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 Re: Fanboy Thread: Hero Class [message #419389 is a reply to message #419383] |
Sun, 07 February 2010 21:30   |
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GEORGE ZIMMER
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| BlueThen wrote on Sun, 07 February 2010 21:16 |
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Lol'd
I go with Thief/Rogue almost all the time, though. Especially if the game has good stealth/sneak mechanics.
Also, you left out Archer/General Ranged.
Toggle Spoiler| Scrin wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 13:22 |
| cAmpa wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 12:45 |
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| Re: Fanboy Thread: Hero Class [message #419398 is a reply to message #419396] |
Mon, 08 February 2010 00:04 |
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| Dover wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 01:20 |
I'm yet to see an RPG with an underpowered mage class.
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lol'd because it's true. Mages are always rigodamndiculously overpowered. OH LOL BUT THEY HAVE GLASS HEALTH! Yes that's such a weakness when nothing can hit them since they have ridiculous range, almost always have the best AoE attacks, and can easily stun/hold you off and make you fucking useless.
With the exception of maybe Mabinogi, but Mabinogi doesn't have classes, just skills.
Toggle Spoiler| Scrin wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 13:22 |
| cAmpa wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 12:45 |
Scrin, stop pming people to get the building bars.
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FUCK YOU AND THIS SHIT GAME WITH YOUR SCRIPTS!!! I HAVE ASKING YOU AND ANOTHER NOOBS HERE ABOUT HELP WITH THAT BUILDING ICONS FEATURES FOR YEARS, BUT YOU KEEP IGNORING ME AND KEEP WRITE SHIT, SO BURN YOU AND YOUR ASSLICKERS FRIENDS, THIS TIME I'M NOT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!
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| Re: Fanboy Thread: Hero Class [message #419400 is a reply to message #419398] |
Mon, 08 February 2010 01:20 |
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| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Sun, 07 February 2010 23:04 |
| Dover wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 01:20 |
I'm yet to see an RPG with an underpowered mage class.
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lol'd because it's true. Mages are always rigodamndiculously overpowered. OH LOL BUT THEY HAVE GLASS HEALTH! Yes that's such a weakness when nothing can hit them since they have ridiculous range, almost always have the best AoE attacks, and can easily stun/hold you off and make you fucking useless.
With the exception of maybe Mabinogi, but Mabinogi doesn't have classes, just skills.
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Traditionally, there's supposed to be a rock-paper-scissors relationship between the three archetypes (Fighter/Rogue/Mage). Mage blows up/disables/stuns/whatever fighters, rogues can sneak/out-burstdamage mages, fighters can out-tank/win in the long run against rogues. The problem comes with most RPGs not developing the sneaking/burst damage aspect of rogues enough, so mages have free reign to dominate things..
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| Re: Fanboy Thread: Hero Class [message #419403 is a reply to message #419400] |
Mon, 08 February 2010 03:08 |
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| Dover wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 02:20 |
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Sun, 07 February 2010 23:04 |
| Dover wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 01:20 |
I'm yet to see an RPG with an underpowered mage class.
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lol'd because it's true. Mages are always rigodamndiculously overpowered. OH LOL BUT THEY HAVE GLASS HEALTH! Yes that's such a weakness when nothing can hit them since they have ridiculous range, almost always have the best AoE attacks, and can easily stun/hold you off and make you fucking useless.
With the exception of maybe Mabinogi, but Mabinogi doesn't have classes, just skills.
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Traditionally, there's supposed to be a rock-paper-scissors relationship between the three archetypes (Fighter/Rogue/Mage). Mage blows up/disables/stuns/whatever fighters, rogues can sneak/out-burstdamage mages, fighters can out-tank/win in the long run against rogues. The problem comes with most RPGs not developing the sneaking/burst damage aspect of rogues enough, so mages have free reign to dominate things..
