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| Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game [message #405376 is a reply to message #405371] |
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| liquidv2 wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 06:38 |
hey Spoony, i'm willing to bet this guy would vote in favor of the original points being abolished and everyone being forced to use the pointmod 
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so? there isn't going to be a vote about that. he doesn't have any authority to change that decision, and as far as i can see he's not actually trying to actively subvert it. he's just talking about it. people on the anti-pointsfix crowd HAVE BEEN CAUGHT DOING THAT, and it amazes me that nobody has a bad word to say about it... the silence speaks volumes.
if the difference isn't clear to you, let me illustrate it. (angerfist = cheater, banned on the clanwars league)
it's the same as the difference between these two things:
1. MVR says: "spoony, i don't think angerfist should be banned"
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2. MVR secretly allows angerfist into his clan in spite of the ban, subverting the admin's authority
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| Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game [message #405387 is a reply to message #404700] |
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And a big LOL to the guy who claims that he needs the points bug at high level games. If you cannot adapt to a change that actually makes sens then you suck quite hard.
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its not about adapting to gameplay, its about pointfix imbalenicing the game for clanwars, something you wouldnt know the slightest about.
You are someone who has sat in public servers, got a few mvps and think you understand how the game works. This is not the case. For example, you cannot see the problem that is caused in smaller games when two meds get around the same amount of points for hitting a techd arty in pointfix. This is something spoony has tried to argue against time and time again but has been unable to persuade anyone that theyre not overpowered, even dodging my request to proove it to him in-game. you need to understand that spoony is a master of spin and is trying to make anti-pointfix people look like liars and renegade terroists when all we want to do is play the game the way we want to play it.
spoony how can i possibly be lying when i say i dont care what TT do aslong as im not forced to play with any game-play changes(pointfix included) imposed by them? last time i looked it was u trying to force all the servers to use pointfix, not me forcing them not to use pointfix.
and spoony, on jelly forums after our 25 page thriller of spoony vs 50 you asked me why jelly wouldnt want to play on a universal ladder. i think i have your answer, its because they wouldnt want to play under a league run by douchebags like u. you say that servers that give u 350 starting credits will be punished, yet in this topic u say that 3 credits per seconds or whatever wont be punished on ur ladder? furthermore ur still trying to justify saying that and somehow managing to turn these TT people that u seem to have wrapped around ur little finger against liquid.
ill say this again to all the TT people actually working on the patch. all you have to do is fix the bugs in the game. This is your role. dont get involved in a pointfix debate that you can never win (spoony has never managed to win one and hes a decent player) nor bother suggesting solutions for the faults in pointfix. just fix the damn bugs and you will all be remmebered as renegade heroes.
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| Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game [message #405390 is a reply to message #405387] |
Mon, 05 October 2009 08:30 |
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| ELiT3FLyR wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 17:08 |
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And a big LOL to the guy who claims that he needs the points bug at high level games. If you cannot adapt to a change that actually makes sens then you suck quite hard.
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its not about adapting to gameplay, its about pointfix imbalenicing the game for clanwars, something you wouldnt know the slightest about.
You are someone who has sat in public servers, got a few mvps and think you understand how the game works. This is not the case. For example, you cannot see the problem that is caused in smaller games when two meds get around the same amount of points for hitting a techd arty in pointfix. This is something spoony has tried to argue against time and time again but has been unable to persuade anyone that theyre not overpowered, even dodging my request to proove it to him in-game. you need to understand that spoony is a master of spin and is trying to make anti-pointfix people look like liars and renegade terroists when all we want to do is play the game the way we want to play it.
spoony how can i possibly be lying when i say i dont care what TT do aslong as im not forced to play with any game-play changes(pointfix included) imposed by them? last time i looked it was u trying to force all the servers to use pointfix, not me forcing them not to use pointfix.
and spoony, on jelly forums after our 25 page thriller of spoony vs 50 you asked me why jelly wouldnt want to play on a universal ladder. i think i have your answer, its because they wouldnt want to play under a league run by douchebags like u. you say that servers that give u 350 starting credits will be punished, yet in this topic u say that 3 credits per seconds or whatever wont be punished on ur ladder? furthermore ur still trying to justify saying that and somehow managing to turn these TT people that u seem to have wrapped around ur little finger against liquid.
ill say this again to all the TT people actually working on the patch. all you have to do is fix the bugs in the game. This is your role. dont get involved in a pointfix debate that you can never win (spoony has never managed to win one and hes a decent player) nor bother suggesting solutions for the faults in pointfix. just fix the damn bugs and you will all be remmebered as renegade heroes.
