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| Re: Clanwars.cc [message #408463 is a reply to message #408458] |
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| Spoony wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 19:13 |
| ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 17:06 |
the point i made about you allowing wiskey to ruin the league was to show it was a bad call for you to leave the league in his hands he not only manipulated the league to get wins he didnt deserve but he also destroyed the league and caused it to die and left it that way
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listen buddy, i had something urgent to deal with. you're basically saying that another admin didn't live up to the standards of the league when i was running the show?
here's a question, and you are not allowed to dodge it. either answer it or admit you can't answer it. if whiskey was such a terrible admin, why didn't you make another league and run it better?
| ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 17:06 |
and by the hitman thing i meant your trying hard to make it so people will actually join your league and enjoy it without people talking shit to them yet you have hitman who is PMing people and flaming them when he was not even mentioned in the topic which kind of ruins ur motive of trying to restore league dont you think?
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in principle it's a fair point, but in practice it fails because when i take a stand against far worse offenders than hitman (simpee's probably the best example), you're against it; you go out of your way to attack me for doing so.
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i think this was way before the urgent problems since i seem to remember you backing wiskey on quite a few things cause even though you was there you did not play games( excuse me if im wrong about this i do not know exactly when you had the urgent problem) but i believe wiskey was admin long before this happened if im wrong then just disregard what im saying cause i did not play so much while wiskey was an admin( due to him being so unfair)im a little hazey on the time
as for the 2nd question i do not know how to buy a league and was never interested in buying 1 since i havent believed the cw.cc league would have had much activity on it due to people not bothering to play renegade anymore(including myself and ive already given you the reasons to why i stopped playing it)
lately i have been playing fun wars and im happy playing them but i dont appreciate you lying about me saying i do not want to play in your league because of pointsfix
just to clear them up the reasons are i do not agree with quite a few things about where ur going with this league so i choose not to play it, i am happy playing the fun wars and i just cannot simply deal with the drama H2O and you will bring back to this game
only reason i bothered posting in this topic was because you said i wouldnt play anymore because of the pointsfix when that is not true
last thing i attack your choices you have made because i feel they were wrong and when u pm'd me to explain and then i explained what i thought about it you started to attack me, call names and lose your temper( i did not attack you for your views so why you do it to me?) then you had the nerve to say it was ME who lost my temper after that i just found talking to you reasonably was out of the question and a lost cause
you seem to think im doing this for simpee but im not which is why i did not fight with you on the pointsfix topic but how you reacted to the topic is what is questionable and everybody on clanwars has said the same
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| Re: Clanwars.cc [message #408468 is a reply to message #408463] |
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| ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 18:56 |
i think this was way before the urgent problems since i seem to remember you backing wiskey on quite a few things cause even though you was there you did not play games( excuse me if im wrong about this i do not know exactly when you had the urgent problem) but i believe wiskey was admin long before this happened if im wrong then just disregard what im saying cause i did not play so much while wiskey was an admin( due to him being so unfair)im a little hazey on the time
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it is true that whiskey was an admin for some time when i was still around, but during that time i did keep an eye on him and other than halo i would call him the best renadmin i recruited. if anyone else would have done a better job, perhaps they should have expressed an interest in it.
| ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 18:56 |
as for the 2nd question i do not know how to buy a league and was never interested in buying 1
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yes, i've asked that question several times and the answer is always along these lines, if they dare answer at all... not interested, not worth my time/money/trouble.
and yet when someone actually does have the time/money/trouble... myself, whiskey... we get nothing but backchat and ballache from people who could host a league but don't think the community is worth the effort. never forget that because when you've said your very worst about my admin-ness, or even whiskey's, that fact automatically beats it.
| ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 18:56 |
lately i have been playing fun wars and im happy playing them but i dont appreciate you lying about me saying i do not want to play in your league because of pointsfix
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did i mention you specifically? i think the only people i mentioned by name about their reasons for not playing in the league are simpee and clearshot. in both cases i went to the trouble of specifically examining the reasons they gave.
| ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 18:56 |
just to clear them up the reasons are i do not agree with quite a few things about where ur going with this league so i choose not to play it, i am happy playing the fun wars and i just cannot simply deal with the drama H2O and you will bring back to this game
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me? when did i ever play unfairly as a player? when was i biased as an admin? remember you've already tried using the biased admin argument and you were completely wrong, so either think carefully about your argument, or admit you're wrong on this.
| ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 18:56 |
last thing i attack your choices you have made because i feel they were wrong and when u pm'd me to explain and then i explained what i thought about it you started to attack me, call names and lose your temper( i did not attack you for your views so why you do it to me?)
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this is a euphemism for pointing out the fact that everything you said was wrong. you can either admit it or you can try twisting words around to put someone else at fault... but when you do that you only make yourself look worse. that's a lesson simpee's never learned, maybe you're a bit smarter? we'll see, i guess.
| ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 18:56 |
you seem to think im doing this for simpee but im not which is why i did not fight with you on the pointsfix topic but how you reacted to the topic is what is questionable and everybody on clanwars has said the same
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"how i reacted to the topic"? give specifics, please. what topic, how did i react and why was it "questionable"?
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| Re: Clanwars.cc [message #408495 is a reply to message #407751] |
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lol liquid instead of just replying with your usual whining you could of showed me where i "flamed" you? I dont exactly know what you call flaming someone but im pretty sure that in my and nearly everyone else's book, i never flamed you to begin with, and even if i did, i dont see why zell suddenly had to jump in?
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| Re: Clanwars.cc [message #408510 is a reply to message #408468] |
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| Spoony wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 21:05 |
| ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 18:56 |
i think this was way before the urgent problems since i seem to remember you backing wiskey on quite a few things cause even though you was there you did not play games( excuse me if im wrong about this i do not know exactly when you had the urgent problem) but i believe wiskey was admin long before this happened if im wrong then just disregard what im saying cause i did not play so much while wiskey was an admin( due to him being so unfair)im a little hazey on the time
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it is true that whiskey was an admin for some time when i was still around, but during that time i did keep an eye on him and other than halo i would call him the best renadmin i recruited. if anyone else would have done a better job, perhaps they should have expressed an interest in it.
| ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 18:56 |
as for the 2nd question i do not know how to buy a league and was never interested in buying 1
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yes, i've asked that question several times and the answer is always along these lines, if they dare answer at all... not interested, not worth my time/money/trouble.
and yet when someone actually does have the time/money/trouble... myself, whiskey... we get nothing but backchat and ballache from people who could host a league but don't think the community is worth the effort. never forget that because when you've said your very worst about my admin-ness, or even whiskey's, that fact automatically beats it.
| ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 18:56 |
lately i have been playing fun wars and im happy playing them but i dont appreciate you lying about me saying i do not want to play in your league because of pointsfix
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did i mention you specifically? i think the only people i mentioned by name about their reasons for not playing in the league are simpee and clearshot. in both cases i went to the trouble of specifically examining the reasons they gave.
| ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 18:56 |
just to clear them up the reasons are i do not agree with quite a few things about where ur going with this league so i choose not to play it, i am happy playing the fun wars and i just cannot simply deal with the drama H2O and you will bring back to this game
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me? when did i ever play unfairly as a player? when was i biased as an admin? remember you've already tried using the biased admin argument and you were completely wrong, so either think carefully about your argument, or admit you're wrong on this.
| ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 18:56 |
last thing i attack your choices you have made because i feel they were wrong and when u pm'd me to explain and then i explained what i thought about it you started to attack me, call names and lose your temper( i did not attack you for your views so why you do it to me?)
