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Who started WW1? [message #411303] |
Wed, 18 November 2009 11:00 |
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Why some of you guys r so racist? Especially u germans such a haters everywhere.. sick.
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Re: Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars? [message #411312 is a reply to message #411307] |
Wed, 18 November 2009 12:26 |
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JohnDoe wrote on Wed, 18 November 2009 19:38 | Poland simply gets no respect around the world...Germany might be hated, but at least it's respected.
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This.
I might not be a huge fan of Germany, but I can respect them. But what the hell has Poland done?
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FUCK YOU AND THIS SHIT GAME WITH YOUR SCRIPTS!!! I HAVE ASKING YOU AND ANOTHER NOOBS HERE ABOUT HELP WITH THAT BUILDING ICONS FEATURES FOR YEARS, BUT YOU KEEP IGNORING ME AND KEEP WRITE SHIT, SO BURN YOU AND YOUR ASSLICKERS FRIENDS, THIS TIME I'M NOT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars? [message #411322 is a reply to message #411321] |
Wed, 18 November 2009 13:08 |
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nobody hates germany now....
as for what poland has ever done... hello? remek?
renegade and remek go together like ant and dec or religion and war... you could have one without the other but i don't think anyone would see the point
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Re: Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars? [message #411333 is a reply to message #411303] |
Wed, 18 November 2009 14:27 |
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Hate is a strong word, yet there are only few regions where the majority of the citizenship holds a favorable view on Germany. Ireland, Scotland, Croatia, a good share of muslim countries, perhaps Japan and a few others in that area come to mind, but that's about it. I'm not saying the poor Germans have to battle prejudice, however, I do sometimes strategically reveal myself as either German or American when meeting new people.
I really don't know why Poland gets so little respect. Perhaps because Warsaw isn't in the same league as Prague and Budapest. Perhaps because Polish women aren't considered as pretty as Czech women and better known as housekeepers. Perhaps there weren't enough significant Polish figures in history, inventors, entrepreneurs. Perhaps it's because not many have heard of Polish culture, food or significant exports. Perhaps its because they seem far more bitter and unable get over WW2 than the Jews, even though many Polish nationals happily participated in the Holocaust, which left 6 million Jews murdered, while Poland simply got invaded and turned into a war zone by Germany and Russia - just like hundreds of other countries in history. Perhaps the Polish flag looks too damn cheap...I really don't know, the only times Poland appears in the media is when they whine about either Germany or Russia or act ungrateful towards the EU.
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Re: Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars? [message #411343 is a reply to message #411333] |
Wed, 18 November 2009 15:11 |
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i can sweep away your entire post with one word
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Re: Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars? [message #411483 is a reply to message #411303] |
Thu, 19 November 2009 15:07 |
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Spoony
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fair point. y'know, they didn't teach me a single damn thing about world war one in school. i learned more about it from blackadder... so sad. there wasn't MUCH about world war two either, they basically just said hitler was a racist. meanwhile the bible myths are taught with the same certainty as what we were told in geography, for example...
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Re: Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars? [message #411487 is a reply to message #411483] |
Thu, 19 November 2009 15:34 |
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GEORGE ZIMMER
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Spoony wrote on Thu, 19 November 2009 16:07 | fair point. y'know, they didn't teach me a single damn thing about world war one in school. i learned more about it from blackadder... so sad. there wasn't MUCH about world war two either, they basically just said hitler was a racist. meanwhile the bible myths are taught with the same certainty as what we were told in geography, for example...
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Huh, you know, come to think of it, hardly ANYTHING about WW1 is ever taught. Pretty sure a good lot of schools end up teaching WWII before WWI (if they teach about WWI atall). I mean yeah, WWII was definitely a good lot more important in terms of technology developed and was a general turning point for the entire world, but WWI set the stage for WWII- you'd think they'd teach it first to set an understanding as to WHY Germany was the way they were in WWII... people seem to think Germany just suddenly become super assholes and were the devil, lol.
Toggle SpoilerScrin wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 13:22 |
cAmpa wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 12:45 | Scrin, stop pming people to get the building bars.
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FUCK YOU AND THIS SHIT GAME WITH YOUR SCRIPTS!!! I HAVE ASKING YOU AND ANOTHER NOOBS HERE ABOUT HELP WITH THAT BUILDING ICONS FEATURES FOR YEARS, BUT YOU KEEP IGNORING ME AND KEEP WRITE SHIT, SO BURN YOU AND YOUR ASSLICKERS FRIENDS, THIS TIME I'M NOT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars? [message #411525 is a reply to message #411495] |
Thu, 19 November 2009 22:55 |
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RadioactiveHell wrote on Thu, 19 November 2009 15:23 | Actually Russia was most directly responsible for WWI. Until Russia acted, it looked like it was going to be a small-scale war between the Austrians and the Serbs (over the assassination of Francis Ferdinand). Russia wanted control of the straits and didnt want to lose its influence in the Balkans, and acted in defense of the Serbs. Russia started mobilizing for war early, and thus forced Germany to declare war, for the sake of its own national security as well as for the sake of its ally, Austria.
