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I'm curious [message #416395] Fri, 01 January 2010 05:20 Go to next message
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Let me sketch you a situation here.

The map is C&C_Field, it's a 12v12 match. All the players are experienced, have excellent teamplay, etc. GDI has just taken the field, but they haven't got a permanent hold yet, there are no hotties in the field, just three meds and two MRLS.
You are a med behind the comfort hill (At the edge of the river near the Nod bunker, should you ask) and Nod is trying to break out with 4 lights. They all head straight for your hill.
Now, do you:
1. Hold position, block them, screw them up as much as possible and focus fire with your teammates, after which you obviously die, but theoretically, your team holds the field.
2. Fall back behind the other hill, keep your med alive, rep up quickly, and hold the field by making sure there's more firepower by keeping your med alive, and theoretically, holding the field.

Which option do you pick, hold ground or retreat, and why?
Re: I'm curious [message #416396 is a reply to message #416395] Fri, 01 January 2010 05:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd hold ground. You'll prolly last longer staying there than trying to fall back, tx to good cover. Meanwhile the 8 others on your team might come back the team up.

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Re: I'm curious [message #416397 is a reply to message #416395] Fri, 01 January 2010 05:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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maybe fall back a little so the hotties have cover whilst u hold the lights then the rest of the team brings more firepower

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Re: I'm curious [message #416399 is a reply to message #416395] Fri, 01 January 2010 05:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SPIKDUM wrote on Fri, 01 January 2010 06:20

Let me sketch you a situation here.

The map is C&C_Field, it's a 12v12 match. All the players are experienced, have excellent teamplay, etc. GDI has just taken the field, but they haven't got a permanent hold yet, there are no hotties in the field, just three meds and two MRLS.
You are a med behind the comfort hill (At the edge of the river near the Nod bunker, should you ask) and Nod is trying to break out with 4 lights. They all head straight for your hill.
Now, do you:
1. Hold position, block them, screw them up as much as possible and focus fire with your teammates, after which you obviously die, but theoretically, your team holds the field.
2. Fall back behind the other hill, keep your med alive, rep up quickly, and hold the field by making sure there's more firepower by keeping your med alive, and theoretically, holding the field.

Which option do you pick, hold ground or retreat, and why?

1. 2 is just dumb, you'll die even quicker if you leave the hill.


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Re: I'm curious [message #416403 is a reply to message #416395] Fri, 01 January 2010 07:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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option 1
coz you`ll die faster, if you left your cover.
unless you can fall back to the barrn, using the hill as cover.
but option 1 is still the better try.
Re: I'm curious [message #416404 is a reply to message #416395] Fri, 01 January 2010 08:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Option one, slowly retreating as I go along to try and give any hotwires cover, and allowing my teamates to cover me as well as me being able to cover them. Straight up falling back and then jumping out to repair is pretty dumb, especially when it's 12v12 when there'll probably be snipers.

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Re: I'm curious [message #416406 is a reply to message #416404] Fri, 01 January 2010 08:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It'd be dumb if the lights headed towards the covered med in the first place, they'll be picked off faster, and won't be able to hit you with every shot. If the light tanks were experienced players, they would go for the tank most in open in the first place..

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secret option number 3, hit the right mouse button and blow em all to hell.

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HaTe wrote on Fri, 01 January 2010 09:51

It'd be dumb if the lights headed towards the covered med in the first place, they'll be picked off faster, and won't be able to hit you with every shot. If the light tanks were experienced players, they would go for the tank most in open in the first place..

Obviously, but we can assume this is in a situation where the enemy team is retarded enough to head out with only 4 lights...