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Yeah, I don't mind an extended rock-paper-scissors effect with more classes, but most fail to do this. At the very least then, make it so every class has strengths and weaknesses to certain aspects of any other class- so it'd come down to who's more skillful. Which means, MMORPG's in general need to be a shitton more skill-based, and regular RPG's need somewhat intelligent AI.
Toggle Spoiler| Scrin wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 13:22 |
| cAmpa wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 12:45 |
Scrin, stop pming people to get the building bars.
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FUCK YOU AND THIS SHIT GAME WITH YOUR SCRIPTS!!! I HAVE ASKING YOU AND ANOTHER NOOBS HERE ABOUT HELP WITH THAT BUILDING ICONS FEATURES FOR YEARS, BUT YOU KEEP IGNORING ME AND KEEP WRITE SHIT, SO BURN YOU AND YOUR ASSLICKERS FRIENDS, THIS TIME I'M NOT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!
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| Re: Fanboy Thread: Hero Class [message #419542 is a reply to message #419538] |
Tue, 09 February 2010 14:54 |
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| IAmFenix wrote on Tue, 09 February 2010 15:41 |
Regardless that I cannot sincerely vote, Barbarian/Martial artist seems to be the same as Fighter, but Fighter is too broad a category.
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Yeah, I've always seen them as similar, really. Kind of an unnecessary separation IMO.
Toggle Spoiler| Scrin wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 13:22 |
| cAmpa wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 12:45 |
Scrin, stop pming people to get the building bars.
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FUCK YOU AND THIS SHIT GAME WITH YOUR SCRIPTS!!! I HAVE ASKING YOU AND ANOTHER NOOBS HERE ABOUT HELP WITH THAT BUILDING ICONS FEATURES FOR YEARS, BUT YOU KEEP IGNORING ME AND KEEP WRITE SHIT, SO BURN YOU AND YOUR ASSLICKERS FRIENDS, THIS TIME I'M NOT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!
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| Re: Fanboy Thread: Hero Class [message #419564 is a reply to message #419525] |
Tue, 09 February 2010 21:49 |
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| DRNG wrote on Tue, 09 February 2010 12:30 |
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Hammerdins are for pussies. Real men play chargers, or orb/lightning sorcs, or WW barbs. Anything else is wearing your vagina on your sleeve. >:[
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Dover got his butt kicked by Hammerdins with their harlequinn caps and SoJ's etc.. all through Diablo and is now mad because his Druid sucked.
Also, Vagina Sleeves are awesome.
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Nah, I have a Hammerdin, but they're EZ-mode. Hammerdins make Diablo EZPZ. I try not to use him.
| IAmFenix wrote on Tue, 09 February 2010 13:41 |
Regardless that I cannot sincerely vote, Barbarian/Martial artist seems to be the same as Fighter, but Fighter is too broad a category.
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They're different enough for D&D (The basis for all traditional Western RPGs, whether they care to admit it or not) to make the distinction.
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
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| Re: Fanboy Thread: Hero Class [message #419577 is a reply to message #419564] |
Wed, 10 February 2010 00:58 |
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| Dover wrote on Tue, 09 February 2010 22:49 |
They're different enough for D&D (The basis for all traditional Western RPGs, whether they care to admit it or not) to make the distinction.
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True, though their general playstyle is similar enough to the usual Fighter/Warrior class to be grouped together. I mean, if you were to take those choices off, you'd instantly got for Fighter/Warrior as the closest possible (and obviously, you can't list EVERY single class from every RPG...).
Toggle Spoiler| Scrin wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 13:22 |
| cAmpa wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 12:45 |
Scrin, stop pming people to get the building bars.
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FUCK YOU AND THIS SHIT GAME WITH YOUR SCRIPTS!!! I HAVE ASKING YOU AND ANOTHER NOOBS HERE ABOUT HELP WITH THAT BUILDING ICONS FEATURES FOR YEARS, BUT YOU KEEP IGNORING ME AND KEEP WRITE SHIT, SO BURN YOU AND YOUR ASSLICKERS FRIENDS, THIS TIME I'M NOT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!
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