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| THAT'S RACIST! [message #421547] |
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GEORGE ZIMMER
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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_MICHELLE_OBAMA_E_MAIL?SITE=ALMON&S ECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
So, TL;DR, guy who isn't a fan of Obama and his wife and such put out an e-mail with an attached picture comparing Michelle Obama to a chimpanzee. Naturally, people got pissed, and a few people ended contracts with the guy because of it.
I, for one, find this BULLSHIT. Yeah, it's a little immature, but it's political humor. Seriously, google "Bush monkey" or something similar, and you'll see tons of those. I've seen the whole "Bush looks like a monkey" routine EVERYWHERE. Comedians, late night talk show hosts, etc. You name it.
But the second you do it to Obama and/or his wife, it's wrong. I guarantee they were offended because OH NO! IT'S RACIST!
I'm fucking sick of this bullshit. Racism still exists- it's just that now you're not allowed to do anything or say anything bad about blacks.
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| Re: THAT'S RACIST! [message #421549 is a reply to message #421547] |
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Yea today ANYTHING you say against a black person is automatically racist now even if it is not intended racial or it doesnt even make sense to be racial. That is just stupid that people thought simple political humor was racist. and i searched "Bush Monkey" and found pictures comparing bush to a monkey that was not removed from any sites but when i searched "Michelle Obama Monkey" most of the pictures were removed from the original sites.
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| Re: THAT'S RACIST! [message #421552 is a reply to message #421547] |
Sat, 06 March 2010 20:00 |
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I don't know. It really depends on what types of contracts were ended and what his position was.
If he was some high level executive or something, then it makes sense that if someone saw it they would want to end a contract with him. It really doesn't have to be a racist issue...
While it is his right to put up whatever he wants to without censorship, it's also in the rights of the contract holders to end someone's contract for whatever reason.
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| Re: THAT'S RACIST! [message #421605 is a reply to message #421547] |
Sun, 07 March 2010 11:42 |
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| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Sat, 06 March 2010 19:15 |
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_MICHELLE_OBAMA_E_MAIL?SITE=ALMON&S ECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
So, TL;DR, guy who isn't a fan of Obama and his wife and such put out an e-mail with an attached picture comparing Michelle Obama to a chimpanzee. Naturally, people got pissed, and a few people ended contracts with the guy because of it.
I, for one, find this BULLSHIT. Yeah, it's a little immature, but it's political humor. Seriously, google "Bush monkey" or something similar, and you'll see tons of those. I've seen the whole "Bush looks like a monkey" routine EVERYWHERE. Comedians, late night talk show hosts, etc. You name it.
But the second you do it to Obama and/or his wife, it's wrong. I guarantee they were offended because OH NO! IT'S RACIST!
I'm fucking sick of this bullshit. Racism still exists- it's just that now you're not allowed to do anything or say anything bad about blacks.
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Just one difference. Comedians, late night talk show hosts, etc are people whose job it is to entertain people and this usually happens when they make fun of certain people.
If someone, who I had a business contract with, publicly made fun of the presidents wife I would also end that contract. Not because it is racist, not because I dislike it, but because it is unprofessional.
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| Re: THAT'S RACIST! [message #421615 is a reply to message #421605] |
Sun, 07 March 2010 13:02 |
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| JohnDoe wrote on Sun, 07 March 2010 04:15 |
It's obviously lame redneck racism...I wouldn't want to be associated with such an idiot, either.
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But if it was making fun of Bush or his wife, no one would care nearly as much. That's the point I'm trying to make here.
| SSADMVR wrote on Sun, 07 March 2010 12:42 |
Just one difference. Comedians, late night talk show hosts, etc are people whose job it is to entertain people and this usually happens when they make fun of certain people.
If someone, who I had a business contract with, publicly made fun of the presidents wife I would also end that contract. Not because it is racist, not because I dislike it, but because it is unprofessional.
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Yes, but for one, I haven't really seen them do a bit about Obama or his wife (yet) in a similar fashion. If they were, I GUARANTEE people would bitch about racism.
Like I said, yes it's immature, and I understand why someone would be a little uncomfortable from that aspect, but I just don't think that was the only reason. The guy even said "I didn't mean for it to be malicious, I just meant for it to be political humor". Which means that people didn't SEE IT as political humor, and saw it as- of course- racism  .
which is fucking bullshit.
Toggle Spoiler| Scrin wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 13:22 |
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FUCK YOU AND THIS SHIT GAME WITH YOUR SCRIPTS!!! I HAVE ASKING YOU AND ANOTHER NOOBS HERE ABOUT HELP WITH THAT BUILDING ICONS FEATURES FOR YEARS, BUT YOU KEEP IGNORING ME AND KEEP WRITE SHIT, SO BURN YOU AND YOUR ASSLICKERS FRIENDS, THIS TIME I'M NOT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!
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| Re: THAT'S RACIST! [message #421692 is a reply to message #421647] |
Mon, 08 March 2010 14:24 |
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GEORGE ZIMMER
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| liquidv2 wrote on Mon, 08 March 2010 00:26 |
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Sun, 07 March 2010 15:50 |
| surth? / surth! wrote on Sun, 07 March 2010 14:12 |
If you cant see how comparing a black person to a monkey could appear to be more racemotivated than comparing bush to a monkey...
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how is it more "racemotivated"
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because some people call black people monkeys as a racial slur
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Of course they do, but who the fuck cares? "Cracker" and "pinky" are apparently racial slurs towards whites. That doesn't mean I'm suddenly forbidden from saying the words "cracker" and "pinky" in the proper context. Wheras if you even remotely THINK of a black person as a monkey or compare them to it, AUTOMATICALLY RACIST.
