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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #406866 is a reply to message #406859] |
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| Acey#GW wrote on Wed, 14 October 2009 14:35 |
I have my reservations about certain members of TT, but its not really relevant to this. I think the Jelly community was reasonable at times. (Raven for example) But everyone reacts different, and IMO, you went about this wrongly. Thus provoking bad reactions.
A private discussion would have sorted an amicable solution. But all this had done is distance a sizeable chunk of the renegade community away from the rest.
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Excuse me, but I get a "bad reaction" from the Jelly community no matter what I do. For example, saying "actually no I haven't cheated" in response to two moderators publicly asserting that I did (or two and a quarter if you count joetorp) provoked the same kind of vitriol we see in this thread.
Secondly, as I've said, the fact the a00 names have always been dealt with through shady deals behind closed doors is precisely the problem in the first place.
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #406912 is a reply to message #406907] |
Wed, 14 October 2009 21:38 |
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| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Wed, 14 October 2009 21:04 |
SPOONY YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG JACKAS AND YOU THE POINTSFIX JUST YOU CREATE BALANCE FUCK YOU BIG JAKAS YOUR POINTSFIX IS BAD YOU WANT I WRUGHT THIS THE POINTSFIX IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR
YOUR PROMESS POINTFIX WIRH A OPTION TO DESABLE IT AND IS DONT JUST SPOONY I TELL IT ALL REPLYER IN THIS FORUM I DESLIKE YOU.
That about sums up people's arguments against Spoony on this issue.
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Really? What you wrote was not only humorous, but shows respect for the history and tradition of these forums. I'd call it borderline blasphemous to compare anything that's been posted so far in this thread to the I DESLIKE YOU.
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #406922 is a reply to message #406866] |
Wed, 14 October 2009 23:34 |
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| Spoony wrote on Wed, 14 October 2009 22:46 |
Secondly, as I've said, the fact the a00 names have always been dealt with through shady deals behind closed doors is precisely the problem in the first place.
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Win.
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #406923 is a reply to message #406912] |
Wed, 14 October 2009 23:35 |
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| Dover wrote on Wed, 14 October 2009 23:38 |
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Wed, 14 October 2009 21:04 |
SPOONY YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG JACKAS AND YOU THE POINTSFIX JUST YOU CREATE BALANCE FUCK YOU BIG JAKAS YOUR POINTSFIX IS BAD YOU WANT I WRUGHT THIS THE POINTSFIX IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR
YOUR PROMESS POINTFIX WIRH A OPTION TO DESABLE IT AND IS DONT JUST SPOONY I TELL IT ALL REPLYER IN THIS FORUM I DESLIKE YOU.
That about sums up people's arguments against Spoony on this issue.
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Really? What you wrote was not only humorous, but shows respect for the history and tradition of these forums. I'd call it borderline blasphemous to compare anything that's been posted so far in this thread to the I DESLIKE YOU.
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Please tell me you're joking...
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #406995 is a reply to message #406866] |
Thu, 15 October 2009 15:25 |
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| Spoony wrote on Wed, 14 October 2009 22:46 |
| Acey#GW wrote on Wed, 14 October 2009 14:35 |
I have my reservations about certain members of TT, but its not really relevant to this. I think the Jelly community was reasonable at times. (Raven for example) But everyone reacts different, and IMO, you went about this wrongly. Thus provoking bad reactions.
A private discussion would have sorted an amicable solution. But all this had done is distance a sizeable chunk of the renegade community away from the rest.
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Excuse me, but I get a "bad reaction" from the Jelly community no matter what I do. For example, saying "actually no I haven't cheated" in response to two moderators publicly asserting that I did (or two and a quarter if you count joetorp) provoked the same kind of vitriol we see in this thread.
Secondly, as I've said, the fact the a00 names have always been dealt with through shady deals behind closed doors is precisely the problem in the first place.
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I'm not saying you don't, what I meant was that you were going to get a bad reaction for doing it. Surely you couldn't have expected anything different?
My other point still stands, all this has done is distance one community away from the rest. Over something which becomes IRRELEVANT when the team you are part of, finishes their work.
Was there really any need for this?
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #406997 is a reply to message #406995] |
Thu, 15 October 2009 15:31 |
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| Acey#GW wrote on Thu, 15 October 2009 17:25 |
I'm not saying you don't, what I meant was that you were going to get a bad reaction for doing it. Surely you couldn't have expected anything different?
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you say nothing about the appalling way i've been treated by the jelly community despite absolutely no provocation, but you criticise me for... um, what, exactly? "you should have expected it"? well, i did expect more of the same, but i say what i think... and the consequences of other people's intolerance to dissenting opinion can, in my view, go fuck themselves. i'm not terribly sorry to tell you that you're being manipulated.
| Acey#GW wrote on Thu, 15 October 2009 17:25 |
My other point still stands, all this has done is distance one community away from the rest.
