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Article'Significant' water found on Moon
By Jonathan Amos
Science reporter, BBC News
A camera on the probe shows the ejecta plume about 20 seconds after impact
Nasa's experiment last month to find water on the Moon was a major success, US scientists have announced.
The space agency smashed a rocket and a probe into a large crater at the lunar south pole, hoping to kick up ice.
Scientists who have studied the data now say instruments trained on the impact plume saw copious quantities of water-ice and water vapour.
One researcher described this as the equivalent of "a dozen two-gallon buckets" of water.
"We didn't just find a little bit; we found a significant amount," said Anthony Colaprete, chief scientist for the Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite (LCROSS) mission.
The following probe was designed to analyse the debris plume
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October's experiment involved driving a 2,200kg Centaur rocket stage into the 100km-wide Cabeus Crater, a permanently shadowed depression at the Moon's far south.
At the time, scientists were hoping for a big plume of debris some 10km high which could be seen by Earth telescopes.
LCROSS (Nasa)
The following probe was designed to analyse the debris plume
The actual debris cloud was much smaller, about 1.6km high, but sufficiently large to betray the evidence researchers were seeking.
The near-infrared spectrometer on the LCROSS probe that followed the rocket into the crater detected water-ice and water vapour. The ultraviolet-visible spectrometer provided additional confirmation by identifying the hydroxyl (OH) molecule, which arises when water is broken apart in sunlight.
"We were able to match the spectra from LCROSS data only when we inserted the spectra for water," Dr Colaprete said.
"No other reasonable combination of other compounds that we tried matched the observations. The possibility of contamination from the Centaur also was ruled out."
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The total quantity of H2O spied by the instruments was more than 100kg. It came out of a 20m-30m wide hole dug up by the impacting Centaur rocket.
The LCROSS scientists stressed that the results presented on Friday were preliminary findings only, and further analysis could raise the final assessment of the amount of water in Cabeus.
Peter Schultz, from Brown University and a co-investigator on the LCROSS mission, said: "What's really exciting is we've only hit one spot. It's kind of like when you're drilling for oil. Once you find it in one place, there's a greater chance you'll find more nearby."
The regular surface of the Moon as seen from Earth is drier than any desert on our planet. But researchers have long speculated that some permanently shadowed places might harbour considerable stores of water, perhaps delivered by impacting comets billions of years ago.
If future investigations find the quantities to be particularly large, this water could become a useful resource for any astronauts who might base themselves at the lunar poles.
"It can be used for drinking water," said Mike Wargo, Nasa's chief lunar scientist for exploration systems.
"You can break it down and have breathable air for crews. But also, if you have significant quantities of this stuff, you have the constituents of one of the most potent rocket fuels - oxygen and hydrogen."
The Centaur dug out a hole 20m-30m wide
In September, data from three spacecraft, including India's Chandrayaan probe, showed that very fine films of H2O coat the particles that make up lunar soil.
Scientists behind that finding speculated that this water might migrate to the even cooler poles, much as water vapour on Earth will condense on a cold surface.
This cold sink effect could be supplementing any water delivered by comets, they said.
If cometary material did reside in places like Cabeus Crater it would be fascinating to examine it, commented Greg Delory, from the University of California, Berkeley.
"The surfaces in these permanently shadowed areas, such as the one LCROSS impacted, are very cold," he told reporters.
"That means that they tend to trap and keep things that encounter them - compounds, atoms and so forth. And so they act as record keepers over periods as long as several billion years. They have a story to tell about the history of the Moon and the Solar System."
LCROSS was launched by Nasa on 18 June as part of a double mission which included the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO).
The latter, which continues to circle the Moon, measured a temperature of minus 230 Celsius at the base of Cabeus Crater.
Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8359744.stm
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Re: 'Significant' water found on Moon [message #410713 is a reply to message #410687] |
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Well that makes a lunar base considerably more feasable - solar powered hydrolysis...