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Just die ok?
If you think that it is logical that you get a different amount of points for shooting armour than health you are truly retarded. Or that one weapon should get more points than another, dispite it does less damage. (doing damage is the point of the game right? So it makes sense to reward people that do damage right?)
Anyway, all suggestions done here where because people had valid complaints on the pointfix. It is indeed (a bit) harder to get credits with the pointfix. If that is the only problem then lets change that. That is what we discusted here.
Almost everyone but you sees that there is indeed a point bug. Some like it because it gives them enough credits, that's fair enough. You just like to troll around without any decent arguments. Imbalance itself is not caused by the pointfix. It only changes the points/money you get. It does barely effect balance directly.
Oh, and the coders are doing their job. They are fixing a bug. That you like that particular bug is _YOUR_ problem. There surely are people that like Blue Hell as well. Don't think we should keep it though...
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| Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game [message #405392 is a reply to message #404700] |
Mon, 05 October 2009 08:50 |
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you dont understand it unbalences the game for clanwars and smaller games. thats why i get annoyed when i see people like you thinking that you know whats best and changing the game for people like me.
my problem is not with the coders, theyre doing a good job fixing bugs such as bluescreen which is what they promised to do. its with people like you and spoony who dont understand how pointfix/3 credits a second/increaded money to point ratio can effect gameplay for us, and then trying to force pointfix into a patch.
if your comeback to this is well pointfix and 3 credits per seconds is optional then stop trying to justify it to me and get on with it.
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| Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game [message #405395 is a reply to message #405387] |
Mon, 05 October 2009 09:03 |
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| ELiT3FLyR wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 10:08 |
its not about adapting to gameplay, its about pointfix imbalenicing the game for clanwars, something you wouldnt know the slightest about.
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who's talking about clanwars?
| ELiT3FLyR wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 10:08 |
You are someone who has sat in public servers, got a few mvps and think you understand how the game works. This is not the case. For example, you cannot see the problem that is caused in smaller games when two meds get around the same amount of points for hitting a techd arty in pointfix. This is something spoony has tried to argue against time and time again but has been unable to persuade anyone that theyre not overpowered
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firstly simpee, did someone else type this for you? it certainly seems that way.
anyway, is all that why you've been proven wrong again and again and again?
the most recent time was when you tried to say: if there's a teched arty vs two meds, the arty on its own gets more points than the meds do. this is, of course, COMPLETELY wrong.
what's more, even when you factor in the points the tech is getting, the meds still get more points overall.
now you've totally changed your story to "they get around the same amount of points". uh, your original statement was "the arty gets much more" and you turned out to be completely wrong.
| ELiT3FLyR wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 10:08 |
even dodging my request to proove it to him in-game.
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dude, EVERY SINGLE TIME you've posted this lie, you've been caught. why do you persist? are you SO THICK that you can't realise how much damage you are doing to your own case by continually lying to the community?
| ELiT3FLyR wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 10:08 |
you need to understand that spoony is a master of spin and is trying to make anti-pointfix people look like liars
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...k buddy, whatever you say. doesn't change the fact you HAVE been caught lying AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN. you saying this would be like packer saying "LOL SPOONYS TRYING TO MAKE PEOPLE LOOK LIKE CHEATERS". he can say that if he likes, it wouldn't change the fact i DID catch him cheating.
| ELiT3FLyR wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 10:08 |
and renegade terroists when all we want to do is play the game the way we want to play it.
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what a surprise that you continue to dodge my statements about the pointsfix in clanwars, and how it proved that you OPPOSE the idea of each community having the choice to use the pointsfix or not, AND what you said at jelly along the same lines (i.e. nobody should be allowed to use the pointsfix because then there will be less servers without the pointsfix for you to play on)
| ELiT3FLyR wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 10:08 |
last time i looked it was u trying to force all the servers to use pointfix
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All this proves is that you simply DO NOT READ WHAT I SAY. or, perhaps, are just too thick to understand simple statements.
| ELiT3FLyR wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 10:08 |
not me forcing them not to use pointfix.