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this is a euphemism for pointing out the fact that everything you said was wrong. you can either admit it or you can try twisting words around to put someone else at fault... but when you do that you only make yourself look worse. that's a lesson simpee's never learned, maybe you're a bit smarter? we'll see, i guess.
| ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 18:56 |
you seem to think im doing this for simpee but im not which is why i did not fight with you on the pointsfix topic but how you reacted to the topic is what is questionable and everybody on clanwars has said the same
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"how i reacted to the topic"? give specifics, please. what topic, how did i react and why was it "questionable"?
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if you look earlier in this topic you mentioned simpee and zell won't play just because of the pointsfix it may be clear and simpees reason but it is not mine
i never meant you was unfair as a player i meant there is absolutely no way everybody is going to agree with decisions you make not just now but in the future and i would not like to have to deal with it so id rather not just get involved in the first place
i'm going to admit i was infact wrong on maybe 1 part of my PM but still that is no excuse at all to lose your temper especially after i admitted maybe i saw it differently to you only person who was trying to twist things about was you
how you've reacted is by acting like a baby and you ended up whining about why people wont defend you etc and you've gone onto other communities forums and still gone on about your view of what simpee and clear did when clear hasnt bothered posting about it and simpees replies are nothing to do with that topic which happened a month ago only posting pointsfix related posts
it was fine a while ago but people just dont want to hear about it anymore cause all you ever did was keep repeating it over and over again
it would be nice if you listened to what you said and would just drop it and move on with your league rather then continue to argue
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| Re: Clanwars.cc [message #408522 is a reply to message #408510] |
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| ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 06:07 |
if you look earlier in this topic you mentioned simpee and zell won't play just because of the pointsfix it may be clear and simpees reason but it is not mine
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this is true, i think i meant to say clear instead of zell... oh well, i concede the point and appreciate the correction.
| ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 06:07 |
i never meant you was unfair as a player i meant there is absolutely no way everybody is going to agree with decisions you make not just now but in the future and i would not like to have to deal with it so id rather not just get involved in the first place
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ah, so you'd rather play somewhere where there ISN'T anybody looking out for fairplay at all?
| ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 06:07 |
how you've reacted is by acting like a baby and you ended up whining about why people wont defend you etc
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i think you totally missed the point. i wasn't whining, i was posting a pretty serious critique of the clanwars community. they have a couple of pointpushers and rulebreakers going out of their way to stab an honest, fair player in the back who's done them nothing but favours, you have them telling lie after lie after lie to try to make them look bad... and people say nothing about this, indeed they criticise *me* for defending myself.
and if people say they're defending clear and simpee because they're under the impression (or misapprehension, in my view) that they're fair and honest players, then it's a pretty good question to ask why they didn't defend me when i was the one under attack, since my reputation of honesty and fairplay is better than clear and simpee's added together, and since what was being said about me was nothing more than a bunch of outright lies (whereas what i said against clear and simpee was true)
| ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 06:07 |
and you've gone onto other communities forums and still gone on about your view of what simpee and clear did
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for starters, what they did was ON ANOTHER COMMUNITY'S FORUM, so don't act like this is a strong argument.
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| Re: Clanwars.cc [message #408523 is a reply to message #408522] |
Tue, 27 October 2009 07:44 |
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| Spoony wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 09:26 |
| ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 06:07 |
if you look earlier in this topic you mentioned simpee and zell won't play just because of the pointsfix it may be clear and simpees reason but it is not mine
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this is true, i think i meant to say clear instead of zell... oh well, i concede the point and appreciate the correction.
| ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 06:07 |
i never meant you was unfair as a player i meant there is absolutely no way everybody is going to agree with decisions you make not just now but in the future and i would not like to have to deal with it so id rather not just get involved in the first place
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ah, so you'd rather play somewhere where there ISN'T anybody looking out for fairplay at all?
| ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 06:07 |
how you've reacted is by acting like a baby and you ended up whining about why people wont defend you etc
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i think you totally missed the point. i wasn't whining, i was posting a pretty serious critique of the clanwars community. they have a couple of pointpushers and rulebreakers going out of their way to stab an honest, fair player in the back who's done them nothing but favours, you have them telling lie after lie after lie to try to make them look bad... and people say nothing about this, indeed they criticise *me* for defending myself.
