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I know that me and simpee don't along that well, but Spoony you suspending him over an out of game issue, is really dumb. It's not like he abused glitches or point pushed. I mean on the forums I think everyone has the right to express their opinion. Clanwars.cc is for playing renegade, and that's why he was there, to play renegade. Here's a place where fellow renegaders can chat and express their opinions on certain issues. You suspended him from playing clanwars for expressing his opinions on a online forum. I think if you were to suspend him, he should of done something wrong that had something to with clanwars.. Sorry Spoony but this really makes no sense, and makes you look like a angry douche. If you're an admin you have to know that you are the peoples leader, you can't get mad and suspend them if they make you mad on a forum.

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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415881 is a reply to message #415880] Mon, 28 December 2009 10:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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hurf hurf durf derpa durr we're gonna keep pressuring spoony and do retarded things to piss him off

OH NO HE SUSPENDED US FROM SOMETHING HE OWNS

QUICKLY LET'S COMPLAIN ABOUT IT


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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415884 is a reply to message #415880] Mon, 28 December 2009 10:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I know you're Spoonys friend, but does it really make sense to you?

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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415885 is a reply to message #415884] Mon, 28 December 2009 10:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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resistor1 wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 11:24

I know you're Spoonys friend, but does it really make sense to you?

Yes, considering his history with Spoony, I totally understand it.

also I'm not Spoony's friend, I just defend logical choices and people who aren't fucking retarded.


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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415887 is a reply to message #415880] Mon, 28 December 2009 10:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I can see like how they fight on the forums, but I think that Clanwars stuff should be kept with clanwars. Simpee doesn't agree with Spoony, so he goes and suspends him from the league..? Keep the beef on renegade forums, Some people will be assholes, but when they are playing renegade they play because it's fun. He didn't do anything wrong in clanwars.. Tbh I really didn't think Spoony would do something like this..

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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415889 is a reply to message #415880] Mon, 28 December 2009 10:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I can see like how he plays alone, but I think that cheating should be kept with single player. Loki can't win in clanwars, so he goes and takes them to multiplayer..? Keep the hax on campaigns, Some people will be assholes, but when they are playing renegade they at least don't use rgh. He didn't do anything fair playing in clanwars.. Tbh I really didn't think Loki would do something like this..

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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415891 is a reply to message #415880] Mon, 28 December 2009 10:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The NFL suspends players for breaking laws outside of American Football games. It's Spoony's league. If Spoony doesn't like the image you are giving his league, he has every right to suspend you from it.
Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415894 is a reply to message #415889] Mon, 28 December 2009 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SPIKDUM wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 12:36

I can see like how he plays alone, but I think that cheating should be kept with single player. Loki can't win in clanwars, so he goes and takes them to multiplayer..? Keep the hax on campaigns, Some people will be assholes, but when they are playing renegade they at least don't use rgh. He didn't do anything fair playing in clanwars.. Tbh I really didn't think Loki would do something like this..


If you're going to go off-topic and turn my thread into a flamewar, stay the fuck out prick.


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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415899 is a reply to message #415887] Mon, 28 December 2009 10:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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resistor1 wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 11:31

I can see like how they fight on the forums, but I think that Clanwars stuff should be kept with clanwars. Simpee doesn't agree with Spoony, so he goes and suspends him from the league..? Keep the beef on renegade forums, Some people will be assholes, but when they are playing renegade they play because it's fun. He didn't do anything wrong in clanwars.. Tbh I really didn't think Spoony would do something like this..

because simpee hasn't done anything wrong, right?
idiot


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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415900 is a reply to message #415894] Mon, 28 December 2009 10:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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resistor1 wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 11:39

SPIKDUM wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 12:36

I can see like how he plays alone, but I think that cheating should be kept with single player. Loki can't win in clanwars, so he goes and takes them to multiplayer..? Keep the hax on campaigns, Some people will be assholes, but when they are playing renegade they at least don't use rgh. He didn't do anything fair playing in clanwars.. Tbh I really didn't think Loki would do something like this..


