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| Cunin wrote on Fri, 09 October 2009 22:34 |
Oh and I can't see where liquid said he's universally loathed
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Did you read the image?
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #406424 is a reply to message #406421] |
Fri, 09 October 2009 23:41 |
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| rcmorr09 wrote on Sat, 10 October 2009 00:48 |
Everyone flaming spoony needs to quit right NOW! The man has done nothing but express his opinions on the A000 names and has backed it up with flawless debate. How can any of you NUBS not agree with Spoony after he has clearly proven EVERYONE to be incorrect. Clearly 95% of you idiots have some sort of mental disorder since you can't understand spoonys easy to read but rather lengthy posts. Spoony you're a man among men, you keep arguing and debating your point even when the vast majority disagrees with you. I'm thankful you don't fold under opposition from every direction where ever you go! It takes a special person to fight a battle alone and not care what anyone thinks of you. God Bless you sir!
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lol.. This is truly classic...
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #406468 is a reply to message #406466] |
Sat, 10 October 2009 07:09 |
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| Goztow wrote on Sat, 10 October 2009 15:55 |
Had a nice chat with Raven yesterday. He's a cool dude, tbh. Just to include a positive note in this topic  .
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You can't have done...the Jelly community is evil...
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #406472 is a reply to message #406461] |
Sat, 10 October 2009 07:33 |
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i currently think the same about raven, the difference between him and rest of the input from the jelly community is striking.
| grant89uk wrote on Sat, 10 October 2009 08:00 |
I think that image describes spoony 100%.
If at first people don't agree with your opinions, then keep repeating them over and over until they eventually give in because spoony surely won't give up EVER.
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uh, there's not much evidence of that.
pointsfix debate? we went to great lengths to try to accommodate other opinions, although it eventually became obvious that nobody was capable of changing their minds so we just said: fine, keep the pointsbug in your server.
this one? again, nobody can actually refute what i said (instead they just try to think of reasons why they don't have to answer to anyone), and despite the fact we actually could take the a00 names away, i'm satisfied not to... in my mind it's enough for this thread to show the situation for what it is.
i suppose you could say my reaction to both of these situations is "giving up", although i prefer to call it "being the better man".
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Everyone flaming spoony needs to quit right NOW!
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They don't need to quit. If they want to say something against them, let them say so... for example, when a convicted pointpusher lied to you again and again and again to make me look bad, you still sided with him even after it turned out everything he said was a lie, and you carried on treating me with the same contempt you did when you thought he was telling you the truth. So by all means go ahead and say so, so everyone can see what a masochistic puppet you are, and how little you value honesty and fairplay and diligence to the renegade clan community.
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #406490 is a reply to message #406472] |
Sat, 10 October 2009 10:03 |
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Ahhh. Sleeping was much better. 
But what do i find in the last post overnight?
| Spoony wrote on Sat, 10 October 2009 09:33 |
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Everyone flaming spoony needs to quit right NOW!
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They don't need to quit. If they want to say something against them, let them say so... for example, when a convicted pointpusher lied to you again and again and again to make me look bad, you still sided with him even after it turned out everything he said was a lie, and you carried on treating me with the same contempt you did when you thought he was telling you the truth. So by all means go ahead and say so, so everyone can see what a masochistic puppet you are, and how little you value honesty and fairplay and diligence to the renegade clan community.
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Honestly, if that doesnt make my point....
Spoony, do you have these all written down? Like on notepad or something - copy/paste. I would hate to have to remember all that word for word.
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #406495 is a reply to message #406490] |
Sat, 10 October 2009 11:23 |
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| PapaElbo wrote on Sat, 10 October 2009 13:03 |
Ahhh. Sleeping was much better.
But what do i find in the last post overnight?
| Spoony wrote on Sat, 10 October 2009 09:33 |
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Everyone flaming spoony needs to quit right NOW!