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Re: I'm curious [message #416412 is a reply to message #416395] Fri, 01 January 2010 10:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I did say GDI had JUST taken the field. They have not yet repped up, and not everyone is in their proper positions yet. Let's just assume that the mrls are still near the GDI base entrance, and the other two meds are taking up positions at the waterfall and the barn, but they're still not across the river, Nod sees an opportunity and takes it.
Re: I'm curious [message #416420 is a reply to message #416412] Fri, 01 January 2010 11:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SPIKDUM wrote on Fri, 01 January 2010 11:38

I did say GDI had JUST taken the field. They have not yet repped up, and not everyone is in their proper positions yet. Let's just assume that the mrls are still near the GDI base entrance, and the other two meds are taking up positions at the waterfall and the barn, but they're still not across the river, Nod sees an opportunity and takes it.

In that case, i highly doubt 4 light tanks will kill 1 med, when there is another 2 meds and mrls covering him as well. As soon as the med is almost dead, all he needs to do is get out and repair himself, until the light tanks are dead, or near enough to death. Then the techs/engi's will be like killing basic inf with a jet hugging (easy).


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Re: I'm curious [message #416630 is a reply to message #416407] Sun, 03 January 2010 18:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ImJamie wrote on Fri, 01 January 2010 10:02

secret option number 3, hit the right mouse button and blow em all to hell.


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Re: I'm curious [message #416649 is a reply to message #416395] Mon, 04 January 2010 00:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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12v12 ... doubt that defence is an option in any situation. With so many players you just move forward IMO

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Re: I'm curious [message #417677 is a reply to message #416412] Fri, 15 January 2010 13:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SPIKDUM wrote on Fri, 01 January 2010 11:38

I did say GDI had JUST taken the field. They have not yet repped up, and not everyone is in their proper positions yet. Let's just assume that the mrls are still near the GDI base entrance, and the other two meds are taking up positions at the waterfall and the barn, but they're still not across the river, Nod sees an opportunity and takes it.


That's retarded. The mrls SHOULD be near the GDI entrance as the lights are rushing (so really they ARE in position). They can deal an enormous amount of damage from there to the emerging lights and continually whore the harvester fucking up nods chances of winning even more. They would be forcing nod to have to take the field to recover points, and also in a position to discover and block any little stankies that attempt to sneak through. For this reason I would camp the hill and hold my ground hoping the mrls can 6loK ;p

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Re: I'm curious [message #418059 is a reply to message #417677] Wed, 20 January 2010 07:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EaZiE wrote on Fri, 15 January 2010 14:10

SPIKDUM wrote on Fri, 01 January 2010 11:38

I did say GDI had JUST taken the field. They have not yet repped up, and not everyone is in their proper positions yet. Let's just assume that the mrls are still near the GDI base entrance, and the other two meds are taking up positions at the waterfall and the barn, but they're still not across the river, Nod sees an opportunity and takes it.


That's retarded. The mrls SHOULD be near the GDI entrance as the lights are rushing (so really they ARE in position). They can deal an enormous amount of damage from there to the emerging lights and continually whore the harvester fucking up nods chances of winning even more. They would be forcing nod to have to take the field to recover points, and also in a position to discover and block any little stankies that attempt to sneak through. For this reason I would camp the hill and hold my ground hoping the mrls can 6loK ;p

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An MRLS at the entrance will get killed in no-time because it's in the open, it either needs to be behind the GDI side hill or around the Tib field so it can hide behind the barn when getting shot at.
Re: I'm curious [message #418422 is a reply to message #416395] Mon, 25 January 2010 04:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I stand by my original statement. The entrance to gdis base is the best place for a mrl on field for the purpose of:
1) Harv whoring
2) Dealing damage to enemy vehicles
3) Discovering and blocking stank rushes.

You may argue that havocs would sit on them? That's why theyre at the entrance where they can be teched, whilst the tech remains behind cover, or have cover to rep themselves away from the field.


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Re: I'm curious [message #418423 is a reply to message #416395] Mon, 25 January 2010 04:40 Go to previous message
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agree and add 4) keep an eye on tunnels/mines to defend against nukers, walljumpers and (side-tunnel) harv walkers

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