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| Re: Skins are for fags? [message #407562 is a reply to message #405375] |
Mon, 19 October 2009 05:48   |
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JohnDoe
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You can't change the texture's resolution, so in 2009 every texture you change will still look awkward...just take the game for what it is and stop being a homo.
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| Re: Skins are for fags? [message #407563 is a reply to message #407562] |
Mon, 19 October 2009 05:59 |
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GEORGE ZIMMER
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| JohnDoe wrote on Mon, 19 October 2009 07:48 |
You can't change the texture's resolution, so in 2009 every texture you change will still look awkward...just take the game for what it is and stop being a homo.
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Changing the color scheme and such can have some decent results, actually. A good example would be:
http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=34790&start=0&rid=2 0896
It's not overbearing, but it makes it more like how it should be. It's also easier on the eyes.
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| cAmpa wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 12:45 |
Scrin, stop pming people to get the building bars.
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FUCK YOU AND THIS SHIT GAME WITH YOUR SCRIPTS!!! I HAVE ASKING YOU AND ANOTHER NOOBS HERE ABOUT HELP WITH THAT BUILDING ICONS FEATURES FOR YEARS, BUT YOU KEEP IGNORING ME AND KEEP WRITE SHIT, SO BURN YOU AND YOUR ASSLICKERS FRIENDS, THIS TIME I'M NOT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!   
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| Re: Skins are for fags? [message #407592 is a reply to message #405375] |
Mon, 19 October 2009 08:32 |
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JohnDoe
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Is that a new map or just new textures/models? Still looks like a game that was technically outdated the day it shipped nearly 8 years ago...I believe it's time to look at this game in nostalgia instead of trying to cure a hopeless case of visual cancer.
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| Re: Skins are for fags? [message #407665 is a reply to message #405375] |
Mon, 19 October 2009 14:40 |
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JohnDoe
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The W3D engine is capable of higher resolution textures and a few improved effects as shown in Renalert/Reborn, but you can't change Renegade like that without turning it into a mod...and even with the "improved graphics", these mods look hideous compared to Halo, which was released back in 2001. The W3D engine has the most messed up physics of any game I've ever played. I guess the vehicles behave OK in most battle situations, but jumping a Warthog still is lots of fun in 2009, while Renegade vehicles either seem ridiculously nose-heavy or strangely behave like a feather in the massive artillery's case. The character physics are nonexistent. Your character changes directions without slowing down at all and every engine since the release of Doom in 1993 has realized that you should be pushed back a bit if something (rocket/grenade/barrel) just exploded in your face. Renegade has great gameplay, but everything else is terrible...including the engine.
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| Re: Skins are for fags? [message #407704 is a reply to message #405375] |
Mon, 19 October 2009 19:26 |
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R315r4z0r
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I'm not disagreeing that it's not the prettiest engine. But it is user friendly and opens up a lot of creativity for people.
However, the only differences this engine has to a game like halo, is it's visual effects and physics. Halo had a light blending thing going on as well as bump/normal mapped textures. If Halo did not have these visual effects, it would look the same as it does on the W3D engine just because of the fact that you can't change how a model looks by looking at it through a different window.
Models are models. They look the way they are designed to look in the modeling program (such as 3DsMax) You can't change their appearance or quality by putting them into different engines.
I can extract a Halo map from Halo and put it in W3D and it would look the same. The only differences would be the obvious physics and visual effects such as bloom, shaders, and texture resolution.
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| Re: Skins are for fags? [message #407731 is a reply to message #405375] |
Tue, 20 October 2009 00:27 |
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JohnDoe
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So your point is that the W3D engine isn't worse than the Halo engine except for the things the Halo engine is better at??? And if you want modability, I heard there's this Unreal engine released in 98 that looks about as good as Renegade and became quite popular with modders...all that came of Ren were failed projects and gay server side mods.
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| Re: Skins are for fags? [message #407813 is a reply to message #405375] |
Tue, 20 October 2009 20:31 |
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R315r4z0r
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Well, I just used the W3D engine as an example. My point was a 3D model can't be altered just by viewing it in a different game.
Extracting Walls_Flying and putting it into Crysis wont make the map look any better.
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| Re: Skins are for fags? [message #407869 is a reply to message #405375] |
Wed, 21 October 2009 07:58 |
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R315r4z0r
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You said that Halo, which was released about the same time as Renegade, looks much better than Renegade does.
I'm saying that is only because of special visual effects, not specifically because of the engine.
Models, are like images. Regardless of if you open an image in MSPaint, Photoshop, or Windows Image and Fax viewer, it will always look the same. It's the extra things done to it that make it seem different.
That's why Halo looks better than Renegade. The W3D engine is capable of the same things, but Renegade didn't take it's capabilities into the fullest consideration.
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| Re: Skins are for fags? [message #407883 is a reply to message #407869] |
Wed, 21 October 2009 09:19 |
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JohnDoe
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| R315r4z0r wrote on Wed, 21 October 2009 09:58 |
You said that Halo, which was released about the same time as Renegade, looks much better than Renegade does.
I'm saying that is only because of special visual effects, not specifically because of the engine.
Models, are like images. Regardless of if you open an image in MSPaint, Photoshop, or Windows Image and Fax viewer, it will always look the same. It's the extra things done to it that make it seem different.
That's why Halo looks better than Renegade. The W3D engine is capable of the same things, but Renegade didn't take it's capabilities into the fullest consideration.
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Shut up.
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