Germany, however, was entirely responsible for WWII.
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Yeah, you're right. Russia should have just left it's allies to suffer and die without fulfilling the terms of their treaties. I like how Germany is only mobilizing to defend it's ally but Russia is always the big bad aggressor. That's so 1950s of you.
For the record, Russia already had close ties with most of the nations in the Balkans almost a century prior. My homeland of Bulgaria was liberated from the Turks with the help from the Russians. They don't need to attack anything to "gain control of the straits", unless you mean attacking Turkey in which case probably, but nobody likes Turkey anyway so nobody would have cared.
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Re: Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars? [message #411531 is a reply to message #411525] |
Fri, 20 November 2009 01:19 |
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Dover wrote on Thu, 19 November 2009 23:55 |
RadioactiveHell wrote on Thu, 19 November 2009 15:23 | Actually Russia was most directly responsible for WWI. Until Russia acted, it looked like it was going to be a small-scale war between the Austrians and the Serbs (over the assassination of Francis Ferdinand). Russia wanted control of the straits and didnt want to lose its influence in the Balkans, and acted in defense of the Serbs. Russia started mobilizing for war early, and thus forced Germany to declare war, for the sake of its own national security as well as for the sake of its ally, Austria.
Germany, however, was entirely responsible for WWII.
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Yeah, you're right. Russia should have just left it's allies to suffer and die without fulfilling the terms of their treaties. I like how Germany is only mobilizing to defend it's ally but Russia is always the big bad aggressor. That's so 1950s of you.
For the record, Russia already had close ties with most of the nations in the Balkans almost a century prior. My homeland of Bulgaria was liberated from the Turks with the help from the Russians. They don't need to attack anything to "gain control of the straits", unless you mean attacking Turkey in which case probably, but nobody likes Turkey anyway so nobody would have cared.
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LOL, only reason Russia defended Bulgaria was to defeat the Turks and get control of the straits. Why else would Russia come to Bulgaria's defense?
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Re: Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars? [message #411532 is a reply to message #411531] |
Fri, 20 November 2009 01:23 |
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Dover
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RadioactiveHell wrote on Fri, 20 November 2009 00:19 |
Dover wrote on Thu, 19 November 2009 23:55 |
RadioactiveHell wrote on Thu, 19 November 2009 15:23 | Actually Russia was most directly responsible for WWI. Until Russia acted, it looked like it was going to be a small-scale war between the Austrians and the Serbs (over the assassination of Francis Ferdinand). Russia wanted control of the straits and didnt want to lose its influence in the Balkans, and acted in defense of the Serbs. Russia started mobilizing for war early, and thus forced Germany to declare war, for the sake of its own national security as well as for the sake of its ally, Austria.
Germany, however, was entirely responsible for WWII.
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Yeah, you're right. Russia should have just left it's allies to suffer and die without fulfilling the terms of their treaties. I like how Germany is only mobilizing to defend it's ally but Russia is always the big bad aggressor. That's so 1950s of you.
For the record, Russia already had close ties with most of the nations in the Balkans almost a century prior. My homeland of Bulgaria was liberated from the Turks with the help from the Russians. They don't need to attack anything to "gain control of the straits", unless you mean attacking Turkey in which case probably, but nobody likes Turkey anyway so nobody would have cared.
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LOL, only reason Russia defended Bulgaria was to defeat the Turks and get control of the straits. Why else would Russia come to Bulgaria's defense?
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Because of close cultural ties? The Russians adapted their language, alphabet, and some cultural customs from ancient Bulgaria. Slavs look out for each other.
Also, again, nobody likes the Turks.
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Re: Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars? [message #411563 is a reply to message #411532] |
Fri, 20 November 2009 08:27 |
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JohnDoe
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Dover wrote on Fri, 20 November 2009 02:23 |
RadioactiveHell wrote on Fri, 20 November 2009 00:19 |
Dover wrote on Thu, 19 November 2009 23:55 |
RadioactiveHell wrote on Thu, 19 November 2009 15:23 | Actually Russia was most directly responsible for WWI. Until Russia acted, it looked like it was going to be a small-scale war between the Austrians and the Serbs (over the assassination of Francis Ferdinand). Russia wanted control of the straits and didnt want to lose its influence in the Balkans, and acted in defense of the Serbs. Russia started mobilizing for war early, and thus forced Germany to declare war, for the sake of its own national security as well as for the sake of its ally, Austria.
