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mp3 noob question [message #422117] Fri, 12 March 2010 16:42 Go to next message
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what kind of cd am i supposed to burn mp3 songs onto?

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Re: mp3 noob question [message #422118 is a reply to message #422117] Fri, 12 March 2010 16:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've burned mp3 files onto any CD and it worked fine.... as far as illegal, i think as long as you don't distribute the music for money or free it should be fine

Re: mp3 noob question [message #422120 is a reply to message #422117] Fri, 12 March 2010 17:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Once you burn a disc it's done, no more adding to it like it's a usb for something.

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bakerrrr wrote on Fri, 12 March 2010 18:38

Once you burn a disc it's done, no more adding to it like it's a usb for something.

Did i misunderstand what he asked?


Re: mp3 noob question [message #422127 is a reply to message #422117] Fri, 12 March 2010 18:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Depends you can get overwrite-able cds or ROM software than can remove old content like a USB

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Re: mp3 noob question [message #422164 is a reply to message #422127] Sat, 13 March 2010 01:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sladewill wrote on Fri, 12 March 2010 19:11

Depends you can get overwrite-able cds or ROM software than can remove old content like a USB


And that does work for AUDIO CDs?? Never heard about that before Smile


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Re: mp3 noob question [message #422172 is a reply to message #422117] Sat, 13 March 2010 03:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CD-RW Wink

Though if you dont finalize a non-rewritable CD you can add data to it at a later moment Thumbs Up

EDIT: not an available option in some burning programs and only adding will work. To replace you really need RW's


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Omar007 wrote on Sat, 13 March 2010 04:25

CD-RW Wink

Though if you dont finalize a non-rewritable CD you can add data to it at a later moment Thumbs Up

EDIT: not an available option in some burning programs and only adding will work. To replace you really need RW's

I am talking about AUDIO ... not data. I never tried to not finalize a audio cd.


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renohol wrote on Fri, 12 March 2010 23:42

what kind of cd am i supposed to burn mp3 songs onto?

http://www.sevenforums.com/music-pictures-video/70549-mp3-noob-question.html

It depends on what device you are planning to use to play the music with. DVD-players can play music from a DVD, CD players only play CDs. It's not rocket science.
Re: mp3 noob question [message #422207 is a reply to message #422177] Sat, 13 March 2010 13:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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thanks


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Re: mp3 noob question [message #422218 is a reply to message #422173] Sat, 13 March 2010 15:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wiener wrote on Sat, 13 March 2010 12:45

Omar007 wrote on Sat, 13 March 2010 04:25

CD-RW Wink

Though if you dont finalize a non-rewritable CD you can add data to it at a later moment Thumbs Up

EDIT: not an available option in some burning programs and only adding will work. To replace you really need RW's

I am talking about AUDIO ... not data. I never tried to not finalize a audio cd.

Works exactly the same way. I said data but i just used that to make clear it applies to all 1 and 0 burned to the disc Razz

Unless your CD player is old and doesnt play non-finalized CD's this would apply, though when it is old then it would probably not even be able to play MP3 because of its age


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Re: mp3 noob question [message #422268 is a reply to message #422117] Sun, 14 March 2010 02:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But I didnt meant "mp3" data on disk but the mp3 files converted to AUDIO tracks. Would that still work?

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Well i think that would depend on the age of the player then so im not sure.

If it could also do MP3's it would most likely work as it would be a pretty 'new' player Thumbs Up
(in electronics new is already old after a week or so Razz)


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Re: mp3 noob question [message #422272 is a reply to message #422117] Sun, 14 March 2010 04:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I couldnt find anything on the web. I believe its not possible to even dont "finalize" an audio cd.

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Wiener wrote on Sun, 14 March 2010 05:34

I couldnt find anything on the web. I believe its not possible to even dont "finalize" an audio cd.

