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| Yaza wrote on Sun, 15 November 2009 03:21 |
you guys are clearly trying to hard to get loki banned on a game that barely gets played anymore and loki is one of those people who are trying to get .cc a lot more games. im pretty sure most of the people here have tested a cheat to see how it works and shit in a public server on a smurf nick ( yes most of you will deny it ) , and then after they got bored they took the cheat off and started playing clean. if anyone of you have played with loki the last couple of months you can tell that he isnt cheating and has interest to play some clanwars. so i dont see why u dont unban him and keep an eye on him until the naxt time u have proof on a "clanwar server" that he is cheating and that this topic will be locked and he will be forever banned on .cc
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^^ when a cheater is caught, there's always someone who, no matter what, thinks they shouldn't be banned. and no matter how the situation develops, when it turns out the culprit's cheating goes deeper than originally thought or when it turns out he lied to the community a great deal, the person just moves the goalposts.
firstly, "trying too hard to get loki banned". no. he came to me, remember, and tried to get me to help him clear his reputation. can you look at this thread and say i gave him unfair treatment? if he turned out to be innocent then everything i've said would have been on his side.
"loki is one of those people who are trying to get .cc a lot more games."
i don't want more activity at .cc if the price is letting cheaters and compulsive liars get away with it, sorry. right now we've just started revitalising the league this month and so far it's going great... we have three "top clans" fighting for the cup already, strong clan identities, no accusations against each other, no cheating, no pointpushing... and you think the best thing for me to do at this point is let loki into the mix? please.
"im pretty sure most of the people here have tested a cheat to see how it works and shit in a public server on a smurf nick"
i haven't, i've done my testing in private passworded servers so as not to interfere with someone else's enjoyment of the game. and of course, even if your statement was true for "most of the people here", then the most notable exception would be loki.
"if anyone of you have played with loki the last couple of months you can tell that he isnt cheating"
this is what you said in your first post. that post was before his admissions, so in that case we could simply dismiss you as having really bad judgment. now, we need to be a little more suspicious.
finally, you "don't see why I don't unban him"? please explain to me why unbanning him could be a good thing. he ought to take my advice. there's only one way he can regain any respect; that's to play non-smurfing from now on with no cheats, and it's gonna take a lot longer than a week. some people will never trust him, of course, but that's tough shit for him.
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| Re: Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars? [message #410804 is a reply to message #410801] |
Sun, 15 November 2009 06:26 |
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| RoCk2Star wrote on Sun, 15 November 2009 14:14 |
Why admit that?
I agree people who got caught cheating should be banned,but not for ever. If these players who cheated are kind, they should have a chance as long as they understand it was bad. If someone acts like last nerd e.g mrackz, shouldn't have any chance.
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You're just saying that because you got caught cheating...
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| Re: Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars? [message #410817 is a reply to message #410431] |
Sun, 15 November 2009 07:36 |
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@ Dover , no i have never cheated in public or cw.cc game/server only tested in a private server to see what i need to keep my eyes on while im a mod.
@ George , either u dont have a hobby or a life. choose one. you stated before you dont know who loki is so u have no business spamming here
@ Spoony i never said u are trying to hard to ban him , im talking to the people who hate him and give him a second chance. And I thank you for handling this topic as fair as possible. But seeing as you pointed out that only 3 clans are actualy active maybe it might get better with loki being as he is active and that he has never cheated in a cw.cc game ( as far as ive been playing with him)a bit more fun into the game. I dont see the point in you keeping him banned from cw.cc has anything to be positive , seeing he has only disrupted public games not having anything to do with .cc
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| Re: Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars? [message #410819 is a reply to message #410431] |
Sun, 15 November 2009 07:58 |
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lol loki, best thread ever
moron cheats his face off but is a complete retard.. so you still win most of your games against him. I actually prefer he cheats he'd probably suck so hard without them it wouldnt even be a challange, the dude is dumb as shit
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| Re: Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars? [message #410821 is a reply to message #410817] |
Sun, 15 November 2009 08:13 |
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| Yaza wrote on Sun, 15 November 2009 08:36 |
And I thank you for handling this topic as fair as possible.
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yep. that means keeping him banned from clanwars.