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see above re: you keep dodging the statement about pointsfix in clanwars
| ELiT3FLyR wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 10:08 |
and spoony, on jelly forums after our 25 page thriller of spoony vs 50 you asked me why jelly wouldnt want to play on a universal ladder.
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uh no, i asked why jelly disconnected themselves from the ladder before i said anything about the pointsfix. nice lie though
| ELiT3FLyR wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 10:08 |
i think i have your answer, its because they wouldnt want to play under a league run by douchebags like u.
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douchebag? um, i was the only person who could be bothered hosting a league for lying scum like you, and all you did by way of thanks was break the rules all the time. who's the douchebag here? idiot
| ELiT3FLyR wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 10:08 |
you say that servers that give u 350 starting credits will be punished, yet in this topic u say that 3 credits per seconds or whatever wont be punished on ur ladder?
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no.... read my posts
| ELiT3FLyR wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 10:08 |
dont get involved in a pointfix debate that you can never win (spoony has never managed to win one and hes a decent player)
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rofl, you've got the IQ of a chimp. i've won pretty much every debate on the pointsfix, and you've always lost. again: three times out of ten you get caught lying through your teeth, and the other seven you simply have no fucking clue what you're talking about. i've literally lost count of the number of times you have been proven ABSOLUTELY DEAD WRONG about something. i've also lost count of the number of times you've outright lied to try to get people on your side, and you ALWAYS get caught. i have no idea why getting caught doesn't put you off, you simply don't see how much damage it's doing to your case. i dunno why, i've pointed it out to you plenty of times... for your own good, but there's just no helping some people.
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you dont understand it unbalences the game for clanwars and smaller games.
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MOVING THE GOALPOSTS.
we aren't talking about clanwars. and as for smaller games, you're still wrong. AND YET THE POINTSFIX IS STILL OPTIONAL! jesus, how can you be SO THICK, simpee?
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its with people like you and spoony who dont understand how pointfix/3 credits a second/increaded money to point ratio can effect gameplay for us, and then trying to force pointfix into a patch.
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IT ISN'T GOING TO BE FORCED! IT WILL STILL BE OPTIONAL!
IT ISN'T GOING TO BE FORCED! IT WILL STILL BE OPTIONAL!
IT ISN'T GOING TO BE FORCED! IT WILL STILL BE OPTIONAL!
IT ISN'T GOING TO BE FORCED! IT WILL STILL BE OPTIONAL!
IT ISN'T GOING TO BE FORCED! IT WILL STILL BE OPTIONAL!
IT ISN'T GOING TO BE FORCED! IT WILL STILL BE OPTIONAL!
IT ISN'T GOING TO BE FORCED! IT WILL STILL BE OPTIONAL!
IT ISN'T GOING TO BE FORCED! IT WILL STILL BE OPTIONAL!
IT ISN'T GOING TO BE FORCED! IT WILL STILL BE OPTIONAL!
IT ISN'T GOING TO BE FORCED! IT WILL STILL BE OPTIONAL!
IT ISN'T GOING TO BE FORCED! IT WILL STILL BE OPTIONAL!
IT ISN'T GOING TO BE FORCED! IT WILL STILL BE OPTIONAL!
HOLY SHIT simpee, do you have a severe learning disability or something?
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| Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game [message #405398 is a reply to message #405392] |
Mon, 05 October 2009 09:19 |
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| ELiT3FLyR wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 17:50 |
you dont understand it unbalences the game for clanwars and smaller games. thats why i get annoyed when i see people like you thinking that you know whats best and changing the game for people like me.
my problem is not with the coders, theyre doing a good job fixing bugs such as bluescreen which is what they promised to do. its with people like you and spoony who dont understand how pointfix/3 credits a second/increaded money to point ratio can effect gameplay for us, and then trying to force pointfix into a patch.
if your comeback to this is well pointfix and 3 credits per seconds is optional then stop trying to justify it to me and get on with it.
