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Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #409264 is a reply to message #409263] Tue, 03 November 2009 19:08 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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tanzying wrote on Tue, 03 November 2009 19:59

I said "whether they have actually been so or not" because you have used these negative adjectives to describe some of the jelly members in previous debates. Since I have never read these other debates, I simply put that in to show that I am unable to judge whether such descriptions are justified.

That wasn't really the meat of the statement, was it? You go out of your way to say "people don't appreciate being called such-and-such".

tanzying wrote on Tue, 03 November 2009 19:59

Fine. Anyway, both parties are angry. Whatever reasons may cause this are not my point. My point is the fact that both are angry. But I'm fine with retracting the above quote if you don't like your reason being compared to theirs.

Good.

tanzying wrote on Tue, 03 November 2009 19:59

If someone couldn't think logically and got himself into a situation I didn't care about, I too would say that it's his/her own problem.

However, you are trying to push a few causes here because you care about the community. Your efforts are being hindered due to negative emotional baggage you have with some of its members. Therefore, their problem of being unable to think logically is giving you problems.

...which is entirely their fault.

tanzying wrote on Tue, 03 November 2009 19:59

I never said don't defend yourself at all. I say it is fine to defend yourself, but do it in a less incendiary way. For example:

the examples you give are several orders of magnitude more civilised than the way i've been treated, and yet who in the equation do you criticise?

tanzying wrote on Tue, 03 November 2009 19:59

It's fine if you think that it is "bullshit cop-out" and that people have been acting "pathetically". But the message could have gotten across equally well without inciting so much backlash if you had said:

"I don't understand what I have been doing wrong in these past debates, no one has clarified this with me so far."
"I am still and will always be open to considering anyone's opinion on the pointfix, provided it is logical."

i've said both these things again and again and again and again, and they still reacted with anger and bile every single time. when you said you hadn't read the pointsfix debates, you certainly spoke true.

tanzying wrote on Tue, 03 November 2009 19:59

The relationship between you and Raven seems to have gotten better since the start of this thread. I'm not exactly sure why, but I suspect mutual concessions had something to do with it.

no, it's because he's behaved in a completely different way to everybody else. this is the one and only reason.


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