and if people say they're defending clear and simpee because they're under the impression (or misapprehension, in my view) that they're fair and honest players, then it's a pretty good question to ask why they didn't defend me when i was the one under attack, since my reputation of honesty and fairplay is better than clear and simpee's added together, and since what was being said about me was nothing more than a bunch of outright lies (whereas what i said against clear and simpee was true)
| ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 06:07 |
and you've gone onto other communities forums and still gone on about your view of what simpee and clear did
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for starters, what they did was ON ANOTHER COMMUNITY'S FORUM, so don't act like this is a strong argument.
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no i meant drama involving pretty much like this, involving you making a decision which the community doesnt share and then there ends up being a huge fight on the forums
and now your missing my point you have said what you needed to say about them breaking the rules but there was in all honesty no reason to keep repeating it mike simply stated he thought the league wouldnt be a proper league without simpee and clear as competition and he didnt think they should be considered cheaters and he just wanted the arguing to stop
in the end you started wondering why he was defending them when all he was stating was an opinion which most people share on the forums, that they feel the league would infact be better off with these 2 as competition regardless of what they have done
you saw it as some kind of defense and started moaning about why no one defended you
as for this topic thing the topic was being argued on the jelly forums then eventually everybody seemed to have got tired of reading same stuff over and over again and gave up on it but now if you look you will find it is on clanwars.cc it is on exodus and it is on this forum( all this happened on the jelly forums yet you have continually put what happened in that topic on each of these forums and maybe more i havent checked any others).
i just find it ridiculous and childish to keep going on about it and i dont think an admin should really keep doing what you are doing
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| Re: Clanwars.cc [message #408524 is a reply to message #408523] |
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| ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 08:44 |
no i meant drama involving pretty much like this, involving you making a decision which the community doesnt share and then there ends up being a huge fight on the forums
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Which decision? They're all up for civilised debate. Go check the clanwars forums; some decisions are actually be affected by the debates... skins, for example.
| ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 08:44 |
and now your missing my point you have said what you needed to say about them breaking the rules but there was in all honesty no reason to keep repeating it
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It's very hard to take this seriously when you've said nothing bad against clear and simpee. They "kept repeating it" too... at least what I said was actually true.
| ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 08:44 |
mike simply stated he thought the league wouldnt be a proper league without simpee and clear as competition and he didnt think they should be considered cheaters and he just wanted the arguing to stop
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Check the thread again... once again it was up to me to be the better man. I dropped it and said they can both play in the league so long as they try playing fairly and abiding by the rules... this is in spite of everything they've done.
| ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 08:44 |
in the end you started wondering why he was defending them when all he was stating was an opinion which most people share on the forums, that they feel the league would infact be better off with these 2 as competition regardless of what they have done
you saw it as some kind of defense and started moaning about why no one defended you
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read what i just said about this, it's very simple.
| ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 08:44 |
but now if you look you will find it is on clanwars.cc it is on exodus and it is on this forum( all this happened on the jelly forums yet you have continually put what happened in that topic on each of these forums and maybe more i havent checked any others).
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clanwars? it seems like it belongs on clanwars.
jelly? clear and simpee started their ridiculous campaign of lies there, not me.
exodus? some other players brought it up, i just answered their questions.
and here seems like a fairly appropriate place to mention it too, since we're talking about revitalising the league.
anyway, what's your huge objection to me talking about this? is it because it totally humiliates your friends? people post all sorts of ridiculous crap to flame me all the time, i don't see you complaining about that.
| ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 08:44 |
i just find it ridiculous and childish to keep going on about it and i dont think an admin should really keep doing what you are doing
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taking a hard line against people like clear and simpee? defending himself against false accusations? i think that's exactly what an admin should be doing.