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The 3 credits thing/increased income was a suggestion for the poeple that are anti pointfix because they then fail to make enough money. I would never set that on my own server, simply because I think it's not needed. Hell, did you ever play on my server?
Most certainly not, otherwise you'd know that we have the pointfix, have the smaller games, and quite a lot of regular people that keep coming back. So apparently quite a lot of people disagree with you on the smaller games thing.
Oh and I do understand how the pointfix works in clan games. You can't use APCs alone in under to win, which works pretty well without pointfix.
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| Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game [message #405399 is a reply to message #405398] |
Mon, 05 October 2009 09:25 |
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clan games are totally irrelevant to the debate.
if pointsfix is optional - and of course it will be - then if someone else other than me decides they want to host a clan league, they can choose whether to use pointsfix or not.
of course, last time that happened, ELiT3FLyR actively tried to sabotage it, subverting the admin's decisions. this is what you need to remember when he cries about how the pointsfix ought to be optional. TT thinks so, but he doesn't.
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| Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game [message #405401 is a reply to message #404700] |
Mon, 05 October 2009 09:29 |
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perhaps we have different victory conditions when it comes to pointfix debates. Yours seems to be proove that simpee pointpushed 3 games in 2004 and hope people wont listen to him because of this, whilst mine is to make sure everyone realises that pointfix has a negative effect on the game. you can call me a liar all you want, but in my book you havent won a single pointfix argument because everytime you have bought a pointfix debate to a jelly or clanwar forum your the one who gets told to wank off, not me, clear or anyother anti gay-fix person.
if the pointfix is optional like 1 of the guys told me earlier then fucking leave me alone and stop bringing me back into these arguments by saying i suck and all the rest of what u said. My post on page 2 was going to be my last post as soon as i was sure that 3 creds a sec and pointfix was not going to be mandatory as the previous pointfix topic and the start of this topic suggested in the way it was said.
youve always had a "flair for dramatics" as joetorp put it, this is evident as u knew that jelly already refused ur ladder idea but u posted on there anyway because u knew it would annoy people and spark a reaction. now stfu and stop bringing me up everysingle time the word pointfix comes up in one of ur posts. all someone has to do is merely look at ur posts to see that u on purposely drag people into arguments by constantly mentioning them and calling them shit. why TT choose you of all people to work with is beyond me.
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| Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game [message #405404 is a reply to message #404700] |
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thanks for prooving my renegade terroist point spoony. You might be able to get these guys to believe u and think that im cheatin scum against any kind of game development but anyone who actually knows me knows this is not the case. I was one of the MAJORITY at clanwars that said pointfix sucks. i dont understand why you thought that forcing all of clanwars to play pointfix when you didnt even have the support of the server owners would ever work.
if there was one server left on renegade and the owner decdied mammies should only cost 200 credits would you not do everything you could to get this reversed so that you could continue to play and enjoy the game? thats all that happened at clanwars.
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| Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game [message #405416 is a reply to message #405405] |
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| ELiT3FLyR wrote |
perhaps we have different victory conditions when it comes to pointfix debates. Yours seems to be proove that simpee pointpushed 3 games in 2004 and hope people wont listen to him because of this
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that's pretty low down on the list of things that need to be said about you. i didn't even mention the fact you pointpushed in that other thread... you did. why you thought this would be a good thing to bring up is beyond me... i'd rather talk about your continual failure to report games, your subversion of my decisions on the pointsfix, the fact you're always lying through your teeth to make me look bad, and the fact that every time you do something pathetic and you get caught, you act like it's someone else's fault.
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whilst mine is to make sure everyone realises that pointfix has a negative effect on the game.
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and let's say everybody believes you, no matter how many times your maths falls apart or you get caught lying about something. what's the problem? IT'LL BE OPTIONAL!
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you can call me a liar all you want
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thanks. it's a necessary rebuttal to a great deal of the things you say.
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but in my book you havent won a single pointfix argument because everytime you have bought a pointfix debate to a jelly or clanwar forum your the one who gets told to wank off, not me, clear or anyother anti gay-fix person.