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But seeing as you pointed out that only 3 clans are actualy active maybe it might get better with loki being as he is active and that he has never cheated in a cw.cc game ( as far as ive been playing with him)a bit more fun into the game. I dont see the point in you keeping him banned from cw.cc has anything to be positive , seeing he has only disrupted public games not having anything to do with .cc
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firstly, i did not say only three clans were active. i said three "top clans". there are more than CAG, H2O and TC playing right now.
secondly, why would you think he's never cheated in a clanwar? it is true that clanwars was as good as dead for the last year or so until i came back, so let's count funwars too for that period.
thirdly, a lot of people thought that clanwars wouldn't get going again because of undetectable cheats. indeed, they're a real bitch. but clanwars IS working again, because the regulars generally trust each other. everybody knows they can play me, for example, without worrying about cheats. it's going surprisingly well... why on earth would i sully all that by letting loki back into the league? the worst cheats are sufficiently hard to catch somebody with that if someone IS caught, they deserve no renemercy.
let me put this simply; he's never shown me a single reason to think the league is better with him in it. and the only way he ever will is if from now on he plays without cheating and without smurfing, in the small number of servers he isn't banned from. if he can't do that then perhaps you'll begin to see things my way, hmmm?
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| Re: Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars? [message #410822 is a reply to message #410817] |
Sun, 15 November 2009 08:13 |
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| Yaza wrote on Sun, 15 November 2009 08:36 |
@ George , either u dont have a hobby or a life. choose one. you stated before you dont know who loki is so u have no business spamming here
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Nice entirely unrelated ad hominem there, and yes I don't know him personally, who cares? If I suddenly did, does that make him not a cheater? A cheater is a cheater, and it's been proven NUMEROUS TIMES that he has... he's even lied in this very thread, and the fact that you come in here saying we have no right to call him a cheater makes you look hilariously stupid. So yeah, I have every right to laugh my ass off 
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| Re: Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars? [message #410823 is a reply to message #410431] |
Sun, 15 November 2009 08:19 |
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Renegade has the most retarded cheaters in the world...when you look at the amount of cheat protection and the features of the cheats on the market, it puzzles me how virtually every cheater that made it obvious ended up getting caught. I'm sure there are a few clever ones that cheated without anyone ever noticing...I mean, fucking Soul did a relatively good job covering up and that guy was one of the dumbest people I've ever talked to.
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| Re: Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars? [message #410829 is a reply to message #410804] |
Sun, 15 November 2009 08:41 |
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| Goztow wrote on Sun, 15 November 2009 14:26 |
| RoCk2Star wrote on Sun, 15 November 2009 14:14 |
Why admit that?
I agree people who got caught cheating should be banned,but not for ever. If these players who cheated are kind, they should have a chance as long as they understand it was bad. If someone acts like last nerd e.g mrackz, shouldn't have any chance.
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You're just saying that because you got caught cheating...
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But i wanted to get caught.. I always had the same mind about that, before and after.
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| Re: Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars? [message #410830 is a reply to message #410823] |
Sun, 15 November 2009 08:43 |
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| JohnDoe wrote on Sun, 15 November 2009 16:19 |
Renegade has the most retarded cheaters in the world...when you look at the amount of cheat protection and the features of the cheats on the market, it puzzles me how virtually every cheater that made it obvious ended up getting caught. I'm sure there are a few clever ones that cheated without anyone ever noticing...I mean, fucking Soul did a relatively good job covering up and that guy was one of the dumbest people I've ever talked to.
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NOT.
Theres not much of them here. Believe me, Gen ZH is most cheater game ever. CW is hax there
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| Re: Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars? [message #410831 is a reply to message #410431] |
Sun, 15 November 2009 09:11 |
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George uve proven my point again that u have no busines to go along with this topic , so keep your boner down and maybe go laugh outside. I never came in here saying u have no right to call him a cheater , i came in here saying what is the point in keeping him banned fromc cw.cc when as from what i know never cheated in clanwars/funwars and this is what the topic is about (Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars?). i could be wrong about this all ,but hey i would like to see renegade get active again and i see the only way getting .cc back is getting all the clanwar players we can find and letting them play and maybe i will start playing clanwars again who knows. and maybe sponny can keep an eye on him letting him play some clanwars with a tight leash
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| Re: Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars? [message #410833 is a reply to message #410830] |
Sun, 15 November 2009 09:13 |
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| RoCk2Star wrote on Sun, 15 November 2009 09:43 |
| JohnDoe wrote on Sun, 15 November 2009 16:19 |
Renegade has the most retarded cheaters in the world...when you look at the amount of cheat protection and the features of the cheats on the market, it puzzles me how virtually every cheater that made it obvious ended up getting caught. I'm sure there are a few clever ones that cheated without anyone ever noticing...I mean, fucking Soul did a relatively good job covering up and that guy was one of the dumbest people I've ever talked to.