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you mean people have finally seen the situation for what it is and how its monopolisers have reacted to legitimate criticism?
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #406999 is a reply to message #406997] |
Thu, 15 October 2009 15:50 |
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| Spoony wrote on Fri, 16 October 2009 00:31 |
| Acey#GW wrote on Thu, 15 October 2009 17:25 |
I'm not saying you don't, what I meant was that you were going to get a bad reaction for doing it. Surely you couldn't have expected anything different?
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you say nothing about the appalling way i've been treated by the jelly community despite absolutely no provocation, but you criticise me for... um, what, exactly? "you should have expected it"? well, i did expect more of the same, but i say what i think... and the consequences of other people's intolerance to dissenting opinion can, in my view, go fuck themselves. i'm not terribly sorry to tell you that you're being manipulated.
| Acey#GW wrote on Thu, 15 October 2009 17:25 |
My other point still stands, all this has done is distance one community away from the rest.
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you mean people have finally seen the situation for what it is and how its monopolisers have reacted to legitimate criticism?
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Woah! I wasn't in any way criticising you. And in no way would i be manipulated over issues within a game. I am in by no means defending the Jelly community, i'm just raising a few points. Reasoned debate and all that?
So you're okay with fracturing the already small renegade community?
But i have to say you avoided the main point of the post. The one about the server names becoming irrelevant when TT completes the patch?
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #407048 is a reply to message #405549] |
Thu, 15 October 2009 23:41 |
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I have a feeling that the 'interim period' (from now until the TT push by EA) will be more important than most of us think, which would explain why Spoony started this.
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #407056 is a reply to message #405549] |
Fri, 16 October 2009 01:46 |
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It depends on how long this interim period is going to be, surely?
Do we even have an estimate on when the patch will be done?( i haven't seen one)
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #407057 is a reply to message #407056] |
Fri, 16 October 2009 01:54 |
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| Acey#GW wrote on Fri, 16 October 2009 10:46 |
It depends on how long this interim period is going to be, surely?
Do we even have an estimate on when the patch will be done?( i haven't seen one)
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I have no reasons to believe we'll see anything TT related before 2010...
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #407411 is a reply to message #405549] |
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Jelly left the thread, citing some form of personal attack by Spoony (Check page 13-14 I think). He actually requested that I remove his account from these forums, it is neither policy, nor am I able to do that, so I haven't, but it's quite clear he doesn't care, which is a pity.
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| R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 11 October 2010 15:35 |
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #408387 is a reply to message #405549] |
Mon, 26 October 2009 10:54 |
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Why would someone hand this power over from a person who, as you stated, has never abused it before to a team that contains a few people who have proven their self not to be trustworthy at all, in the past. A person who deletes her own topics questioning this same matter where obviously all of the replies vote against her, or someone who has always been supported by the Jellycomm but decided to suddenly change his mind and backstab the community for it contains a few people who disagree with his opinion.
Im not saying TT is bad or can't be trusted, not even close, it contains several close friends who I do honor for all their efforts for the community.
I just find it a hard decision giving these nicknames to a group that contains a few people of who I think, can't handle the power. Especially when they currently remain in the hands of someone who I would trust with my most valuable belongings.
Considering the EA support argument, we both know EA couldn't care less about Westwood's old stuff. Of course they will welcome the first group with open arms who offer support to a game that is bleeding to death. I do not really consider that trustworthy.
F.Y.I. This is not meant as hate towards TT. Like I said, TT contains several friends who I believe are really using TT as the right way to fight for the existence of Renegade and are not power-happy or anything like that. I really hope they keep up the excellent work they have put in the renegade community so far.
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #408388 is a reply to message #405549] |
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Then, as I've already stated, give them to someone neutral, for example, (although by the very fact I've been moderating this topic, not me) myself, as if there would be any bias, it would be back towards Jelly.
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| halokid wrote on Mon, 11 October 2010 08:46 |
| R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 11 October 2010 15:35 |
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #408389 is a reply to message #408387] |
Mon, 26 October 2009 11:07 |
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| Herr wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 11:54 |
Why would someone hand this power over from a person who, as you stated, has never abused it before to a team that contains a few people who have proven their self not to be trustworthy at all, in the past.
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like i said, if TT handled it we'd handle it responsibly and with transparency.
| Herr wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 11:54 |
or someone who has always been supported by the Jellycomm but decided to suddenly change his mind and backstab the community for it contains a few people who disagree with his opinion.
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i don't think you could possibly have gotten the situation any more wrong than this sentence.
| Herr wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 11:54 |
Considering the EA support argument, we both know EA couldn't care less about Westwood's old stuff. Of course they will welcome the first group with open arms who offer support to a game that is bleeding to death. I do not really consider that trustworthy.
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excuse me, but no. they don't give away authority like control over a game's patcher lightly. it is true they don't care about renegade as much as they should, but that doesn't follow from this.
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