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so? none of this changes the fact that everything I say invariably turns out to be true, most of what the anti-pointsfix crowd says turns out to be either totally misinformed or outright lies. it's amazing you have the nerve to mention clearshot, considering what he did in that thread. the fact nobody flamed him for that proves only one thing: you can get away with the most EXTRAORDINARY bullshit so long as you're against the pointsfix.
he lied through his teeth AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN, making a huge list of ridiculous and false accusations against me, all these corrupt admin abuses i did. YOU KNEW every word he said was lie, you KNEW i was innocent on all charges, but not only did you NOT say so, you actually LIED to try to cover for him. which, if you remember, is EXACTLY WHAT I PREDICTED YOU WOULD DO. why are you even bringing this up? it's INCREDIBLY damning against you. but you're just too thick to realise that... you just don't realise how crippling it is to your credibility every time you try to get away with bullshit like this.
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if the pointfix is optional like 1 of the guys told me earlier
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uh, i think you mean "like spoony told me again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again"
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then fucking leave me alone and stop bringing me back into these arguments by saying i suck
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y'know when people on renegade forums say 'lol' they aren't really laughing out loud, right? well, this sentence actually did make me laugh out loud.
I knew your insecurity about your reneskills was your biggest weakness, but I didn't realise it would hit you THIS hard... (after reading that sentence i almost feel guilty now, lol...) anyway, you're the one who started with the whole "im better than u" crap. Remember? You got proven wrong, and instead of acknowledging it you changed your position to "im better than u, case closed". Shame you couldn't even make THAT stick.
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youve always had a "flair for dramatics" as joetorp put it, this is evident as u knew that jelly already refused ur ladder idea but u posted on there anyway because u knew it would annoy people and spark a reaction.
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no, I was making YET ANOTHER compromise to people who despise me. i'm just the better man, and I even get flamed for proving that 
rather telling you mentioned joetorp, because his situation is exactly the same as yours. i've caught both of you lying through your teeth again and again and again, and you somehow come to the conclusion that i'm the bad guy for catching you. you make yourself look even more pathetic by doing so, and you're obviously too thick to see that.
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obviously you dont know how it works in clanwars because
1) under is rarely played as a clanwar map
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funny, neither was mesa until people decided it was an argument against the pointsfix, then suddenly it's the most important map. whereas when maps like field and wallsfly are DEFINITELY made fairer by the pointsfix, and actually ARE played a lot in clanwars, they don't matter.
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thanks for prooving my renegade terroist point spoony. You might be able to get these guys to believe u and think that im cheatin scum against any kind of game development but anyone who actually knows me knows this is not the case.
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um, breaking rules = cheating, and you broke the rules in my league ALL THE TIME. and every time you got caught you acted like it was someone else's fault, usually either mine or whiskey's.
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I was one of the MAJORITY at clanwars that said pointfix sucks. i dont understand why you thought that forcing all of clanwars to play pointfix when you didnt even have the support of the server owners would ever work.
if there was one server left on renegade and the owner decdied mammies should only cost 200 credits would you not do everything you could to get this reversed so that you could continue to play and enjoy the game? thats all that happened at clanwars.
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your behaviour was COMPLETELY INDEFENSIBLE, and it PROVES you DO NOT support the idea of each community having the individual choice. YOU-DO-NOT.
here we go again. i've posted all this before, but you keep dodging it because you know there's absolutely nothing you can say in your own defence.
- spoony, the rightful league owner, decides he wants to use the pointsfix in the clanwars league. he also encourages open debate on the subject.
- nobody can successfully argue against it. everything they say is proven wrong, and they also make a habit of completely not listening to what the opposition is saying
- the community starts a campaign of lies, manipulation and sabotage. endlessly lying to try to influence opinion, ridiculous character assassination, rigging polls and then lying about the results, and most crucial, lying to the server owners to get it unbanned. most of the people doing this had a really shitty reputation in terms of fairplay, too.
- later, spoony tries again, suggests testing of the full pointsfix (i.e. with the vehicle-alignment modification). community refuses to test it. they later lie and say they did.
- later still, a few people actually tries to use this whole sorry episode as an argument against the pointsfix. WHAT?! some people are just masochists.
now, who do you support here?
a: the rightful league owner and admin, who made a choice of whether to use the pointsfix or not
b: a group of people, all of whom had colourful rap sheets of breaking rules, ignoring the admin's decision and subverting his authority, through a campaign of lies and manipulation
if you support B, then... well, that's your opinion. but it means four things.
