problem. I even told Shai to ask Hero to look around the web stuff since he was our web admin at that time. To my understanding, nothing came up.

Now fast forward, this brings me to today, I went and talked to Hawk who happened to be on IRC. I asked him about it but I have a feeling he's lying so whatever.

Quote:

Session Start: Wed Apr 07 14:21:20 2010
Session Ident: NotHawk
[14:21:30] <Xpert> I have 2 questions for you
[14:21:40] <NotHawk> hm
[14:22:06] <Xpert> First one, when you first made these forums before I upgraded it myself, did you install something
[14:22:09] <Xpert> That sends me emails
[14:22:13] <Xpert> Of other people's PMs
[14:22:16] <Xpert> On those forums
[14:22:27] <NotHawk> no sir i never had time to mes with bs
[14:22:50] <Xpert> Are you sure, because you're the only one who was messing with the website when you were the Web Admin.
[14:23:03] <NotHawk> yes sir i know i didnt install nothin
[14:23:07] <Xpert> The site use to send me emails to my admin email account and it would be of other people's PMs
[14:23:18] <NotHawk> hmm thats weird
[14:23:35] <NotHawk> who else had ftp
[14:23:37] <Xpert> I deleted those emails because that shit is intrusive.
[14:23:45] <Xpert> Just you at THAT TIME.
[14:24:04] <NotHawk> Oh hm nah i didn't

So I'm gonna say it again, I can't read pms on these forums. And password stealing? I don't have that either. So you can hop off of me for that. If you want proof, look up IPB stuff on it. I came across this while googling:

Quote:

to generate the passwords, ipb generates an md5 hash of it, "salts" it, and then re-hashes the salt. the salt i beleive is stored in ibf_members_extra, but i am not sure. note: it is unique for each user
knowing what my own password was, i tried this via the SQL toolkit thing in IPB admin... just to see if i could get it to match. i ran the following query: SELECT md5(concat(md5('abcdefgh'),'#####'))
where 'abcdefgh' was my password that i knew and '#####' was the salt stored in the members_converge.converge_pass_salt field.
it did not match either the members.member_login_key or the members_converge.converge_pass_hash fields for my user...
ugh, i figured this would be a simple hash or hash and salt that i could duplicate, didn't expect to not be able to discover this...

Trojan

Best not to get more people involved in this drama.

The only people getting other people involved in this mess is the people who I booted or left Atomix.

We look like the bad guys here because we were the first to take action. This thing has been in works for ages. It's just now finally being executed just because everyone finally got booted.

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		Dont use Atomix forums! By: shaitan on Mon, 05 April 2010 19:24
		Re: Dont use Atomix forums! By: zeratul on Mon, 05 April 2010 19:26
		Re: Dont use Atomix forums! By: Xpert on Mon, 05 April 2010 19:31
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		Re: Dont use Atomix forums! By: Xpert on Mon, 05 April 2010 19:39
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