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| Re: Dont use Atomix forums! [message #425005 is a reply to message #424999] |
Wed, 07 April 2010 15:53   |
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HaTe
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Except I owned the box it was on when Ungy and I started it and took over baddog gaming. I wanted it back after multiply complaints of xperts nazi style leadership. And yea its an awesome mod copying half the features from TT and then completely failing when it lauched.
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Fail? It was being tested, and some memory leaks were occurring that had to be found, and still are. It didn't fail, it is still in progress.... It didn't copy anything from TT, if anything, it copied the old fnfall server, with much similar crates and gameplay...mixed with the old atomix mod as well.
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A persons life shapes there personality and adding all that together makes a big batch of fail.
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Just because someone is poor doesn't mean they're a bad person. If you honestly believe that, then i don't even know why i'm bothering to argue with you, because you are clearly lost.
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LOL you think because anthrax is a dick it justifies breaking federal internet laws?
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No. I didn't say he should of broke any laws. I just said that Anthrax deserved it (assuming it's even true), which he completely did. Though I would of gone at it differently.
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I can't believe you honestly think any one deserves there shit to be hacked for next to no reason at all.
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Why ask a question, then assume an answer? It's not next to no reason at all neither....the guy lives to torment people, and he's pathetic at it as well.
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Most of the people demodded held the community together in commwars and in game.
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Some played in commwars, yes. It's a sacrifice for a better community....and it's not like there isn't anyone to take their places anyways.
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And its funny that it is alive because of Campas mod. Campa who xpert forced out of the community.
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You are bringing up past events that really have nothing to do with this one...that was a completely different story.
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Nor have I with you, but when you attempt to slander my community don't expect a cookie and a pat on the back.
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I'm yet to say a word about your community.
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And sure I can see how you can support the guy who is hated renegade-wide because he gave u VIP in his cool server.
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LOL. Like i care about VIP. As i have said before: I would rather not be a mod than be a mod. I like to play care-free more than i like to play for responsibilities.
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Since you and Vultima seem to think every single thing was planned well in advance...I wonder why it's taking me so long now? It would have been done weeks ago if that was true.Huh
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I have no idea what you are talking about...post logs to prove your point, not release personal information. Release them if you want, i could care less....It really seems like you are attempting to make an ass out of someone who isn't...all because of a demod.
‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing’ - Edmund Burke
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| Re: Dont use Atomix forums! [message #425012 is a reply to message #424996] |
Wed, 07 April 2010 16:13 |
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| Dover wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 15:06 |
Give the logs! Damn the consequences! Do it or you're a pussy! etc etc
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Quoting self to show I mean business!
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
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| Re: Dont use Atomix forums! [message #425021 is a reply to message #425005] |
Wed, 07 April 2010 16:55 |
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| HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 16:53 |
Fail? It was being tested, and some memory leaks were occurring that had to be found, and still are. It didn't fail, it is still in progress.... It didn't copy anything from TT, if anything, it copied the old fnfall server, with much similar crates and gameplay...mixed with the old atomix mod as well.
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Half the shit on there was to be fixed by TT. They went ahead and tried to do it themselves and it lagged like complete shit.
| HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 16:53 |
Just because someone is poor doesn't mean they're a bad person. If you honestly believe that, then i don't even know why i'm bothering to argue with you, because you are clearly lost.
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I never said anything about his income. He obviously has no life outside of renegade and mcdonalds hence his personality the way it is now. No social skills and rage at the world cuz fail.
| HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 16:53 |
No. I didn't say he should of broke any laws. I just said that Anthrax deserved it (assuming it's even true), which he completely did. Though I would of gone at it differently.
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No one deserves that no matter that they do. Online life is different then in real life. You don't cross a like cuz someone hurt your eboner.
| HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 16:53 |
Why ask a question, then assume an answer? It's not next to no reason at all neither....the guy lives to torment people, and he's pathetic at it as well.
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So stooping below his level is cool then? Cuz two wrongs make a right.
| HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 16:53 |
Some played in commwars, yes. It's a sacrifice for a better community....and it's not like there isn't anyone to take their places anyways.
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They were going to leave anyways. Xpert found out a day or so before and claimed he has knew forever and they were all "puppets". Pretty Cool.
| HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 16:53 |
You are bringing up past events that really have nothing to do with this one...that was a completely different story.
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The mod running on atomix right now is campas.. so seems relevant to me.
| HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 16:53 |
I'm yet to say a word about your community.
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Yet you call one of the admin a liar?
| HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 16:53 |
LOL. Like i care about VIP. As i have said before: I would rather not be a mod than be a mod. I like to play care-free more than i like to play for responsibilities.
