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Re: Pointsfix debate - cleared - I plaid guilty :( [message #414380 is a reply to message #414363] Thu, 17 December 2009 20:01 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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HaTe wrote on Thu, 17 December 2009 17:49

Well, about the infantry shooting tanks thing, usually a heavy armored tank will easily kill an infantry unit, so the infantry unit needs something to get out of defending himself from the tank, points will work.

that's just downright stupid.

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I suppose maybe that is what EA and Westwood were thinking?

it's been proven again and again and again that westwood did not intend the point mod to exist.

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It's more logic that what your fake logs with Simpee have at least Huh

actually no. they're not intended to be "logs", it's a fictional depiction of how the argument would have happened had the situation been the other way around. as it happens, the arguments within it are pretty good summations of the actual debates that have happened, i.e. absolutely nobody on the anti-pointsfix crowd coming up with even a poor answer to some pretty basic and important questions.

and no, it's not more logical.

BlueThen wrote

You can't really instantly conclude that it'll help or worsen clanwars and gameplay. Can't we just take a logical approach here, skip all the politics, and just put it to some testing?

of course you can't "instantly conclude" that, that's why i've insisted on a great deal of balance testing. as far as clanwars go, the results have been better than i'd hoped; all of my theories turned out to be absolutely right. every game on the new system has gone to the right clan; that was definitely NOT the case before. incidentally, quite a few people on the anti-pointsfix side have took their usual approach. during the initial testing they embarked on a campaign of lies, manipulation and sabotage to try to get it removed from the clanwar servers, then later lied to everybody and said they did test the full pointsfix (untrue).

i'd have loved to "skip all the politics" there, but the anti-pointsfix crowd had other ideas. still, they utterly failed, the pointsfix is where it should be and the clanwars league just had the best month it's had in years. result. still, if people still want to talk about the pointsfix being applied "democratically", then you're not entitled to forget what its opponents did during the testing period.

KobraOps wrote

Apparently. Does anyone read the essays spoony writes?

I give u a B+ for the last one, i didnt read it but it appears you cited your sources well, because you have many quotes. And probably some strong refuting arguments.

as i said, lots of people on the anti-pointsfix crowd have a long history of completely ignoring what the person they're arguing with is saying, often following that up by calling me the ignorant one.


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