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C&C Snow and C&C Mars up for download. [message #40753] Tue, 19 August 2003 14:36 Go to next message
Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
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The Snow image link is broken, but is getting fixed.
C&C Snow and C&C Mars up for download. [message #40760] Tue, 19 August 2003 15:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just played mars in singleplayer LAN to look around and it's great. The bases are futher away than I first thought. I love the music in the background. The GDI com center is also good, nice interior. There is a big glitch in the map with the Construction yards. It doesn't look like VIS glitches but like your looking through a culled backface. I'm sure it's simple to fix, check the screens on the server below.

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C&C Snow and C&C Mars up for download. [message #40763] Tue, 19 August 2003 15:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You're using the wrong version of Basin. Either delete the Basin mix file or bring in the BasinTS version.

Or you can upgrade Basin to the latest version which is on C&C Den. It has a ramp instead of an elevator, which is how I know you're using the wrong version. I can almost guarantee that the vis issues are because of the wrong Basin version.
C&C Snow and C&C Mars up for download. [message #40766] Tue, 19 August 2003 15:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ah that would be why. I did have the latest version but i installed a renbattle map pack with basin in, it probably overwrote the newer one i had installed. Thanks, I'm sure some other people may come across this problem too.

A question - What happens if the server is running the version with the ramp and the clien happens to be running the older one with the elevator? Will the server attempt to throw them out as it doesn't think the location is valid?


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C&C Snow and C&C Mars up for download. [message #40769] Tue, 19 August 2003 15:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You just can't find your way out of the CY, that's all that happens.
C&C Snow and C&C Mars up for download. [message #40770] Tue, 19 August 2003 15:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, that happened to me.

I couldn't get out of the CY.


C&C Snow and C&C Mars up for download. [message #40774] Tue, 19 August 2003 15:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nice maps.
Both look good and snow will be utter chaos in servers of 20 players or more. One thing though, in the middle of snow there's an infantry only part that reminds me of the single player ship level. Did you use textures from there or am I going crazy?


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C&C Snow and C&C Mars up for download. [message #40777] Tue, 19 August 2003 16:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The middle part is the ship interior, yes.
C&C Snow and C&C Mars up for download. [message #40779] Tue, 19 August 2003 16:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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IMO for mars you can better use the buildings used for flying because you can jump to most spots now anyway.
C&C Snow and C&C Mars up for download. [message #40781] Tue, 19 August 2003 16:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, but it's more fun when you have to use your brain to figure out where you can jump to get up somewhere, instead of having a ramp that gives you access.
C&C Snow and C&C Mars up for download. [message #40808] Tue, 19 August 2003 17:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The Advanced CC's are lit up like Christmas trees.

I have to complement you on how well C&C Mars is done.


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C&C Snow and C&C Mars up for download. [message #40810] Tue, 19 August 2003 18:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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1. The terrain textures on C&C_Mars are too repetative.

2. A large majority of the terrain on C&C_Mars is too flat. Even if the real Mars may have large areas that are flat, it's not aesthetically pleasing as a level. I could model some plains from Kansas and make them accurate, but it would be horrible as a graphically satisfying level. Make the map accurate, but accurate to a more interesting part of Mars.

3. The real terrain of Mars is sandy with rocks, not rocky with sand. Your base texture is a rock, and you've only got small patches of sand. Obviously it's understandable not being able to include accurate amounts of rock, but you should have made the terrain accurately sandy.

3. There's a missing texture in the GDI Communications Center.

4. The tunnels in Mars are too boring to walk through with infantry, it takes over twice as long to get to the base through the tunnels rather than above ground. Allow vehicles in them.

4. You can tunnel beacon the GDI War Factory into yellow health on Snow.

5. This one speaks for itself.
C&C Snow and C&C Mars up for download. [message #40821] Tue, 19 August 2003 18:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Snow, i like, it could be intersting
Mars, i do not like, taximes summed it up, its very plain, and doesnt really give a 'Mars' like feel.


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C&C Snow and C&C Mars up for download. [message #40826] Tue, 19 August 2003 18:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I like it, I was just pointing out the things that could be better.
C&C Snow and C&C Mars up for download. [message #40835] Tue, 19 August 2003 18:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Taximes

1. The terrain textures on C&C_Mars are too repetative.


Of course. Look at something from the soldier's point of view and it isn't too repetitive. Horrible tiling is when you have a UVW map across a level that's just too large and makes you feel like you're in that "Honey, I Shrunk the Kids" movie.

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2. A large majority of the terrain on C&C_Mars is too flat. Even if the real Mars may have large areas that are flat, it's not aesthetically pleasing as a level. I could model some plains from Kansas and make them accurate, but it would be horrible as a graphically satisfying level. Make the map accurate, but accurate to a more interesting part of Mars.