Germany, however, was entirely responsible for WWII.
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Yeah, you're right. Russia should have just left it's allies to suffer and die without fulfilling the terms of their treaties. I like how Germany is only mobilizing to defend it's ally but Russia is always the big bad aggressor. That's so 1950s of you.
For the record, Russia already had close ties with most of the nations in the Balkans almost a century prior. My homeland of Bulgaria was liberated from the Turks with the help from the Russians. They don't need to attack anything to "gain control of the straits", unless you mean attacking Turkey in which case probably, but nobody likes Turkey anyway so nobody would have cared.
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LOL, only reason Russia defended Bulgaria was to defeat the Turks and get control of the straits. Why else would Russia come to Bulgaria's defense?
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Because of close cultural ties? The Russians adapted their language, alphabet, and some cultural customs from ancient Bulgaria. Slavs look out for each other.
Also, again, nobody likes the Turks.
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...and nobody ever gave a shit or will give a shit about Bulgarians. Bulgaria's only significant export is cheap feta, true story.
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Re: Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars? [message #411570 is a reply to message #411532] |
Fri, 20 November 2009 09:21 |
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Dover wrote on Fri, 20 November 2009 02:23 |
RadioactiveHell wrote on Fri, 20 November 2009 00:19 |
Dover wrote on Thu, 19 November 2009 23:55 |
RadioactiveHell wrote on Thu, 19 November 2009 15:23 | Actually Russia was most directly responsible for WWI. Until Russia acted, it looked like it was going to be a small-scale war between the Austrians and the Serbs (over the assassination of Francis Ferdinand). Russia wanted control of the straits and didnt want to lose its influence in the Balkans, and acted in defense of the Serbs. Russia started mobilizing for war early, and thus forced Germany to declare war, for the sake of its own national security as well as for the sake of its ally, Austria.
Germany, however, was entirely responsible for WWII.
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Yeah, you're right. Russia should have just left it's allies to suffer and die without fulfilling the terms of their treaties. I like how Germany is only mobilizing to defend it's ally but Russia is always the big bad aggressor. That's so 1950s of you.
For the record, Russia already had close ties with most of the nations in the Balkans almost a century prior. My homeland of Bulgaria was liberated from the Turks with the help from the Russians. They don't need to attack anything to "gain control of the straits", unless you mean attacking Turkey in which case probably, but nobody likes Turkey anyway so nobody would have cared.
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LOL, only reason Russia defended Bulgaria was to defeat the Turks and get control of the straits. Why else would Russia come to Bulgaria's defense?
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Because of close cultural ties? The Russians adapted their language, alphabet, and some cultural customs from ancient Bulgaria. Slavs look out for each other.
Also, again, nobody likes the Turks.
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LOL, pan slavism was cover for Russia to invade. You can't just invade a country because you want more territory, that would have looked bad in the eyes of the Russian people as well as in the eyes of Europe. ...You dont think that Russia actually cared about Bulgaria, right?
So again, the country most directly at blame for the outbreak of WWI is Russia.
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Re: Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars? [message #411578 is a reply to message #411570] |
Fri, 20 November 2009 10:33 |
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SoQRadio wrote on Fri, 20 November 2009 08:21 | LOL, pan slavism was cover for Russia to invade. You can't just invade a country because you want more territory, that would have looked bad in the eyes of the Russian people as well as in the eyes of Europe. ...You dont think that Russia actually cared about Bulgaria, right?
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If this were true, then either Russia would have kept the territory it captured, or a puppet government would have been installed. Neither happened, therefore you're full of shit. After all, If all Russia was after was more territory, why would they then give away all their hard-won earnings while expecting nothing but gratitude in return?
SoQRadio wrote on Fri, 20 November 2009 08:21 | So again, the country most directly at blame for the outbreak of WWI is Russia.
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You must be channeling the spirit of Reagan. That's the only explanation I can come up with that would make you hate Russia so much as to ignore blatant facts.
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Re: Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars? [message #411605 is a reply to message #411582] |
Fri, 20 November 2009 13:18 |
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JohnDoe wrote on Fri, 20 November 2009 10:26 | ignorance...history...Russian Czar's gave a shit about fucking Bulgaria (lol) when all of a sudden he had the Ottoman Empire, Germany and Austro-Hungary fighting him abroad with the Bolsheviks attempting to topple him at home.
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World War 1 - Bolshevik Revolution: 1914-1917, Czar Nicholas II the Martyr
Bulgarian liberation: 1877-1878, Czar Alexander II the Liberator
Pot kettle black, eh? You're confusing two Czars forty years apart and calling me ignorant about history. Take your head out of your ass long enough to proofread what you write before you post it for all to see.
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