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Zeratul PT2 zeratul2400 wrote on Mon, 10 November 2003 09:49 | GENOCIDE YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG JACKAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU CREATE DUSK FLAYING FUCK YOU BIG JAKAS YOUR MAPS IS BAD YOU WANT I WRUGHT THIS THE MAPS IS BAD HEY IS ONE YEAR YOUR PROMESS A WARPATH MOD WERKING BUT IT NO WORK AND DONT JUST GENOCIDE I TELL IT ALL REPLYER IN THIS FORUM I DESLIKE YOU.
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lolnikki6ixx wrote on Wed, 09 June 2010 05:11 | With only 14 people living in Canada, the retarded one was bound to show up around here sooner or later.
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HaTe wrote on Sun, 04 July 2010 16:17 |
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CarrierII wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 22:35 | I am in a bad mood with you, you wasted my time.
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Altzan wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 14:10 |
Dreganius wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 07:27 |
Good-One-Driver wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 09:03 | lol fuckin russians damn communists
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That was the worst comment to this thread ever.
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Nightma12 wrote on Wed, 08 June 2011 14:27 | your mum is a stupid language
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reborn wrote on Sun, 20 November 2011 11:54 | Liquedv2, yew need to branch out a little on your thinking. I'm sure you'll twig it soon enough, but you're barking up the wrong tree.
The map is budding with new ideas and great game-play, AitcraftKiller just has to get to the root of the problem, it seems to have him pretty stumped right now.
Leaf him alone, he's doing a good job. I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say this map isn't fir you.
Anyway, this thread is really starting to lumber along, all this over some sap's map? I thought the game was dead, but this thread at least is poplar. It makes me pine for the days of yonder.
At the end of the day, life's a Beech.. Who wood of thought it?
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Azazel wrote on Sun, 25 March 2012 10:20 | 6 Players don't know how to use a tank.
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All water is drinkable, the water on earth mostly came from outta space anyways, ice and dat. It would be probably cheaper to actually live on the moon, then go further out into space. Find new resources coz the earth for one isnt big enough for us all and also doesnt have the resources that are sustable for all of us.
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Sladewill wrote on Sat, 14 November 2009 15:43 | All water is drinkable, the water on earth mostly came from outta space anyways, ice and dat. It would be probably cheaper to actually live on the moon, then go further out into space. Find new resources coz the earth for one isnt big enough for us all and also doesnt have the resources that are sustable for all of us.
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Right, and what resources does the moon offer, aside from a little water? Until we can basically do what alchemists back in the day failed to do, I highly doubt the moon will be worth it to be inhabit. Same goes for mars and etc.
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GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Sat, 14 November 2009 22:46 |
Sladewill wrote on Sat, 14 November 2009 15:43 | All water is drinkable, the water on earth mostly came from outta space anyways, ice and dat. It would be probably cheaper to actually live on the moon, then go further out into space. Find new resources coz the earth for one isnt big enough for us all and also doesnt have the resources that are sustable for all of us.
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Right, and what resources does the moon offer, aside from a little water? Until we can basically do what alchemists back in the day failed to do, I highly doubt the moon will be worth it to be inhabit. Same goes for mars and etc.
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Excuse me, but you're stupid to think that the moon doesn't have any valuable minerals. It's space, and doesn't have an atmosphere, so comets and asteroids will surely deposit a shitload of minerals there.
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sat, 14 November 2009 23:51 |
GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Sat, 14 November 2009 22:46 |
Sladewill wrote on Sat, 14 November 2009 15:43 | All water is drinkable, the water on earth mostly came from outta space anyways, ice and dat. It would be probably cheaper to actually live on the moon, then go further out into space. Find new resources coz the earth for one isnt big enough for us all and also doesnt have the resources that are sustable for all of us.
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Right, and what resources does the moon offer, aside from a little water? Until we can basically do what alchemists back in the day failed to do, I highly doubt the moon will be worth it to be inhabit. Same goes for mars and etc.
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Excuse me, but you're stupid to think that the moon doesn't have any valuable minerals. It's space, and doesn't have an atmosphere, so comets and asteroids will surely deposit a shitload of minerals there.
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Only thing left to do for us is to explore and examine.
Find minerals, examine minerals and experiment with them.
Earth is only a needle in a haystack when talking about "space" or "the universe". There's much more to be discovered. But you've got to start somewhere. In this case, it's the moon.
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