1. you place no value on honesty or evidence
2. you place no value on fair play
3. you have no regard for the authority of the rightful league owner, even though he's the only person who could ever be bothered hosting a league for you
4. (most importantly, here and now) YOU DO NOT SUPPORT THE IDEA OF EACH COMMUNITY CHOOSING WHETHER TO USE THE POINTSFIX!
| ELiT3FLyR wrote |
if there was one server left on renegade and the owner decdied mammies should only cost 200 credits would you not do everything you could to get this reversed so that you could continue to play and enjoy the game? thats all that happened at clanwars.
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what would i do? start another server. (presumably if there was only one server left, then the jelly community's unwarranted, unchallengeable 4-year chokehold on the game listings wouldn't be a hindrance to that anymore).
why didn't YOU host a league with the pointsbug? i asked this question a lot of times to idiots like you, and every single time i did, it completely stumped them. it's a real debate-stopper.
do you know why clanwars started at all? it's because the WOL ladder was crap. so CLAN WARS had an idea: start another one and run it better. you ask me "what would you do?" THIS IS WHAT WE DID DO, and because we did, you had a league to play on. Nobody else gave a shit about you. NOBODY. Considering the appalling way you behave, it's easy to see why, but you still owe me nothing but thanks.
instead what do you do? you disregard rules you don't like and then you act like it's everyone else's fault when you get caught, and then, the pinnacle of your stupidity, you act like your opinion on the rules you keep breaking is even worth listening to. you CONTINUALLY lie to the community either to try to make me look bad. you even tried doing what clearshot was doing, AND defended him even though you knew he was lying and i was telling the truth... which is yet another hammer blow to your credibility. you even had the nerve to say "it's convenient for you the old smak forums are gone so everyone can't see you're lying and clear's telling the truth". i must say, THAT was pretty cunning by your intellectual standards (which, let's not mince words, are pretty low). what a pity it didn't work and both you and clear were caught.
here's a question, simpee: why do you think you deserve everything i did for you? after the disgusting way you've treated me, and still do, don't you think it's astonishing that i'm the only person who could be bothered hosting a clan league for you?
but anyway, you've done more than enough to ensure that anything you say about the pointsfix can be completely disregarded. i warned you again and again and again and again that every time you lie to the community or dodge the fact you get proven wrong, you make your case weaker. perhaps you should've listened, because you've finally hit the zero point. so this is what's gonna happen:
1. apologise for everything you've done, apologise to me for every time you lied to the community to try to make me look bad, apologise to me for trying to subvert the clanwars league, and apologise to the community for lying when you said you want the pointsfix to be optional
2. i, and the rest of TT, will no longer even read what you say at all. we won't read it, we won't reply to it, we will simply put you on ignore, and if anyone tries posting on your behalf we'll do the same to them. you've proven over and over and over again that you simply don't deserve to lower the standards of this debate by your very participation, and this is your last chance to prove otherwise. i say "last" because god knows you've had - and wasted - enough chances already.
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maybe if u read what i was saying sentence by sentence rather than qutoe 5 words and reply my posts would make more sense to u. you always start all the shit. i came here because i was worried that TT was seriously considering making 3 creds a second mandatory and i was no longer going to post when i realised that id got the wrong end of the stick.
you however, when seeing that i say pointfix sux decide to jump right in and defend ur stupid pointmod with all guns blazing. when you say to me that i suck in tanks because im not doing much damage therfore not getting much points, do u seriously expect me to sit there and take it when its obviously not true? you obviously want me to react to it and for some reason it works on me everytime.
why dont u show me and everyone else that you are better than me and that pointfix is fair and that techd arties arent overpowered by playing me mesa 2v2? is this not the perfect oppurtunity to smash my argument into little pieces? its funny that youve never taken this chance despite me offering it to u every single time.
is there even anypoint in arguing about anything else? anyone who has a different view of the same thing is a liar or worse. u cannot see anything from anyone elses point of view, and as someone who is working on a patch that is quite worrying.