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NOT.
Theres not much of them here. Believe me, Gen ZH is most cheater game ever. CW is hax there
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I only said Renegade cheaters were the most retarded, how does ZH having more cheaters change that? You sound pretty retarded yourself...are you a cheater?
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| Re: Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars? [message #410835 is a reply to message #410804] |
Sun, 15 November 2009 09:17 |
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| Goztow wrote on Sun, 15 November 2009 14:26 |
| RoCk2Star wrote on Sun, 15 November 2009 14:14 |
Why admit that?
I agree people who got caught cheating should be banned,but not for ever. If these players who cheated are kind, they should have a chance as long as they understand it was bad. If someone acts like last nerd e.g mrackz, shouldn't have any chance.
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You're just saying that because you got caught cheating...
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lol
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| Re: Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars? [message #410847 is a reply to message #410831] |
Sun, 15 November 2009 10:24 |
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| Yaza wrote on Sun, 15 November 2009 10:11 |
George uve proven my point again that u have no busines to go along with this topic , so keep your boner down and maybe go laugh outside.
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actually, everyone in renegade has business with this topic if they want to.
loki came to me privately, but that was no good. i said if he wanted to clear his reputation, he'd have to do it publicly and let people make their accusations... hence this thread.
of course, it's turned out to have backfired on him. if he turned out to be completely innocent then i'd be on his side sticking up for him. since he isn't innocent in any real sense, he's gotta put up with the inevitable public ridicule.
| Yaza wrote on Sun, 15 November 2009 10:11 |
i came in here saying what is the point in keeping him banned fromc cw.cc when as from what i know never cheated in clanwars/funwars and this is what the topic is about (Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars?). i could be wrong about this all ,but hey i would like to see renegade get active again and i see the only way getting .cc back is getting all the clanwar players we can find and letting them play and maybe i will start playing clanwars again who knows. and maybe sponny can keep an eye on him letting him play some clanwars with a tight leash
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you're right about one thing... you certainly could be wrong about all this. this post basically shows you haven't read anything either i or loki have said.
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| Re: Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars? [message #410850 is a reply to message #410831] |
Sun, 15 November 2009 11:06 |
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| Yaza wrote on Sun, 15 November 2009 10:11 |
and maybe sponny can keep an eye on him letting him play some clanwars with a tight leash
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Why on Earth should Spoony, or anyone else have to keep Loki on a tight leash. That puts the responsibility on someone else, which is unfair. The onus should be on Loki, and given his current record, I'd say it's kinda hard to 'trust' a guy who's cheated it up in pretty much every server in Renegade...
...including a Co-op server lol...
... and expect him to play nice in a clanwar? That's a pretty tall order.
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| Re: Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars? [message #410885 is a reply to message #410833] |
Sun, 15 November 2009 14:32 |
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| JohnDoe wrote on Sun, 15 November 2009 17:13 |
| RoCk2Star wrote on Sun, 15 November 2009 09:43 |
| JohnDoe wrote on Sun, 15 November 2009 16:19 |
Renegade has the most retarded cheaters in the world...when you look at the amount of cheat protection and the features of the cheats on the market, it puzzles me how virtually every cheater that made it obvious ended up getting caught. I'm sure there are a few clever ones that cheated without anyone ever noticing...I mean, fucking Soul did a relatively good job covering up and that guy was one of the dumbest people I've ever talked to.
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Theres not much of them here. Believe me, Gen ZH is most cheater game ever. CW is hax there
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I only said Renegade cheaters were the most retarded, how does ZH having more cheaters change that? You sound pretty retarded yourself...are you a cheater?
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Zh cheaters are most tards..
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| Re: Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars? [message #410908 is a reply to message #410801] |
Sun, 15 November 2009 17:02 |
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| RoCk2Star wrote on Sun, 15 November 2009 05:14 |
but not for ever. If these players who cheated are kind, they should have a chance as long as they understand it was bad.
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RIDOCULES!
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| Re: Does loki cheat in clanwars/funwars? [message #410975 is a reply to message #410908] |
Mon, 16 November 2009 11:19 |
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| Dover wrote on Mon, 16 November 2009 01:02 |
| RoCk2Star wrote on Sun, 15 November 2009 05:14 |
but not for ever. If these players who cheated are kind, they should have a chance as long as they understand it was bad.
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RIDOCULES!
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