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| Re: Clanwars.cc [message #408528 is a reply to message #407751] |
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we both have different views on how an admin should move on you find continually making them out to be liars cheaters etc in every communities forums.
i think you should just answer and then leave it since you already said you successfully made your point and prooved them to be liars etc there is really no need to emphasize on it and continue on 3 other different forums about it
my objection with this is rather then wasting your time repeating what you've said on other community forums and you can't say you was the bigger man and dropped it when there is posts on other forums STILL going on about it but i would like to see you concentrate on making the league active again because i would like to see clanwars being played actively again
i think all that arguing and you repeating yourself over and over again did more damage then it did any good for the league and everybody in the topic seemed to see it but you
you may think differently but others(including me) believe it may have lured people away from the league
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| Re: Clanwars.cc [message #408534 is a reply to message #408521] |
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| ELiT3FLyR wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 08:06 |
wow hitman that must be the biggest pussy-out ive ever seen considering ur first few posts
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im leaving things to my twin brother spoony now, he's even worse!1
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| Re: Clanwars.cc [message #408607 is a reply to message #408528] |
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| ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 10:24 |
we both have different views on how an admin should move on you find continually making them out to be liars cheaters etc in every communities forums.
i think you should just answer and then leave it since you already said you successfully made your point and prooved them to be liars etc there is really no need to emphasize on it and continue on 3 other different forums about it
my objection with this is rather then wasting your time repeating what you've said on other community forums and you can't say you was the bigger man and dropped it when there is posts on other forums STILL going on about it but i would like to see you concentrate on making the league active again because i would like to see clanwars being played actively again
i think all that arguing and you repeating yourself over and over again did more damage then it did any good for the league and everybody in the topic seemed to see it but you
you may think differently but others(including me) believe it may have lured people away from the league
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here's why nothing you say can be taken seriously. you wanna talk about driving players away from the league? how about me? the first few times people asked me to come back to the league, i didn't want to. i thought the community wasn't worth my time. ask td, bluelabel, hitman...
i eventually reconsidered because i thought there might be enough players in the league to make it worthwhile, and i thought i could return the league to something approaching its status 2-3 years ago when i was in charge, i.e. very fair and approachable. then i see shit like what clear and simpee tried to do. they tried to drive me away; me, whose reputation for fairplay and honesty is far better than theirs, who's at least comparable skill-wise (i won't assert that i'm better than simpee because he's made it plain how hurtful he finds that), and bonus, the only person with the dedication to run a clan league for so long.
and here's the thing: YOU HAVE NEVER CRITICISED WHAT THEY DID. this is why i can't take you seriously. you can be judged not only by what you say, but by what you don't say. you can tell someone's priorities not just by what they criticise, but what they obviously don't care about (if not actually approve of)
if anyone tries whingeing about a fair, skilled player being harrassed out of the league, but they DIDN'T say anything about what clear and simpee tried to do to me, they just can't be taken seriously.
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| Re: Clanwars.cc [message #408648 is a reply to message #407751] |
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drive you away? you mean the fact you told the jelly community that you think we should only get half the ladder because were not using your pointsfix? if so then obviously some people are going to take that badly cause people like simpee etc obviously hate the pointsfix maybe they didnt have to bring shit up which happened in the past to try and disencourage people to play it(i agree maybe it was a bit too much) but still its obviously clear you intimidate them because of how ridiculously far you go to get this points fix on every server( you can't say you didnt try disencouraging people to play in jelly because they would only get half the ladder then in a pointsfix server)
your both as bad as the other in this regard
if anything each of you is trying to drive away the other
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| Re: Clanwars.cc [message #408649 is a reply to message #408648] |
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| ZeLL wrote on Wed, 28 October 2009 07:58 |
drive you away? you mean the fact you told the jelly community that you think we should only get half the ladder because were not using your pointsfix?
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Firstly it's not 'my' pointsfix. Secondly this is a compromise over the original position, which was to not allow pointsbug servers to be laddered at all.
