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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415967 is a reply to message #415966] Mon, 28 December 2009 14:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spoony wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 16:18

it certainly is going nowhere. you keep saying things like "simpee's only banned for arguing with you", which only goes to show you either haven't read the ban announcement or haven't understood it.

let me illustrate it

*jelly bans someone from jelly-server for racism*
spoony: he didn't base to base
jelly: i didn't say he did, he said some racist stuff
spoony: he didn't base to base and he's played 400 games this month
jelly: i don't care how many games he's played, he shouldn't be racist
spoony: but he didn't base to base and he's played a lot of games this month
jelly: hello? is this plugged in...?


Poor analogy.

If he's ingame, and breaks a server rule he'd get kicked for breaking a server rule, ie the guy is ingame.

If he said it on our forum, he'd get muted on the forum.

If he said it here, I'd do nothing.

Key here is, he is actually in the server.

No idea what you were trying to prove with this.
Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415968 is a reply to message #415966] Mon, 28 December 2009 14:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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eh?

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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415969 is a reply to message #415967] Mon, 28 December 2009 14:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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question. i'd like mike to answer this too.

hypothetical: let's say that after what simpee and clear did, i just decided to say fuck the clanwars community and leave the league dead (i have seriously considered doing just that, quite a few times). would you be bitching at them right now for killing the league?

another question. you've seen me make my repeated offer to both simpee and clearshot. i haven't asked much. 1: an sincere apology for everything they've done. 2: honest and decent behaviour from then on.

you've seen them reject the offer; if you read clanwars you've seen clearshot carry on lying to the community making it even worse for himself.

now, if these are really active players the league needs... then don't you have anything bad to say about them for turning the offer down? all they have to do is something they should be doing in the first place. given the choice of behaving honestly and respectfully for the first time ever, they'd rather carry on lying to everybody and attacking me, just to achieve... uh what, exactly?

anyone who pretends they care about the league's activity ought to be telling them to just suck up their feeble pride. take a look at them. they could play again quite simply; all they've got to do is stop lying to everybody. their response: carry on, in the knowledge that i won't unban him.

i'm the one killing the league, am i?


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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415970 is a reply to message #415880] Mon, 28 December 2009 14:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Don't fret it, Spoony. Just have more of an iron fist with these retards and they'll stop being assholes, I'm sure.

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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415971 is a reply to message #415880] Mon, 28 December 2009 14:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I really can't be bothered with your hypothesis, nobody apologises on the internet, I'd never ask nor expect anyone to apologise.

This has gone as far is it will go, silly analogies and trying to get me to hypothesize about things show that.

Like I say, we both made our points, we don't agree.

Lets agree to leave it at that.

Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415972 is a reply to message #415970] Mon, 28 December 2009 14:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 16:43

Don't fret it, Spoony. Just have more of an iron fist with these retards and they'll stop being assholes, I'm sure.


Sorry, do you know me?
Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415974 is a reply to message #415971] Mon, 28 December 2009 14:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jellybe4n wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 15:44

I really can't be bothered with your hypothesis

it was very nearly an actual.

people are outraged at the thought of simpee and clear leaving because, after the unbelievable way they acted, i smacked them down for it.

the thought of me leaving because of being on the other end? nobody gives a shit.

am i getting this point across? it's extremely difficult to take people like mike seriously, people who pretend they care about "skilled, active players" leaving, people who pretend they care about the league's activity. when you show them a MUCH BETTER example of someone they ought to be sticking up for and someone else they ought to be criticising, they're either nowhere to be seen or criticising the victim.


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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415975 is a reply to message #415972] Mon, 28 December 2009 15:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jellybe4n wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 15:45

GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 16:43

Don't fret it, Spoony. Just have more of an iron fist with these retards and they'll stop being assholes, I'm sure.


Sorry, do you know me?

If I spent several years knowing you and still came to the same conclusion, would it make a difference? To me, it'd actually be rather bad to come to the conclusion that you're right solely because I DO know you (hypothetically speaking, that is). A good argument that does not make.

Instead, I'm supporting Spoony, who I know just as much as you. Not based on simple minded things such as "well I've known him for awhile", but rather I support him due to the fact that I legitimately believe he's not in the wrong. Hell, go ahead and browse the history on these forums- I've had a few debates/arguments with Spoony about random shit, so that hardly means I'm suddenly his greatest friend as I'm sure you'll claim (which I find funny people would resort to a stupid claim like that, considering you're just as happy to imply I should get to know you better).

TL;DR: I don't have to know you to tell you that you're fucking wrong.

by the way, that original comment wasn't exactly directed at you- more or less directed at simpee and the like, but hey.