If you're going to go off-topic and turn my thread into a flamewar, stay the fuck out prick.


I was actually making a point with that.
Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415901 is a reply to message #415900] Mon, 28 December 2009 10:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i'll ask loki the same question i've asked simpee, and his cronies at clanwars, and myself. so far nobody has come up with an answer.

i've done nothing wrong to simpee, ever. indeed i've done him nothing but favours - nobody else could be bothered hosting a clanwar league for him.
he behaves absolutely appallingly towards me in return. endlessly attacking, endlessly lying to the community to try to make me look bad, tried sabotaging my ladder projects twice, broke many rules to try to get an advantage, enormous number of AR's (unreported clanwars), let convicted cheaters sneak into his clan then endlessly flames me when he gets caught, etc etc etc etc etc....

...so here's the question. when person A behaves so appallingly as that towards person B who's never done them wrong, why should person B carry on doing person A any favours?


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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415902 is a reply to message #415880] Mon, 28 December 2009 11:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spoony, based on your reasoning, why didn't you have him banned right when the league started? You said in the beginning, when someone brought it up, that you'd let clear and simpee play in your league if they could play fair...and they've been playing fair for 2 months now. Why change your mind all of a sudden?

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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415904 is a reply to message #415902] Mon, 28 December 2009 11:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 12:07

Spoony, based on your reasoning, why didn't you have him banned right when the league started? You said in the beginning, when someone brought it up, that you'd let clear and simpee play in your league if they could play fair...and they've been playing fair for 2 months now. Why change your mind all of a sudden?

what do you mean change my mind? this is completely consistent with what i said.

i said if they can just play the game instead of the DESPICABLE behaviour they were showing at the time, we wouldn't have any problems.

they couldn't even manage that. this is not changing my mind. this is sticking to my original assertion that they are not capable of behaving with the bare minimum of honesty and decency i expect.

answer this question.
even after the ban, i've made the same offer i made before it. they only need to do two things. 1. apologise for their UNBELIEVABLE behaviour. 2. behave decently and honestly from then on.

they can't even do that.

so, -a- am i asking too much there? or -b- are you beginning to see them for what they are?


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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415905 is a reply to message #415880] Mon, 28 December 2009 11:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What "DESPICABLE" behavior did they shown recently that made you decide to ban them NOW?

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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415906 is a reply to message #415905] Mon, 28 December 2009 11:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sigh

come back when you've read the thread explaining the ban.

with simpee, the word "continuous" springs to mind.


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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415907 is a reply to message #415880] Mon, 28 December 2009 11:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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...............................
I did..clearly im not bright enough to understand it; please explain it to me here, more clearly. you have no problem typing longer posts, so this shouldn't be a bother for you.


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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415908 is a reply to message #415880] Mon, 28 December 2009 11:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I really have no clue how Spoony has the patience for these guys. It's mind blowing.

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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415910 is a reply to message #415887] Mon, 28 December 2009 11:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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resistor1 wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 11:31

but I think that Clanwars stuff should be kept with clanwars.


I completely agree and so with that being said, let's lock this thread. Big Grin


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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415911 is a reply to message #415907] Mon, 28 December 2009 11:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 12:26

...............................
I did..clearly im not bright enough to understand it; please explain it to me here, more clearly. you have no problem typing longer posts, so this shouldn't be a bother for you.

i've got a question for YOU instead.

you remember when simpee and clearshot did the UNBELIEVABLY pathetic thing they did on the jelly forum? of course you do. you knew every word they said was a lie, you knew i was telling the truth, but you didn't say so and it would have been lovely if you did.

well, when i stuck up for myself, you criticised ME for doing so. apparently if i was mean to them for what they did, they'd leave the league.

let me tell you - i have often considered abandoning the league because of episodes like this and the community's reaction to them. i have often thought that the clanwars community is simply not worth my time.