The ladder weighting system is, I think, a good idea. Some server settings are clearly more strategic than others; do you not agree that a server with 0 start credits is more strategic than one with 9999 start credits? So we came up with a weighting system. eg if donate is on then that's -20%, another -10% if weapon drops are on, etc. Pointsfix makes the game more strategic in so many ways (even most of the anti-pointsfix crowd have conceded this) so what's wrong with giving that a positive weight on the ladder?
Everyone generally agreed that the weighting system itself was a good idea, but they couldn't stand the idea of the pointsfix being one of the criteria, even though the very same people (for the most part) had already conceded that the pointsfix is fairer and more strategic than the pointsbug.
| ZeLL wrote on Wed, 28 October 2009 07:58 |
if so then obviously some people are going to take that badly cause people like simpee etc obviously hate the pointsfix maybe they didnt have to bring shit up which happened in the past to try and disencourage people to play it(i agree maybe it was a bit too much)
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Change the word "bring" for "make" and you're nearer the mark.
| ZeLL wrote on Wed, 28 October 2009 07:58 |
but still its obviously clear you intimidate them because of how ridiculously far you go to get this points fix on every server( you can't say you didnt try disencouraging people to play in jelly because they would only get half the ladder then in a pointsfix server)
your both as bad as the other in this regard
if anything each of you is trying to drive away the other
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No, I was trying to make the official ladder as fair as possible, to make it actually worth something.
And don't go saying simpee and I are "both as bad as the other". I'm absolutely fine with a community choosing not to use the pointsfix. Really, I am. Simpee has said many times that I should not be allowed to use the pointsfix in my community. Not only that but when I wanted to use the pointsfix first time around, he was part of a campaign of lies and manipulation and sabotage to subvert the admin's decision. No, don't go saying we're both as bad as each other.
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u are the one who argued for 30 pages+ on jelly forums, and i am the one who told u to lock the topic on clanwars. im fine with u using pointfix on ur league its just a shame u choose to isolate like 6 or 7 people when thats 2-3 clans right there
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if so then obviously some people are going to take that badly cause people like simpee etc obviously hate the pointsfix maybe they didnt have to bring shit up which happened in the past to try and disencourage people to play it
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dont tell me u really believe that, spoony was the one who bought up clears pointpushing 4 years ago and started the whos better argument aswell. he then continued it on the clanwars forum because he got all pissy when clear kicked him from ts.
i wouldnt even have to try and sabotage his league because his non-stop essays of nothingness and hitmans tough guy act do a pretty good job of driving new players away already.
its just like this topic really, a post about the league is made, liquid disagrees with something or other, spoony begins to essay, hitman jumps in tells liquid to stfu and maintaines the bad clanwars reputation.
the sad thing is you keep blaming me and clear for this kinda shit when i didnt post until hitman directly attacks me. and still here you are aruging with zell(who u also dragged into this) and being unable to move on or ignore his post, and further reinforcing the fact that clanwars is made up of a bunch of retards.
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| ELiT3FLyR wrote on Wed, 28 October 2009 15:46 |
u are the one who argued for 30 pages+ on jelly forums
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I'm the one who actually posted my ideas about the ladder and defended my position; wasn't me who turned into personal attacks and lying to make the other person look bad.
| ELiT3FLyR wrote on Wed, 28 October 2009 15:46 |
and i am the one who told u to lock the topic on clanwars.
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Of course you did, you'd already been completely humiliated on jelly and you probably suspected you'd have even less luck at clanwars.
| ELiT3FLyR wrote on Wed, 28 October 2009 15:46 |
im fine with u using pointfix on ur league
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Cool, that's a complete reversal of everything you've ever said on the subject. I'm glad to hear that.
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dont tell me u really believe that, spoony was the one who bought up clears pointpushing 4 years ago
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yes, in rebuttal to personal attacks from clearshot. and you've never really stopped bringing up h2o supposedly pointpushing in the same month, have you? you even lied to everyone (again) to try to implicate me in it.
| ELiT3FLyR wrote on Wed, 28 October 2009 15:46 |
and started the whos better argument aswell.
