| Gaming mice and renegade [message #411541] |
Fri, 20 November 2009 03:53  |
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reborn
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After seeing Orca's (the guy) video's of general ownage, I decided to give the whole 'free-aim' shooting a try. I think with practise I could get used to it and make me better. However, to make it erganomical I used the 'right-click' as my 'free-aim' button.
This became annoying because it meant secondary fire had to be assigned to something else. The whole attempt started to feel very counter-intuative, so for Christmas I am going to ask my wife for a new gaming mouse, specifically for the reason of the extra buttons.
Can anyone recomend a mouse that is erganomically designed, NOT wireless, has extra buttons so that I can easily use my thumb for the 'free-aim' button, has good precision, and possibly something cool like the ability to write marco's for it?
I was thinking of this:
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Mouse/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2944
Any thoughts?
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| Re: Gaming mice and renegade [message #411555 is a reply to message #411541] |
Fri, 20 November 2009 07:00  |
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Goztow
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The Logitech G5 is still one of the best gaming mouses out there and has seriously dropped in price. I've been using mine for the last 3 years or so. It's truly a great thing!
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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| Re: Gaming mice and renegade [message #411560 is a reply to message #411541] |
Fri, 20 November 2009 07:52 |
Stefan
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If you want something really accurate, you'd have to go for a drawing tablet such as the wacom intuos
It kicks major ass when it comes to headshotting in FPS games.
je m'appelle ohnoes!
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| Re: Gaming mice and renegade [message #411566 is a reply to message #411541] |
Fri, 20 November 2009 08:51 |
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JohnDoe
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You're asking the wrong people.
1.Free aiming sucks, it makes you predictable and isn't useful unless you're trying to shoot something you aren't supposed to see. A new mouse/gaming surface combo could improve your aim, with or without free aiming.
2. What's your mouse grip?
3. What's your gaming surface?
4. What's your sensitivity?
5. What resolution to you play on?
6. What were your experiences with other mice?
Those are the question you need to answer first, before anyone can give you credible advice. This thread is just idiots either picking the most expensive mouse or a mouse they personally liked, but which might not suit you at all. For example, the Razor Mamba is an overpriced POS unless you're gaming on a 50" plasma. 120$ for something the same shape as the Deathadder (50$) with an option for wireless (which you and most people don't need) and a laser sensor (doesn't track properly on a number of surfaces) with 5600 dpi (as opposed to 3500 dpi from the DA's optical sensor, already more than anyone needs). Most of the top Counter-Strike players still use discontinued 20$ Microsoft Intellimice with 800 dpi for their shape alone...choosing the right mouse has nothing to do with how much you pay. As a general rule, I would only stick to Microsoft, Logitech and Razer as they have been battle-tested.
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| Re: Gaming mice and renegade [message #411572 is a reply to message #411541] |
Fri, 20 November 2009 09:31 |
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Omar007
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Hmm i only bought the G5 because i considered all of the points JohnDoe said. It's true Reborn didnt told us his answers onthese but i tried my G5 on alot of surfaces and it worked great (glass not so much though  )
Also you can change the sensitivity of the G5 from 400*400 to 2000*2000 and all between, possible to have 5 options pre-set
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| Re: Gaming mice and renegade [message #411683 is a reply to message #411541] |
Sat, 21 November 2009 01:01 |
Homey
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Actually he listed 6 very good questions about which mouse to choose, something no one else offered. Most people will vouch for the things they own, which all in all doesn't offer much. With that being said, all of the suggested mice are good choices.
Homey
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| Re: Gaming mice and renegade [message #411695 is a reply to message #411670] |
Sat, 21 November 2009 02:42 |
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JohnDoe
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| Chew wrote on Fri, 20 November 2009 18:07 |
| JohnDoe wrote on Fri, 20 November 2009 13:30 |
| Chew wrote on Fri, 20 November 2009 10:19 |
JohnDoe is right, everyone else is wrong and a philistine faggot for thinking otherwise... 
I personally use the Microsoft Comfort Optical Mouse 3000. It has a good feel and just one extra button perfectly under my thumb. It is not expensive or overly fancy, just a good mouse IMO.
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Just good useless advice you provided right there. Thanks.
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How is that useless advice? Is it because it did not come form you?
OP asked for recommendations for mice with extra buttons that could be used for free aim... I in turn replied and said the mouse I use for the very same reason.
IMO, your advice is worthless as it is not answering the inquiry OP put forth... all you have done is try to insult everyone else, which is all you ever seem to do.
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Look, I wouldn't recommend a Prada suit to Dover - it's great quality and might look great on yours truly, but the slim/tall cut just doesn't mix well with Dover's portly physique.
If you can understand the analogy, then you will realize that I'm the only one who provided useful advice thus far and the guy that recommended a 120$ mouse is the real asshole. It's no coincidence that the only other person in this thread to kick ass at Renegade is backing me.
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| Re: Gaming mice and renegade [message #411831 is a reply to message #411555] |
Sun, 22 November 2009 06:52 |
-Xv-
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| Goztow wrote on Fri, 20 November 2009 09:00 |
The Logitech G5 is still one of the best gaming mouses out there and has seriously dropped in price. I've been using mine for the last 3 years or so. It's truly a great thing!