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oh, another thing ought to be explained.

it took a bit of persuasion to get me to come back to clanwars and revive the community in the first place, plus i've thought a few times that i may have been wasting my time. case in point: what simpee and clearshot did on the jelly forum, and the community's reaction to it. (i.e. two idiots telling a huge list of lies about an honest, fair player because they wanted to sabotage my ladder project unless i used their point mod. nobody said anything bad about what they did, but not only that, the community flamed me because i actually stuck up for myself and smacked them down).

episodes like that occasionally make me think the community isn't worth my time running this league. (an extremely similar situation, namely soul and the photoshopped ss's, was why i quit several years ago)

anyway i'm resisting the urge to just **** off and leave the league dead again. instead i'm just going to remove the bad apples, starting with simpee. much better solution all round.

those players who are honest, sportsmanlike and play by the rules have absolutely nothing to worry about, and never did. the league will favour those types of players, even if the community doesn't.

anyway, at this point it would seem appropriate if you took my side against simpee and clearshot. after all, much more of their bullshit and i'd probably just leave. and since i'm a much fairer and more honest player than either of them, not to mention the admin, what a terrible thing that would be for the league.

so why didn't you? and why don't you now?


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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415912 is a reply to message #415908] Mon, 28 December 2009 11:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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andr3w282 wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 12:28

I really have no clue how Spoony has the patience for these guys. It's mind blowing.

Best post in this thread.


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i liked it.

simpee's list of offences against me is absolutely astonishing; the wonder is that my patience with him has lasted so long.


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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415914 is a reply to message #415880] Mon, 28 December 2009 11:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Please don't bring up that thread again, all I want to know is what have they done recently to warrant a ban. If you can't tell me, then it's obvious you woke up this morning and decided you want to ban them for incidents 6 months ago.

I'll answer your question when you answer mine.


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Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 12:51

Please don't bring up that thread again, all I want to know is what have they done recently to warrant a ban. If you can't tell me, then it's obvious you woke up this morning and decided you want to ban them for incidents 6 months ago.

I'll answer your question when you answer mine.

I dunno, waking up one day and deciding to ban a prick you should have done a long time ago seems perfectly fine with me.


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Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 12:51

Please don't bring up that thread again

it's pretty damning, is it? And not just to those two, but to you as well.

If you didn't defend the fair, honest player back then, it's IMPOSSIBLE to take your concerns seriously now.

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all I want to know is what have they done recently to warrant a ban. If you can't tell me, then it's obvious you woke up this morning and decided you want to ban them for incidents 6 months ago.

read the thread again, it's a pretty comprehensive list. simpee carries on attacking me endlessly, ENDLESSLY lying to the community to try to make me look bad, STILL flaming me for catching him letting convicted cheaters back into his clan years ago (and making new lies to try to absolve it)

and yet i gave him warning after warning after warning after warning after warning, all of which he ignored and carried on lying to attack me instead.

now answer my question: why didn't you stick up for the fair, honest player who was under attack, realising what a terrible thing it would be for the league if i just said fuck it and left? as i strongly considered doing many, many times, and am considering doing now?

so far it's looking as if you don't value "fair players" anywhere near as much as you pretend to. you're not the first person i've pressed on this point and you're not the first person who's been completely stumped by it.


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Re: Spoony suspending Simpee [message #415919 is a reply to message #415880] Mon, 28 December 2009 12:16 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Saying simpee and clear aren't fair players is a joke. Not saying you're not Spoony, because you clearly are, but so are they. And so am I. so don't go off saying I don't know anything about fair play, or recognizing fair players.
so, you banned him for your league for not being mean to you, glad that's cleared up. Not saying he wasn't insulting you, but you guys always go back and forth so i feel like you're both at fault for that. It just so happens you have the power to ban him. Alright; i personally don't agree with, and most people will not agree with it, but it's your league.

anyway, I didn't 'defend' simpee and clear in the forum, I kind of attacked you, because all you did was bring up the same thing over and over and over again, well after they had finished posting. Most people don't want the point fix, and you continued to bring it up, and it got annoying. So sorry if I hurt your feelings there. It got old. Happy?

At least you don't have to leave the league to die by itself now, you've killed it yourself.


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