Even if your intention was more towards "You're as stupid as a monkey" (Which can be said to ANY race, by the way). But yet it's only bad towards black?
No, fuck that shit.
Toggle Spoiler| Scrin wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 13:22 |
| cAmpa wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 12:45 |
Scrin, stop pming people to get the building bars.
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FUCK YOU AND THIS SHIT GAME WITH YOUR SCRIPTS!!! I HAVE ASKING YOU AND ANOTHER NOOBS HERE ABOUT HELP WITH THAT BUILDING ICONS FEATURES FOR YEARS, BUT YOU KEEP IGNORING ME AND KEEP WRITE SHIT, SO BURN YOU AND YOUR ASSLICKERS FRIENDS, THIS TIME I'M NOT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!
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| Re: THAT'S RACIST! [message #421726 is a reply to message #421692] |
Mon, 08 March 2010 23:37 |
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| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Mon, 08 March 2010 16:24 |
Of course they do, but who the fuck cares? "Cracker" and "pinky" are apparently racial slurs towards whites. That doesn't mean I'm suddenly forbidden from saying the words "cracker" and "pinky" in the proper context. Wheras if you even remotely THINK of a black person as a monkey or compare them to it, AUTOMATICALLY RACIST.
Even if your intention was more towards "You're as stupid as a monkey" (Which can be said to ANY race, by the way). But yet it's only bad towards black?
No, fuck that shit.
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You're right, it's an injustice, I agree. It's infuriating TBH.
However, I wouldn't want to put myself in the situation where I had to rely on that arguement, because everyone else is either too scared to say how it really is, or there thick as shit.
But you know if you said it at work you would end up in-front of a disciplinary board, and you'd be totally fucked. It's not right, but you know that's how it is these days. Political correctness gone mad!
Call me a coward if you like, but I would not test the arguement when my job was on the line, I have a family to support. This guy who sent that email should of had a bit more of a clue about the way of the world, however wrong it is...
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| Re: THAT'S RACIST! [message #421727 is a reply to message #421726] |
Mon, 08 March 2010 23:46 |
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| reborn wrote on Tue, 09 March 2010 00:37 |
You're right, it's an injustice, I agree. It's infuriating TBH.
However, I wouldn't want to put myself in the situation where I had to rely on that arguement, because everyone else is either too scared to say how it really is, or there thick as shit.
But you know if you said it at work you would end up in-front of a disciplinary board, and you'd be totally fucked. It's not right, but you know that's how it is these days. Political correctness gone mad!
Call me a coward if you like, but I would not test the arguement when my job was on the line, I have a family to support. This guy who sent that email should of had a bit more of a clue about the way of the world, however wrong it is...
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Yeah, I guess this is why we have the internet, eh? Good place to share what people really think.
I really wish that you COULD speak out publically, though. America especially- aren't we supposed to have a special piece of paper that let's us do so?
I just wish that people WOULD speak out about this sort of thing. It's never going to get better by ignoring it- so why DO we ignore it?
Toggle Spoiler| Scrin wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 13:22 |
| cAmpa wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 12:45 |
Scrin, stop pming people to get the building bars.
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FUCK YOU AND THIS SHIT GAME WITH YOUR SCRIPTS!!! I HAVE ASKING YOU AND ANOTHER NOOBS HERE ABOUT HELP WITH THAT BUILDING ICONS FEATURES FOR YEARS, BUT YOU KEEP IGNORING ME AND KEEP WRITE SHIT, SO BURN YOU AND YOUR ASSLICKERS FRIENDS, THIS TIME I'M NOT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!
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| Re: THAT'S RACIST! [message #421734 is a reply to message #421547] |
Tue, 09 March 2010 01:26 |
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I'm starting to believe black people when they whine about most whites still being closet racists...either that or there are more than a few people with Asperger's posting ITT.
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| Re: THAT'S RACIST! [message #421735 is a reply to message #421547] |
Tue, 09 March 2010 01:33 |
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I suppose allot of people see the worst in eachother, so when something like this appears, people make assumptions? The guy who wrote that email is just mis-understood.
Some people may just enjoy seeing others downfall, and when they see something that could be deemed as contentious, they stir it up.
But the largest contributing factor in my opinion as to why people believe this is racist, is the media.
As to why we allow this kind of political correctness gone mad bullshit to carry on, in my pesimistic view is that really we're all slaves to the system and too frightened to fight it, as we know we'll get no back-up from all the other frightened sheep.
It's not that no one cares, we just know that the fight aint fair.
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| Re: THAT'S RACIST! [message #421817 is a reply to message #421547] |
Wed, 10 March 2010 01:40 |
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As an American living in Germany I'm clearly sensible enough to African-American history in order to be aware of the blatant lowbrow racism, as any educated person should be. If you can't see how comparing the Harvard-educated wife of the first black president in US history visually to a monkey, which just so happens be a racial slur used by people who lynched blacks not too long ago, is racist, then I can only feel pity.
You obviously can only belong to four types of people: 1. Extremely sheltered and of low intelligence living in all-white region like North Dakota, which makes you ignorant to anything related to African-Americans; 2. A closet racist; 3. A troll; 4. Autistic.
From what I can tell, you're either a troll or a closet racist (which is why I didn't bother with a serious reply), but this Reborn guy is definitely not a troll, which makes this a lot more interesting.
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