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The mouse you have @ the link looks nice, I haven't had the opportunity to try it yet. However, I have tried a few different mice, including razors (breaks easy) and microsoft (not as comfortable) and I have to say;
Logitech G5 all the way. I had mine for about a year. Still as good as new. Dirt doesn't stick to it like most mice, VERY sturdy, even the cable covering is made of some mesh, so it is resistant to breakage and pulling. 7 usable in-game buttons (+2 sensitivity, can change it on the fly) and the price tag is very nice. I got mine for $35. You can't go wrong with it.
If you have a medium to big hand you will also love its design. I can't recommend this mouse enough.
@JohnDoe -
1) Free aim is very useful and every rene "pro" uses it. Wonder why. Just because you can't use it, doesn't mean its useless, such as the point you made of it.
2) The design of the G5 fits most peoples hands very nicely, read some reviews.
3)The surface for laser (note; NOT optical) mice doesn't really matter, its accurate on almost any surface. Useless point.
4)can change sensitivity on the fly, or can set your sensitivity precisely. Can make it very responsive or unresponsive. (400 to 2000 DPI, and everything in between) Then again, most quality mice can do this. Another useless point imo.
5)I don't see what resolution has to do with anything.
6)He is probably using your average, everyday optical mouse. The G5, being extremely cheap nowadays, is a very good buy, even if to just experience the difference a quality mouse offers over an optical. If he doesn't like it, every electronics store that I know, has return policies, even if for just credit.
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| Re: Gaming mice and renegade [message #411836 is a reply to message #411834] |
Sun, 22 November 2009 07:39 |
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reborn
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| Nune wrote on Sun, 22 November 2009 09:36 |
I use the mouse that came with my computer...
you don't need a fancy mouse for ren just bind free aim to middle mouse and your done.
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I use that for 'push to talk' in team speak, it would annoy the other people in TS.
Plus, it's kinda awkward for my long fingers to do it like that.
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| Re: Gaming mice and renegade [message #411844 is a reply to message #411831] |
Sun, 22 November 2009 10:19 |
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JohnDoe
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| -Xv- wrote on Sun, 22 November 2009 07:52 |
@JohnDoe -
1) Free aim is very useful and every rene "pro" uses it. Wonder why. Just because you can't use it, doesn't mean its useless, such as the point you made of it.
2) The design of the G5 fits most peoples hands very nicely, read some reviews.
3)The surface for laser (note; NOT optical) mice doesn't really matter, its accurate on almost any surface. Useless point.
4)can change sensitivity on the fly, or can set your sensitivity precisely. Can make it very responsive or unresponsive. (400 to 2000 DPI, and everything in between) Then again, most quality mice can do this. Another useless point imo.
5)I don't see what resolution has to do with anything.
6)He is probably using your average, everyday optical mouse. The G5, being extremely cheap nowadays, is a very good buy, even if to just experience the difference a quality mouse offers over an optical. If he doesn't like it, every electronics store that I know, has return policies, even if for just credit.
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1. You have no idea who I am, no elite player uses free aim constantly - but how would you know? Canada only produced 3 pros (Homey, aZ and GotWiskey) and you're neither of them, you're just a random n00b.
2. The design of the G5 is terrible for my needs. I play with a fingertip grip (despite having large hands) and prefer the weight distribution of a symmetrical mouse and a flatter shape. You obviously have no idea what I'm talking about here as these thoughts never even crossed your mind when stupidly buying whatever felt nice in some reviewer's hand.
3. I use the Steelseries I-1 and a laser mouse will NOT track on it. There have been issues throughout the years with laser sensors, which is why the pros in CS and other FPS all use optical mice - take your own advice and read some reviews.
4. No pro will ever change sensitivity on the fly. Every second counts, so having to press another button before firing a weapon is the dumbest thing I can think of. What pros will do is assign custom sensitivity settings for each weapon.
5. Part 5 of you demonstrating how little you know about competitive gaming and mice. What do you think will happen when when the same sensor setting has to cover 1920 pixels instead of 600 pixels? In which case will you cover more of the screen with 1 swipe of the wrist?
6. So you want him to buy every mouse and return it before he finds the right one? More useful advice for this thread I guess...
Reborn, I'm willing to provide you with personalized "pro" advice, but if you don't bother to reply to my list, suit yourself.
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| Re: Gaming mice and renegade [message #411856 is a reply to message #411848] |
Sun, 22 November 2009 11:41 |
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JohnDoe
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| surth? / surth! wrote on Sun, 22 November 2009 11:31 |
did you ever play anything (except renegade) on a prolevel or why do you happen to have a steelseries?
just curious.
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Enemy Territory semi-pro level (sponsored server, couple pieces of hardware, no connection to Steelseries)
| Chew wrote on Sun, 22 November 2009 12:23 |
JohnDoe is the God of Renegade... if you use free aim you are a retarded noob and suck.
You stupid arrogant ass, it is a preference... obviously not yours, but a lot of other people share it.
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Yes, it's a preference, but not an advantage. QQ more..
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