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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415987 is a reply to message #415975] Mon, 28 December 2009 16:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You guys and your hypothetical questions that have nothing to do with the topic, other than to change the subject to get the target of your back. Never seizes to amaze me.

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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #416001 is a reply to message #415880] Mon, 28 December 2009 18:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #416040 is a reply to message #416001] Tue, 29 December 2009 09:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just look how many hypothetical questions are answered with another hypothetical question...most of which change the topic entirely.

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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #416042 is a reply to message #415880] Tue, 29 December 2009 09:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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hey jelly whats up buddy

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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #416044 is a reply to message #415880] Tue, 29 December 2009 09:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's spoony's deal. If he wants to suspend him he is welcome to. After that I really don't see why it is any ones business but his and Simpee (who ever that is).

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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #416061 is a reply to message #415974] Tue, 29 December 2009 11:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spoony wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 21:52



people are outraged at the thought of simpee and clear leaving because, after the unbelievable way they acted, i smacked them down for it.



I think most people are just unhappy about you banning the two most active players over personal issues.


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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #416062 is a reply to message #416061] Tue, 29 December 2009 11:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nune wrote on Tue, 29 December 2009 12:31

Spoony wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 21:52



people are outraged at the thought of simpee and clear leaving because, after the unbelievable way they acted, i smacked them down for it.



I think most people are just unhappy about you banning the two most active players over personal issues.

i was not talking about now. i was talking about a couple of months ago. i was giving them a piece of my mind after what they did on jelly, and people like mike were leaping to their defence. sure their behaviour was absolutely appalling, sure they had been lying to the community right from the beginning and still were (and still are now), but spoony, the point is you should not hurt their feelings by saying so because they may leave the league.

so i ask: why was nobody telling THEM that their UNBELIEVABLE bullshit might make me leave the league? (because that was very nearly the case. i very nearly decided that the clanwars community was not worth my time). and this has proven to be a very inconvenient question so far.


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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #416065 is a reply to message #415880] Tue, 29 December 2009 12:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Had I known about that shit (I generally don't visit jelly forums or the like), I'd have most likely come to your defense. Sucks to hear.

Really though, can you guys not come up with a better reason for him NOT to be banned off of cw.cc other than "well he shouldn't be"..?


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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #416069 is a reply to message #416065] Tue, 29 December 2009 12:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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He's one of the most active members, and has been for a long time?

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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #416071 is a reply to message #416069] Tue, 29 December 2009 13:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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really? ask him how many clanwars he played in the year or so when i was away. no spoonys to worry about, and no horrible pointsfix either. so what did he do? play in tempozia's server against loki.

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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #416072 is a reply to message #416071] Tue, 29 December 2009 13:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spoony, since you may have overseen my post on cw.cc, Ill ask again: can you link me to the jelly thread you keep mentioning please? Smile


also: who in TC has msn in case i want to lose some cws?

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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #416076 is a reply to message #416072] Tue, 29 December 2009 14:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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surth? / surth! wrote on Tue, 29 December 2009 14:50

Spoony, since you may have overseen my post on cw.cc, Ill ask again: can you link me to the jelly thread you keep mentioning please? Smile

http://jelly-server.com/forums/index.php?/topic/12580-thoughts-on-the-ladder/

the quotes don't work now cos they changed the forum system since then. i also remember a couple of other threads on the same subject after that one got locked

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also: who in TC has msn in case i want to lose some cws?

ask hitman or mrc for games. also tunaman and jimbo are in tc but are on less often.


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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #416078 is a reply to message #415880] Tue, 29 December 2009 14:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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so that was the right thread after all.

anyway, i'm not gonna bother debating this, because the damage is already done. I doubt either of them will come back even if you changed your position so theres no real point to that. shame because no matter what, they were active players and the league isnt really going that well.


what timezone does TC usually play?



Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #416082 is a reply to message #416078] Tue, 29 December 2009 15:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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surth? / surth! wrote on Tue, 29 December 2009 15:29

anyway, i'm not gonna bother debating this, because the damage is already done.

yes, but i've given them plenty of opportunities to make up for it. they'd rather not.

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I doubt either of them will come back even if you changed your position so theres no real point to that.

you got that a little upside down. all they need to do to get unbanned is -a- apologise for everything they've done and -b- act honestly and decently from then on. not a lot to ask, but they can't even manage that. that is everyone else's cue to finally see them for what they are (at least, you'd think so... but then, you'd think everyone would have been able to see simpee's colours by now. he's certainly shown them often enough)

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what timezone does TC usually play?

whenever.


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Since you keep bringing me up and " Tempozias server".. I am the owner of Lemon-funwars retard.. Fuck you spoony im gonna kill u

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