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They don't need to quit. If they want to say something against them, let them say so... for example, when a convicted pointpusher lied to you again and again and again to make me look bad, you still sided with him even after it turned out everything he said was a lie, and you carried on treating me with the same contempt you did when you thought he was telling you the truth. So by all means go ahead and say so, so everyone can see what a masochistic puppet you are, and how little you value honesty and fairplay and diligence to the renegade clan community.
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Honestly, if that doesnt make my point....
Spoony, do you have these all written down? Like on notepad or something - copy/paste. I would hate to have to remember all that word for word.
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Papa, You are obviously jealous of spoonys superior memory! Spoony is just superior to all of us and that's why I have jumped ship and am backing spoony 100%
So spoony I have cut my strings and am no longer a masochistic puppet, I got your back bro!
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #406497 is a reply to message #405549] |
Sat, 10 October 2009 11:44 |
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| Goztow wrote on Sat, 10 October 2009 08:55 |
Had a nice chat with Raven yesterday. He's a cool dude, tbh. Just to include a positive note in this topic .
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| Spoony wrote on Sat, 10 October 2009 09:33 |
i currently think the same about raven, the difference between him and rest of the input from the jelly community is striking.
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Woah, raven's my lover, get your hands off of him! 
Also, I dont see much value in this thread anymore. Both sides have made valid points and are now beginning to restate arguments/reduce themselves to namecalling...Lock pl0x.
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #406507 is a reply to message #406490] |
Sat, 10 October 2009 13:16 |
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| PapaElbo wrote on Sat, 10 October 2009 12:03 |
Ahhh. Sleeping was much better.
But what do i find in the last post overnight?
| Spoony wrote on Sat, 10 October 2009 09:33 |
| Rcmorr09 wrote |
Everyone flaming spoony needs to quit right NOW!
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They don't need to quit. If they want to say something against them, let them say so... for example, when a convicted pointpusher lied to you again and again and again to make me look bad, you still sided with him even after it turned out everything he said was a lie, and you carried on treating me with the same contempt you did when you thought he was telling you the truth. So by all means go ahead and say so, so everyone can see what a masochistic puppet you are, and how little you value honesty and fairplay and diligence to the renegade clan community.
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Honestly, if that doesnt make my point....
Spoony, do you have these all written down? Like on notepad or something - copy/paste. I would hate to have to remember all that word for word.
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Why would I need to write that down? It was only a month ago, and it's rare someone's ever stabbed me in the back as deeply as clearshot did.
I ran the clanwars league for years and always did so fairly... clearshot was one of its most regular users and he owes me nothing but thanks. But he hates the pointsfix, so when i talk about my ideas for the ladder, all he can do is make up a HUGE list of ridiculous, offensive lies about me just to try to discredit the new ladder (i.e. "i advise everyone here to stay away from this ladder, cos here's what spoony did on the old one...."). It's amazing that nobody has the slightest bad word to say about this kind of behaviour. But when I criticise a00 names, it's an outrage. That's odd, because my statements were not personal attacks on Jelly, and they were actually honest... so if you endlessly bitch at me but say nothing about clear, doesn't this say a little about your priorities?
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #406508 is a reply to message #406497] |
Sat, 10 October 2009 13:21 |
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| SoQRadio wrote on Sat, 10 October 2009 13:44 |
| Goztow wrote on Sat, 10 October 2009 08:55 |
Had a nice chat with Raven yesterday. He's a cool dude, tbh. Just to include a positive note in this topic .
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| Spoony wrote on Sat, 10 October 2009 09:33 |
i currently think the same about raven, the difference between him and rest of the input from the jelly community is striking.
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Woah, raven's my lover, get your hands off of him!
Also, I dont see much value in this thread anymore. Both sides have made valid points and are now beginning to restate arguments/reduce themselves to namecalling...Lock pl0x.
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LOL Radio <3..
well thanks guys. Same goes to all of you
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #406625 is a reply to message #405549] |
Sun, 11 October 2009 20:37 |
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Alot of this thread is TL;DR, but I'll say it for Spoony's sake:
You're a fucking asshole if you have to discredit people and play around peoples backs and have to have people who never post here come on here and gang up on someone just because you personally do not want something that can potentially make this game much better, not to mention has had NUMEROUS attempts at compromise yet you refuse them.