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totally untrue, you're the one who originally used this. I wouldn't base my argument on this, because -a- I don't need to, I've got enough evidence and logic on my side anyway, and -b- if I did, don't you think I'd be saying it to almost everybody instead of just you?
| ELiT3FLyR wrote on Wed, 28 October 2009 15:46 |
he then continued it on the clanwars forum because he got all pissy when clear kicked him from ts.
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wow lol... you're trying to paint me as the bad guy for pointing out how gay clearshot was acting AGAIN after i did absolutely nothing wrong to him.
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QQ more Zell ya little drama queen, and nice ReneEssays. November 2009 and your still fightin' the cause, lol.
All the lies you are telling about me is pretty ridiculous... I can't believe how personal you take this old game.
I was an admin of clanwars during some of the busiest periods of the manual league. You have no idea when I was an admin.
While I was admin, I'd like to add, I was 100% fair and never biased. I was watched like a hawk (since I was a competitor as well) by Spoony, and a lot of the community had guessed I was an admin so they also watched my decisions closely. You can bet your ass that if I ever made a decision that favoured H2O, there would of been an uproar, a 25+ page flamewar thread, and Spoony would of fired me quickly.
I was never accused of biased judgements as an admin. I filed all the AR's/Am's, set up the First 2 Fives, and did my job. Your welcome you ungrateful punk.
The league died when SMAK forums got shutdown... it had nothing to do with me. Go look at the Hall of Champions and you can see when the league suddenly died.
I've played 2500 manual league clanwars myself, and h2o has played 4600... I'd like to think I played a big part in keeping the clanwar league running as long as it did.
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| Re: Clanwars.cc [message #409428 is a reply to message #407751] |
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poor nerds from the halo league are ddosing it
this is what Shortbus (cw.cc website owner) posted a while ago: http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=524776
sad...
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Legend has it, that long long ago before the tiberum wars, Havoc and Sakura conceived a love child in the backseat of a GDI Hum-vee. 9 months later, IsItInYou popped out and headshot them both, then nuked their refinery.
how did the baby get a gun?! rgGh probably
so the baby spectated both his parents and drove home from the C&C_Hospital.mix in the humvee parked outside?!
3 wisemen came bearing gifts: credits, tiberium, and murr, whatever the FUCK that is. IsItInYou was nailed to the obelisk, but respawned 3 days later and performed miracles.
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| Re: Clanwars.cc [message #409472 is a reply to message #409464] |
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continuation of the same problem
i currently have two plans in motion, if either of them works out then the problem will be solved... that's all i'll say for now.
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| Re: Clanwars.cc [message #409526 is a reply to message #407751] |
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use your brain jamie
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by Whiskey @ clanwars.cc
Legend has it, that long long ago before the tiberum wars, Havoc and Sakura conceived a love child in the backseat of a GDI Hum-vee. 9 months later, IsItInYou popped out and headshot them both, then nuked their refinery.
how did the baby get a gun?! rgGh probably
so the baby spectated both his parents and drove home from the C&C_Hospital.mix in the humvee parked outside?!
3 wisemen came bearing gifts: credits, tiberium, and murr, whatever the FUCK that is. IsItInYou was nailed to the obelisk, but respawned 3 days later and performed miracles.
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| Re: Clanwars.cc [message #409558 is a reply to message #407751] |
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try not to live in front of your PC simpee, you might get a girlfriend and some color on your skin
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by Whiskey @ clanwars.cc
Legend has it, that long long ago before the tiberum wars, Havoc and Sakura conceived a love child in the backseat of a GDI Hum-vee. 9 months later, IsItInYou popped out and headshot them both, then nuked their refinery.
how did the baby get a gun?! rgGh probably
so the baby spectated both his parents and drove home from the C&C_Hospital.mix in the humvee parked outside?!
3 wisemen came bearing gifts: credits, tiberium, and murr, whatever the FUCK that is. IsItInYou was nailed to the obelisk, but respawned 3 days later and performed miracles.
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