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Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #405973 is a reply to message #405970] Wed, 07 October 2009 09:30 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Jellybe4n
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Spoony wrote on Wed, 07 October 2009 12:27

Jellybe4n wrote on Wed, 07 October 2009 11:15

So you think I'm wrong about your reasons and jump to the fact I'm lying about your brother, or insinuating you're lying?

It's really simple. You throw up all these ridiculous conspiracy theories about why I'm really saying what I'm saying. "oh, spoony's REALLY saying this because..."
two problems with this.
1. you say this in the hope it means you don't have to respond to the actual criticism
2. you basically wipe away my history of honesty with one stroke

so you come up with a reason of "why spoony's saying this now", a completely bullshit one that is easily discredited. trouble is you know better than anyone why i'm saying this NOW, not last year, for example.

RCmorr09 wrote

I asked him also if this a00 name deal was so important why wait till now? He also brought up his brothers illness. But what about last month when he was here?

last month, eh?
Spoony wrote on Wed, 09 September 2009 18:33

i also think that at some point there will be a server with the 'pure' strategic settings, perhaps TT will host it as the 'official' server for ladder play, or perhaps i'll do it independently (think SpoonySrv). basically so there is always somewhere for people to play for ladder, disregarding any current community bias and whatnot, and to prevent one community having a stranglehold on the ladder. (i'd need an a00 nick for that though. i'm sure i don't need to point out the futility of starting a new server without one.)

you certainly saw that post because you replied to the thread a great many times, to your discredit

simpee wrote

its not so much what you have done, its the way you do it. you argue to the death, provoke people into reacting, call them liars, drag people into the argument by randomly mentioning them.

wow simpee... how DARE you criticise the way *I* argue?

spoony said to simpee last page

you lied to everyone over and over and over again about what happened at clanwars with the pointsfix.
you lied to everyone over and over and over again about this mesa 2v2 nonsense.
you lied to everyone over and over and over again about the pointpushing business - whiskey, clearshot etc.
and you lied about clearshot's huge list of bullshit false accusations against me. you had a choice: 1. tell the truth, admit spoony was innocent on all charges, point out that every single word clearshot said was an obvious lie... or 2. lie to the community to help clear get away with it. i predicted you would take the second option, and was absolutely right: it's exactly what you did do.

i like the pointsfix, so you ABSOLUTELY CANNOT tell the truth in any situation where telling the truth will make me look good. i guess me being the only person who could ever be bothered hosting a clan ladder for scum like you hasn't even earned me THAT small amount of respect, eh?

and every time you lie to the community to try to get people on your side, you get caught. i actually try to do you a favour by saying "simpee, you are making your case WEAKER when you do this", you just don't get it, you just try again five minutes later. it's amazing you can't see how much damage you're doing to your own credibility



Quit with BS and quote trees, and tell me where I said you're lying about your brother (not your perception of how you got there from what I said), or drop it and apologise.

If you fail to do either, I'm done discussing anything with you..
 
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