From what i remember i have done that before... but it did cause a few problems such as

Overwriting tracks(thats possible apparently and they had problems with mixed sounds)
Tracks not even working
Most CD players could not run the CD

I don't remember what type i used. But i do remember it was MP3 files and before adding worked fine in all CD players i don't think this is much help aside from saying it works(sort of)


Re: mp3 noob question [message #422326 is a reply to message #422117] Sun, 14 March 2010 12:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But you guys are aware that *.mp3 or *.wav or w/e are NOT AUDIO CD FORMAT? Of course it works with mp3 and such.

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Re: mp3 noob question [message #422335 is a reply to message #422117] Sun, 14 March 2010 15:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Its just another file format. They are all just 1's and 0's Huh

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But you do understand what I'm talking about... AUDIO is a NOT encoded format. The closest you can get is IBM/Windows wav which is 1 to 1 encoded. Everything else is even compressed data.

So I'm fairly save to say that you can not rewrite AUDIO CDs, right?


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Re: mp3 noob question [message #422369 is a reply to message #422117] Sun, 14 March 2010 23:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you just want to burn the file onto a disk I'd recommend a standard CD-R since they're relatively cheap, or CD-RW if you want to be able to make the CD blank again in-case you no longer want whatever is burnt on it and wanna reuse the CD for something else.

Or you can go a step further and use a DVD-R or DVD-RW instead, which contains like 6x space. There's a whole bunch of different types of DVD's though so I'm unsure which format is best to use...

If you really want to future-proof yourself there's the BD-R and BD-RE (Blu-Ray disks) but I think that's overkill and a waste of money.



As Wiener pointed out though, there are special disks specifically for audio playback such as DVD-A aka DVD-AUDIO
These are so you can listen to your music on commercial hardware dedicated to that purpose.
CD's are still the mainstream standard for audio disks by the way.

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Recordable Audio CD

The Recordable Audio CD is designed to be used in a consumer audio CD recorder. These consumer audio CD recorders use SCMS (Serial Copy Management System), an early form of digital rights management (DRM), to conform to the AHRA (Audio Home Recording Act). The Recordable Audio CD is typically somewhat more expensive than CD-R due to (a) lower volume and (b) a 3% AHRA royalty used to compensate the music industry for the making of a copy

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ReWritable Audio CD

The ReWritable Audio CD is designed to be used in a consumer audio CD recorder, which won't (without modification) accept standard CD-RW discs. These consumer audio CD recorders use the Serial Copy Management System (SCMS), an early form of digital rights management (DRM), to conform to the United States' Audio Home Recording Act (AHRA). The ReWritable Audio CD is typically somewhat more expensive than CD-RW due to (a) lower volume and (b) a 3% AHRA royalty used to compensate the music industry for the making of a copy.
Re: mp3 noob question [message #422373 is a reply to message #422117] Mon, 15 March 2010 01:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ah Wiener ment AUDIO as in a special CD type then???
I thought he ment the AUDIO file format xD

Though encoded or not has nothing to do with that Huh
Neither does the comparison with WAV or MP3 then...

If you mean the special CD type AUDIO, then im not sure you can add later when not finalizing.
If you ment the filetype AUDIO after all, then all i said before applies.


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Omar007 wrote on Mon, 15 March 2010 02:43



Though encoded or not has nothing to do with that Huh
Neither does the comparison with WAV or MP3 then...



It does.

the medium you burn it on is the same. There no difference between a special AUDIO CD (not DVD) or a normal CD apart from the quality.

If you burn it as AUDIO CD, your OS cannot copy the files. Windows shows them with a shortcut called *cda.
If you burn as mp3, ogg, wav w/e it stays a DATA disk and NOT AUDIO even If modern players can read those data.


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I can easily copy/paste audio files on my system...

And the quality depends on the original song


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doo, you can not copy paste audio unless you rip it or it has been encoded in advance

put in a audio cd you bought in a store, let windows read the disc, copy paste track01.cda, track02.cda.... remove the disc and voila, you can not play them... they're just short cuts to the disc Big Grin


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Personally I blame DRM crap for all this confusion... If everyone wasn't so concerned with preventing duplication of content things would be soooo much easier and compatibility wouldn't be such an issue.
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