That being said, I do believe this topic needs to be locked, aswell as any further pointsfix arguments. It'll only lead to the minority looking like the majority, confusion rising, blame being thrown around, false accusations made, and more people being douchebags.
Either that, or have them heavily moderated... although the repercussions of that will be "OMG MODS R BIASED!1" posts and general stupidity arising.
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| cAmpa wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 12:45 |
Scrin, stop pming people to get the building bars.
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FUCK YOU AND THIS SHIT GAME WITH YOUR SCRIPTS!!! I HAVE ASKING YOU AND ANOTHER NOOBS HERE ABOUT HELP WITH THAT BUILDING ICONS FEATURES FOR YEARS, BUT YOU KEEP IGNORING ME AND KEEP WRITE SHIT, SO BURN YOU AND YOUR ASSLICKERS FRIENDS, THIS TIME I'M NOT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!   
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #406632 is a reply to message #406625] |
Sun, 11 October 2009 22:41 |
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| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Sun, 11 October 2009 20:37 |
That being said, I do believe this topic needs to be locked, aswell as any further pointsfix arguments. It'll only lead to the minority looking like the majority, confusion rising, blame being thrown around, false accusations made, and more people being douchebags.
Either that, or have them heavily moderated... although the repercussions of that will be "OMG MODS R BIASED!1" posts and general stupidity arising.
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #406655 is a reply to message #406625] |
Mon, 12 October 2009 03:59 |
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| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Mon, 12 October 2009 05:37 |
Alot of this thread is TL;DR, but I'll say it for Spoony's sake:
You're a fucking asshole if you have to discredit people and play around peoples backs and have to have people who never post here come on here and gang up on someone just because you personally do not want something that can potentially make this game much better, not to mention has had NUMEROUS attempts at compromise yet you refuse them.
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So just because the Jelly community doesn't post on here much, makes them assholes for coming and defending their actions? And you've overlooked the fact that Jelly did offer to compromise, but Spoony carried on so they withdrew it.
I have to say kudos to Spoony for getting a 14 page thread out of this server names debate, considering it is pointless when the TT patch comes into play. Well done.
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #406657 is a reply to message #406632] |
Mon, 12 October 2009 04:52 |
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| Crimson wrote on Mon, 12 October 2009 00:41 |
quote title=Quote:]Moderators: Also keep in mind that you are not a moderator. You do not decide when threads are locked, posts are deleted, etc., and therefore should not post as such in threads. The "Report Message" and Private Message features are there for a reason. You are encouraged to use them when needed.
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my bad, although since your attention is already brought to it, I'd figure that'd make it redundant to report it now...
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| cAmpa wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 12:45 |
Scrin, stop pming people to get the building bars.
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FUCK YOU AND THIS SHIT GAME WITH YOUR SCRIPTS!!! I HAVE ASKING YOU AND ANOTHER NOOBS HERE ABOUT HELP WITH THAT BUILDING ICONS FEATURES FOR YEARS, BUT YOU KEEP IGNORING ME AND KEEP WRITE SHIT, SO BURN YOU AND YOUR ASSLICKERS FRIENDS, THIS TIME I'M NOT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #406762 is a reply to message #405938] |
Tue, 13 October 2009 12:58 |
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| Spoony wrote on Wed, 07 October 2009 10:44 |
| killer783 wrote on Wed, 07 October 2009 10:38 |
end of they day jelly is not giving any a00 names to TT live with it
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Yes, I've already noticed the Jelly community's complete stubbornness, refusal to negotiate, and contempt towards anybody challenging their monopoly. I've remarked upon it several times. Thanks for proving it yet again.
| killer783 wrote on Wed, 07 October 2009 10:38 |
and how do you deserve it just because you making a patch?? bullshit yea your doing something for the whole of ren but that doesnt make you fucking rene gods wow..............