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Then quitting defending a community that u dont hold any responsibilities towards so u can be care free.
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| Re: Dont use Atomix forums! [message #425025 is a reply to message #425021] |
Wed, 07 April 2010 17:10 |
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HaTe
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Half the shit on there was to be fixed by TT. They went ahead and tried to do it themselves and it lagged like complete shit.
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They? It was Stewie.. The memory leaks weren't even coming from those fixes anyway...it was, and is a crate issue AFAIK. Either way, it was 1 person doing the job of many, and succeeding..
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I never said anything about his income.
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Wrong. You said this:
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He is a pathetic, poor, mcdonalds employed, piece of shit
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I'd call that judgmental.
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No social skills and rage at the world cuz fail.
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So far i've only seen you prove this about yourself.
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No one deserves that no matter that they do.
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He *supposedly* hacked into his emails and facebook, and changed the password. He then gave them back like 1.5 days later, after Anthrax had a huge fit about it. Sure it was illegal, but it's not like he committed murder or anything (like you are making it seem).
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So stooping below his level is cool then?
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Like i said, i would have done it differently, but at the same time, it's nice to see him finally learn his lesson.
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They were going to leave anyways.
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If that was true, then we wouldn't be having this conversation.
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Xpert found out a day or so before and claimed he has knew forever and they were all "puppets". Pretty Cool.
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He did know what they were saying behind his back, because he read their pm's on the forums...after being suspicious. That is why many of them are mad, they feel they were invaded....which is a bunch of shit, because they were the ones sneaking around starting shit.
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The mod running on atomix right now is campas..
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This conversation is not about the mod though. You are trying to make it about the mod, because you need something against Xpert...and cannot find anything better.
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Yet you call one of the admin a liar?
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Even if i did...i don't care. Calling one of your little admins a liar is not talking shit about your community, especially when the subject is about an entirely different topic, and community.
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Then quitting defending a community that u dont hold any responsibilities towards so u can be care free.
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Lol. I like to PLAY care free. We are not in game right now, and i will defend someone when i feel that they are being attacked wrongfully. That's just me. Deal with it.
‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing’ - Edmund Burke
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| Re: Dont use Atomix forums! [message #425026 is a reply to message #424801] |
Wed, 07 April 2010 17:30 |
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Hate you're an idiot, I already explained to you what happened, you decided that you had no idea what was going on and that I didn't deserve it, and now you're going to uncover that hatchet again? You really do need attention huh.
He hacked my e-mail and my facebook... made my status something about sucking penis etc which I don't really appreciate because I do have friends outside of the internet. But it's understandable that you'd know nothing about that. :/ He took my email and my facebook for about 3 days total. Which is quite a long time.
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| Re: Dont use Atomix forums! [message #425042 is a reply to message #424801] |
Wed, 07 April 2010 18:28 |
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| HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 18:10 |
He *supposedly* hacked into his emails and facebook, and changed the password. He then gave them back like 1.5 days later, after Anthrax had a huge fit about it. Sure it was illegal, but it's not like he committed murder or anything (like you are making it seem).
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| HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 18:10 |
He did know what they were saying behind his back, because he read their pm's on the forums...after being suspicious. That is why many of them are mad, they feel they were invaded....which is a bunch of shit, because they were the ones sneaking around starting shit.
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Thanks for that statement. As I said once they have the balls to deny what I said on a public forum, or keep crashing our server, then I will post those logs.
As for right now, this is Part 1(log portion) of what I told you all about with Anthrax's emails/facebook. You can scroll down on the ts3 log, to see the convos. Shinji = Xpert. I must say, TS3 blows at making logs.
I admit that first night on TS I was finding it funnyish...until I started talking with Anth, and seeing it for what it really was. We also chatted on the Exodus TS3, when I was calming him down and giving him some info on what he could do legally. Sorry, I didn't record.
In the zip there's the TS3 one, d|laptop=dippy, Trojan gave me his convo with Anthrax, my convo with Xpert the next day, and before I was banned I had all my PM's sent to my email, there's the screen shot of my hotmail.
Part 2 of will be the invisible topics Anthrax made that I didn't want him in more trouble for. It was when he was rightfully raging. Anthrax you are fucking famous now, may I get an autograph?
Now you can thank Dippy for me doing this much, by calling me a liar to others today(while I was out finding work). Call me a liar in public on the November PM reading incident please, then it's going to get nastier.
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I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
rejects I despise.
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| Re: Dont use Atomix forums! [message #425045 is a reply to message #425025] |
Wed, 07 April 2010 18:58 |
Trojan
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| HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 19:10 |
They? It was Stewie.. The memory leaks weren't even coming from those fixes anyway...it was, and is a crate issue AFAIK. Either way, it was 1 person doing the job of many, and succeeding..