No, you're looking at graphics only. I'm looking at both graphics and gameplay. There's three main routes to get to each base - you go through the center, which is relatively flat, through the right side by the Advanced Communications Center, which is lower and provides infantry cover, or you go to the left side, which is the high-ground and provides a large area to hide as you traverse the level to the enemy base.

That image you provided is an inaccessible area, and it's rather pointless to give it a lot of detail. The polygon count already exceeded 20,000 and I'd rather keep it around 20,000-21,000.

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3. The real terrain of Mars is sandy with rocks, not rocky with sand. Your base texture is a rock, and you've only got small patches of sand. Obviously it's understandable not being able to include accurate amounts of rock, but you should have made the terrain accurately sandy.


Not everything in Mars is sandy with rocks. The terrain texture itself isn't really rock, but more along the lines of hard dirt. There's a lot of sand areas, soft impact cracked sand, and other assorted areas.

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3. There's a missing texture in the GDI Communications Center.


I'm almost positive that was fixed considering the texture is in there.

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4. The tunnels in Mars are too boring to walk through with infantry, it takes over twice as long to get to the base through the tunnels rather than above ground. Allow vehicles in them.


If vehicles go in them, it kills the purpose of having an infantry only area, you know. While it may take longer to traverse the level through the caverns, there is no danger from vehicles and there are also weapon spawners below ground.

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4. You can tunnel beacon the GDI War Factory into yellow health on Snow.


Not fixing it because beacons are supposed to have a damage radius. We all know this.

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5. This one speaks for itself.


I don't see anything wrong with it.
C&C Snow and C&C Mars up for download. [message #40848] Tue, 19 August 2003 19:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think the maps are well done. I didn't go into too much eperimenting with the levels, but a couple of things I noticed with Snow.

First when your GDI, using the tunnel to get to Nod, you can't go up the edges on the Nod side of the tunnel. You end up getting redirected and slide back down. And two, the MRLS reload sound is awful. It sounds like a sound error happened during the recording, it's just a loud electronic buzz.
C&C Snow and C&C Mars up for download. [message #40852] Tue, 19 August 2003 19:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Actually, it sounds like missiles being loaded out of canisters. That's the exact sound.
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When I jump from the top of the infantry structure in Snow, I take no damage. Is it supposed to do that?

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C&C Snow and C&C Mars up for download. [message #40868] Tue, 19 August 2003 20:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller

Actually, it sounds like missiles being loaded out of canisters. That's the exact sound.


lol, ok then. I didn't realize that. Still sound awful though. I feel sorry for the techicians that operate them now.
C&C Snow and C&C Mars up for download. [message #40907] Wed, 20 August 2003 01:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah I loaded up the map on my other PC and it sounds terrible with the MRLS reloading. On my PC that has an Audigy running Creative EAX 2 it sounds fine. Must be just something about the recording of it.

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C&C Snow and C&C Mars up for download. [message #40913] Wed, 20 August 2003 02:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Im sorry for ever commenting on anything youve done in the past...now youll seem like its just a normal negative post but,....

These maps are not up to your Standards....Mars??..Why did you ever waste your time on that pile of horribly Textured garbage....The alpha blend in areas looks like crap...It's repeditive all around,Gameplay with 8 players was a joke...Ramps should of been added instead of trying to jump thru Laggy condtions to get to a beacon on top of a structure...I'll stop and move onto snow....

Snow was fun for the whole 5 mins it lasted.....atleast it was interesting,a bit bright,Kind of glad it only lasted 5 mins.

Stick to WW maps,Maybe a MesaTS or a Cityflying version 1.6 is in order

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C&C Snow and C&C Mars up for download. [message #40923] Wed, 20 August 2003 03:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This map just makes me aggravated, exasperated, perturbed, put out, riley, upset, uptight, worked up, wrought (up); angered, enraged, incensed, infuriate, infuriated, maddened, sore, vexed; orey-eyed, red-faced, wild-eyed..
Im foaming at the mouth, hot under the collar, in a taking, in a temper (or rage), mad as a hornet (or wet hen) when i play this map..

The map was crazy, daft, demented, deranged, and unbalanced.
I was going delirious and started to notice the changes in the map were put in by someone who is a damfool, donkey, imbecile, jackass, jerk, nincompoop, ninny, feeb, half-wit, imbecile, moron, natural, simpleton, and zany.
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I take it you didn't find the map acceptable, ace, admirable, agreeable, capital, choice, commendable, congenial, deluxe, excellent, exceptional, favorable, first-class, first-rate, gnarly, gratifying, great, honorable, marvelous, neato, nice, pleasing, positive, precious, prime, rad, recherché, reputable, satisfactory, satisfying, select, shipshape, sound, spanking, splendid, sterling, stupendous, super, superb, supereminent, superexcellent, superior, tip-top, valuable, welcome, wonderful, worthy ?

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