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Someone must have this control. That's obvious. Someone WILL have it. Right now it's in the complete, unchallengeable control of the Jelly community, and any fool can just look at this thread and see they are absolutely not qualified to use it. Look at the despicable way they were treating me even BEFORE i posted this thread, look at them saying "fuck off, there's nothing you can do about it".
I put it to you that TT is by far better qualified to handle this. When TT gets criticised on the pointsfix, for example, we went to incredible lengths to accommodate people who disagreed with us, we suggested many compromises, and in the end we just gave people everything they wanted.
After reading that ^^, give me a one word answer: who do you think is better trusted with the authority over the gamelistings? Jelly or TT? Please, if you seriously think it's Jelly, then say so, so everyone can see what a biased idiot you are. And if you've actually got a brain and you think it's TT, then maybe you should say so to Jelly.
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biased idiot jeesh coming from a guy who probebly has TT wallpaper TT bed sheets wtf... who deserves the authority the people who made the names in the first place.
i agree with you to a certain point but dont agree with TT having control.. because if that happens how biased will you be to your *favourite* communities... its like swings and roundabouts.
take a little break and get some air......
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #406830 is a reply to message #406786] |
Wed, 14 October 2009 04:56 |
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| Spoony wrote on Wed, 14 October 2009 01:36 |
| killer783 wrote on Tue, 13 October 2009 14:58 |
i agree with you to a certain point but dont agree with TT having control.. because if that happens how biased will you be to your *favourite* communities...
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None at all; we'd do things as fairly as we possibly could.
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Fairly? Thats still in your own opinion.
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #406831 is a reply to message #406830] |
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| Acey#GW wrote on Wed, 14 October 2009 12:56 |
| Spoony wrote on Wed, 14 October 2009 01:36 |
| killer783 wrote on Tue, 13 October 2009 14:58 |
i agree with you to a certain point but dont agree with TT having control.. because if that happens how biased will you be to your *favourite* communities...
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None at all; we'd do things as fairly as we possibly could.
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Fairly? Thats still in your own opinion.
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Why don't I do it then? If anything, given as Jelly (even after this topic) still ATM me, I'm going to be biased towards them!
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #406832 is a reply to message #406830] |
Wed, 14 October 2009 05:01 |
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| Acey#GW wrote on Wed, 14 October 2009 06:56 |
Fairly? Thats still in your own opinion.
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have you actually read this thread?
i've talked about accountability and transparency... i've talked about how one group has been endorsed by EA (and to some extent XWIS) to handle renegade issues like this.
you say: it's just gonna be your opinion instead of jelly's? uh no, that just shows you aren't reading. it would be a committee who actually considered themselves answerable to the wider community, would explain their actions instead of just saying "fuck off, there's nothing you can do about it" (again, compare track records here"... and, bonus, has been given a level of endorsement by the owners of Renegade.
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #406859 is a reply to message #406832] |
Wed, 14 October 2009 12:35 |
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| Spoony wrote on Wed, 14 October 2009 14:01 |
| Acey#GW wrote on Wed, 14 October 2009 06:56 |
Fairly? Thats still in your own opinion.
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have you actually read this thread?
i've talked about accountability and transparency... i've talked about how one group has been endorsed by EA (and to some extent XWIS) to handle renegade issues like this.
you say: it's just gonna be your opinion instead of jelly's? uh no, that just shows you aren't reading. it would be a committee who actually considered themselves answerable to the wider community, would explain their actions instead of just saying "fuck off, there's nothing you can do about it" (again, compare track records here"... and, bonus, has been given a level of endorsement by the owners of Renegade.
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I've read the entire thread. I think it's great that TT are endorsed by EA but I really think they don't give a shit about it. It was just keep the community off their backs.
I have my reservations about certain members of TT, but its not really relevant to this. I think the Jelly community was reasonable at times. (Raven for example) But everyone reacts different, and IMO, you went about this wrongly. Thus provoking bad reactions.
A private discussion would have sorted an amicable solution. But all this had done is distance a sizeable chunk of the renegade community away from the rest.
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