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Fri, 20 November 2009 15:24

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SoQRadio wrote on Fri, 20 November 2009 14:18

Because Russia did not want to be seen as aggressive in the eyes of Britain and Austria. Essentially, in a world where alliances meant everything, they wanted to avoid isolation.

If that were the case, why launch the war without international support in the first place? It's one or the other. You can't have it both ways.

SoQRadio wrote on Fri, 20 November 2009 14:18

Uh, if I were Germany, I would be worried if the country next door, who I am not on great terms with, starts massing troops at my boarder.

And a proper response would be to mobilize as well and prepare for some kind of defensive action. An improper response would be to preemptively declare war and attack first, yet that's just what Germany did.

SoQRadio wrote on Fri, 20 November 2009 14:18

Thats pretty stupid on their part, as they basically preempted Germany into declaring war.

No they didn't. Nobody forced Germany's hand. They could have kept their troops on their side of the border in defense and everything would have been cool. You're just trying to find some kind of way to incriminate Russia because of some impotent rage you have toward the country.

SoQRadio wrote on Fri, 20 November 2009 14:18

We've been over this before. The Russian's wanted access to the Straits, and thats why they helped the Bulgarian's defeat the Turks. The only reason they wernt able to seize the Straits is because of the intervention of Britain and Austria.

You're saying what they WANTED to get. I'm asking what they DID get. The war was a success on Russia's part, and I find it hard to believe that the only thing that would keep them from accomplishing their goals is a foreseeable predictable political situation that they no doubt prepared for.

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