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I'll wait til its actually up.
| HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 19:10 |
I'd call that judgmental.
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I am very judgmental and I am also very good at psychology and being poor does have a factor of who you are so let's try to know what we are talking about before posting.
| HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 19:10 |
So far i've only seen you prove this about yourself.
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Lol, Yea I have no social skills and I am SOOOOO angry. I gonna go flip cars like the hulk. Let's try to be more of a fucking retard.
| HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 19:10 |
He *supposedly* hacked into his emails and facebook, and changed the password. He then gave them back like 1.5 days later, after Anthrax had a huge fit about it. Sure it was illegal, but it's not like he committed murder or anything (like you are making it seem).
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He blatantly used the getpass command on irc for his own gain in a malicious form. Breaking more than one internet related law.
| HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 19:10 |
Like i said, i would have done it differently, but at the same time, it's nice to see him finally learn his lesson.
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He didn't learn shit. And tbh if he did that with me he would be dealing with a lawsuit.
| HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 19:10 |
If that was true, then we wouldn't be having this conversation.
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Considering I have had atomix players/mods coming up to me for weeks asking me when it would be up: I am pretty sure that voids the previous.
| HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 19:10 |
He did know what they were saying behind his back, because he read their pm's on the forums...after being suspicious. That is why many of them are mad, they feel they were invaded....which is a bunch of shit, because they were the ones sneaking around starting shit.
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So thats cools. Abusing his powers more by reading private messages. Also nothing was said in them. Everything was talked about on ts, irc, and msn. So nice fail.
| HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 19:10 |
This conversation is not about the mod though. You are trying to make it about the mod, because you need something against Xpert...and cannot find anything better.
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The list of the shit xpert has done and claimed to done is endless.
| HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 19:10 |
Even if i did...i don't care. Calling one of your little admins a liar is not talking shit about your community, especially when the subject is about an entirely different topic, and community.
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You had no grounds to call him a liar considering the log are there.
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| HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 19:10 |
Lol. I like to PLAY care free. We are not in game right now, and i will defend someone when i feel that they are being attacked wrongfully. That's just me. Deal with it.
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Well then in this case you not needed because this attack is not wrongful.
Lets not get so angry cuz your wrong hate.
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| Re: Dont use Atomix forums! [message #425046 is a reply to message #424801] |
Wed, 07 April 2010 19:16 |
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I don't see any logs. Carrier get the padlocks. >:[
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
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| Re: Dont use Atomix forums! [message #425047 is a reply to message #425046] |
Wed, 07 April 2010 19:19 |
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| Dover wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 20:16 |
I don't see any logs. Carrier get the padlocks. >:[
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Attachment: Anthraxs facebook incident.zip
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Look? 
| Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:38 |
I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
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| Re: Dont use Atomix forums! [message #425051 is a reply to message #425029] |
Wed, 07 April 2010 19:46 |
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| DRNG wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 19:44 |
Anthrax is the biggest fucking asshole I have ever met online. However still doesn't deserve to have his e-mail and facebook hacked.
Let's see those logs.
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I don't think I've ever talked to you, but thanks.
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| Re: Dont use Atomix forums! [message #425056 is a reply to message #424801] |
Wed, 07 April 2010 20:43 |
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Okay, done reading all this. I'll say it in my own words instead of other people posting for me or other people stirring up certain things farther than what it really is.
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Do you understand why Xpert doesn't likes theses forums because everyone in ren hates his fucking guts.
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I don't care how many people hate me. Yay the world of C&C Renegade hates me!
First, where is this coming from that I "hate these forums"? When did I ever say that? I don't even remember a time I talked about RenForums. A have about 400 posts and I don't think I have posted 1 thing negative on these forums itself in like forever. But that doesn't matter now does it?
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He is a pathetic, poor, mcdonalds employed, piece of shit that hacks peoples facebook and emails because the said person posted a picture of xpert on the forums.
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First off, where did get the information of me being poor? I'm not even near poor at all. I work at McDonalds. Are you implying all Mc. D employees are poor? For a side job, I get paid a lot of money there and it gave me college credits for my business classes in college. I'll take that even if it's from Mc. D. I do other things to make money but I don't have to discuss that since it is my life.
I messed with one person's facebook and automatically I hack the world. I only did it to Anthrax because he continuously fucks with me for the last 3 years and I needed to put a scare on him for him to piss off. I gave him his shit back and he knows how I did it. I even told him about Facebook having the worst security ever and it's been proven. Just Google it.
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Does THAT constitute hacking a password off IRC to make himself feel a bit better about his feeble self.