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| Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game [message #405473 is a reply to message #405466] |
Mon, 05 October 2009 15:33 |
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| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 17:24 |
...Did anyone even READ my post?
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No, and the best way is to just get to earlier players to donate money.
I'm gonna hijack a plane / I won't do it for glory or fame / and when they catch me they'll see I'm insane / put your Ronald Reagan to shame
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| Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game [message #405520 is a reply to message #405441] |
Mon, 05 October 2009 20:17 |
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| ELiT3FLyR wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 13:53 |
maybe if u read what i was saying sentence by sentence rather than qutoe 5 words and reply my posts would make more sense to u.
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ITT: People who don't read other people's post accusing other people of not reading their posts.
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| Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game [message #405524 is a reply to message #405520] |
Mon, 05 October 2009 20:34 |
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| Dover wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 22:17 |
| ELiT3FLyR wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 13:53 |
maybe if u read what i was saying sentence by sentence rather than qutoe 5 words and reply my posts would make more sense to u.
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This.
If you haven't noticed, this topic is NOT meant to argue pointsfix. Go to one of the trillions of other topics so Spoony can prove you're an incompetent jackass.
Here, let me put that in a way you can hopefully understand.
THIS TOPIC IS NOT MEANT TO ARGUE POINTSFIX, NO MATTER HOW RIGHT YOU THINK YOU ARE (AND YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT). IT'S MEANT TO DISCUSS HOW POINTSFIX CAN FIX ANY FLAWS AND PROBLEMS ANTI-POINTSFIX PEOPLE MAY HAVE.
The fact that almost none of you lot are willing to compromise proves to me you're just as bad as the people who refuse to listen to an album from a band because it sounds a little different than their previous album, and therefore you have absolutely no right to post in these forums... much less a topic made to compromise.
Fuck, the more you jackasses post, the more I'm willing to totally be cool with it if TT makes pointsfix mandatory.
PROTIP: YOU CAN MAKE A POINTS UNFIX IF YOU SO DESPERATELY WANT IT AND TT MAKES IT MANDATORY ANYWAYS.
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Scrin, stop pming people to get the building bars.
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FUCK YOU AND THIS SHIT GAME WITH YOUR SCRIPTS!!! I HAVE ASKING YOU AND ANOTHER NOOBS HERE ABOUT HELP WITH THAT BUILDING ICONS FEATURES FOR YEARS, BUT YOU KEEP IGNORING ME AND KEEP WRITE SHIT, SO BURN YOU AND YOUR ASSLICKERS FRIENDS, THIS TIME I'M NOT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!   
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| Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game [message #405543 is a reply to message #405524] |
Mon, 05 October 2009 23:57 |
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| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 06 October 2009 05:34 |
| Dover wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 22:17 |
| ELiT3FLyR wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 13:53 |
maybe if u read what i was saying sentence by sentence rather than qutoe 5 words and reply my posts would make more sense to u.
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ITT: People who don't read other people's post accusing other people of not reading their posts.
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This.
If you haven't noticed, this topic is NOT meant to argue pointsfix. Go to one of the trillions of other topics so Spoony can prove you're an incompetent jackass.
Here, let me put that in a way you can hopefully understand.
THIS TOPIC IS NOT MEANT TO ARGUE POINTSFIX, NO MATTER HOW RIGHT YOU THINK YOU ARE (AND YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT). IT'S MEANT TO DISCUSS HOW POINTSFIX CAN FIX ANY FLAWS AND PROBLEMS ANTI-POINTSFIX PEOPLE MAY HAVE.
The fact that almost none of you lot are willing to compromise proves to me you're just as bad as the people who refuse to listen to an album from a band because it sounds a little different than their previous album, and therefore you have absolutely no right to post in these forums... much less a topic made to compromise.
Fuck, the more you jackasses post, the more I'm willing to totally be cool with it if TT makes pointsfix mandatory.
PROTIP: YOU CAN MAKE A POINTS UNFIX IF YOU SO DESPERATELY WANT IT AND TT MAKES IT MANDATORY ANYWAYS.
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LET ME QUOTE THAT SO SOME OF THE LESSER MENTALLY GIFTED PEOPLE WILL HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF READING THIS.
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