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Again another lie. I didn't use IRC. Infact, I don't even know his password. If I used IRC, raven would know since he is a NetAdmin on my network and he can see the services channel.
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Please don't come on here and defend Xpert when you have no idea what has happened. You know his side of the story. You don't understand nor can you comprehend the situation and what has lead up to it.
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No one knows my side of the story. And neither do you nor do you know what has lead up to all this. Stop being a hypocrite. You're just making assumptions based on what has happened so far.
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Notice how he wont refute anything. He is guilty as hell.
The reason I don't want to post stuff here is so it doesn't get out of hand. So just PM me or whatever.
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It's already gotten out of hand.
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Xpert likes to read personal forum PMs(Mine, dippy, Rengirl, Armani, and others), steal passwords from the forums
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Ok, let me get this shit clear about this whole PM reading thing, etc. These are Atomix's second forums. Our first ones were lost. I had a person named Hawk (some people know him on IRC as NotHawk or Tyler, or whatever other 1000 names he had), but I had him re-do the Atomix forums. Eventually I removed him for being inactive. Then a week before the incident in November, I was looking through the emails that's connected with my site info and I found messages from the forums. It was the forums sending me emails every time someone made a new one as if it was a PM to me. I freaked out. I knew it wasn't from IPB itself because I've had version 2.3.4 before and I never had that occur ever. So every time I got the messages, I would just delete them. Then that day came a week later where I was on a "rampage" due to an incident in my family. So a few people were on a revolt against me talking about making a new community and all that. So while reading emails, I got those PM messages again. I read 3 of them and only 3 of them. 1 was a PM sent from Armani to RenGirl and the other 2 were from Speedy to Dippy. Those 2 pms contained stuff about the whole "take over Atomix" whatever stuff. Long story short, that passed on, got stopped from there and things were resolved for now at that time. But I was still under heat about the pm reading. I don't feel good about it myself and I read them anyways. So I googled and looked around for awhile. I couldn't find a solution. So I upgraded the IPB to 2.3.6. By then I realized, it stopped. I didn't get the emails again. I will still under heat about the whole PM thing so I even told shai, I don't know where it comes from, and I remember sending a screenshot to someone about it to maybe help me find the problem. I even told Shai to ask Hero to look around the web stuff since he was our web admin at that time. To my understanding, nothing came up.
Now fast forward, this brings me to today, I went and talked to Hawk who happened to be on IRC. I asked him about it but I have a feeling he's lying so whatever.
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Session Start: Wed Apr 07 14:21:20 2010
Session Ident: NotHawk
[14:21:30] <Xpert> I have 2 questions for you
[14:21:40] <NotHawk> hm
[14:22:06] <Xpert> First one, when you first made these forums before I upgraded it myself, did you install something
[14:22:09] <Xpert> That sends me emails
[14:22:13] <Xpert> Of other people's PMs
[14:22:16] <Xpert> On those forums
[14:22:27] <NotHawk> no sir i never had time to mes with bs
[14:22:50] <Xpert> Are you sure, because you're the only one who was messing with the website when you were the Web Admin.
[14:23:03] <NotHawk> yes sir i know i didnt install nothin
[14:23:07] <Xpert> The site use to send me emails to my admin email account and it would be of other people's PMs
[14:23:18] <NotHawk> hmm thats weird
[14:23:35] <NotHawk> who else had ftp
[14:23:37] <Xpert> I deleted those emails because that shit is intrusive.
[14:23:45] <Xpert> Just you at THAT TIME.
[14:24:04] <NotHawk> Oh hm nah i didn't
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So I'm gonna say it again, I can't read pms on these forums. And password stealing? I don't have that either. So you can hop off of me for that. If you want proof, look up IPB stuff on it. I came across this while googling:
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to generate the passwords, ipb generates an md5 hash of it, "salts" it, and then re-hashes the salt. the salt i beleive is stored in ibf_members_extra, but i am not sure. note: it is unique for each user
knowing what my own password was, i tried this via the SQL toolkit thing in IPB admin... just to see if i could get it to match. i ran the following query: SELECT md5(concat(md5('abcdefgh'),'#####'))
where 'abcdefgh' was my password that i knew and '#####' was the salt stored in the members_converge.converge_pass_salt field.
it did not match either the members.member_login_key or the members_converge.converge_pass_hash fields for my user...
ugh, i figured this would be a simple hash or hash and salt that i could duplicate, didn't expect to not be able to discover this...
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| Trojan |
Best not to get more people involved in this drama.
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The only people getting other people involved in this mess is the people who I booted or left Atomix.
We look like the bad guys here because we were the first to take action. This thing has been in works for ages. It's just now finally being executed just because everyone finally got booted.
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