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| Re: Skins are for fags? [message #405377 is a reply to message #405375] |
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gimme puremode anyday tbh
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| Re: Skins are for fags? [message #405379 is a reply to message #405377] |
Mon, 05 October 2009 05:47 |
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JohnDoe's post made me so embarrased that I deleted all my skins and sounds and reticle and clearscope. I am running pure now and it feels nice!
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| Re: Skins are for fags? [message #405380 is a reply to message #405375] |
Mon, 05 October 2009 05:59 |
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Depends on the skins, really.
I cannot imagine how the clockwork of the universe can exist without a clockmaker. ~Voltaire
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| Re: Skins are for fags? [message #405384 is a reply to message #405375] |
Mon, 05 October 2009 07:56 |
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i use pawky's nod soldier
nod urban camoflage skin
Di3's laser sniper
reborn railgun
nod cyborg sbh
and thats it really...
so uhmm no 
Decent people = Reaver11, ErroR, all of the mods and admins, DRNG Naffets199, Amber, Dover, GEORGE ZIMMER,Zeratul, Starbuzzzz, kane,R315r4z0r,gnoepower, Danpaul88,HaTe,WNxVerty Tiberian Technologies Generalcamo,  ,  . If you want me to add you on the decent peoples list PM me.
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.AIRCRAFT KILLER YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG JACKAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU CREATE GLACIER FLAYING FUCK YOU BIG JAKAS YOUR MAPS IS BAD YOU WANT I WRUGHT THIS THE MAPS IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR
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MAPS AND IS DONT JUST ACK I TELL IT ALL REPLYER IN THIS FORUM I DESLIKE YOUâ„¢ 2003
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Zeratul PT2 | zeratul2400 wrote on Mon, 10 November 2003 09:49 |
GENOCIDE YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG JACKAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU CREATE DUSK FLAYING FUCK YOU BIG JAKAS YOUR MAPS IS BAD YOU WANT I WRUGHT THIS THE MAPS IS BAD HEY IS ONE YEAR YOUR PROMESS A WARPATH MOD WERKING BUT IT NO WORK AND DONT JUST GENOCIDE I TELL IT ALL REPLYER IN THIS FORUM I DESLIKE YOU.
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lol| nikki6ixx wrote on Wed, 09 June 2010 05:11 |
With only 14 people living in Canada, the retarded one was bound to show up around here sooner or later.
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| Good-One-Driver wrote on Sun, 04 July 2025 01:37 |
everything is possible just need to know how to code
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Jumping from the empire state building onto concrete head first and surviving is possible if I know how to code? Wow, teach me please.
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| CarrierII wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 22:35 |
I am in a bad mood with you, you wasted my time.
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| Good-One-Driver wrote on Wed, 30 September 2009 09:03 |
lol fuckin russians damn communists
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That was the worst comment to this thread ever.
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| Nightma12 wrote on Wed, 08 June 2011 14:27 |
your mum is a stupid language
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| reborn wrote on Sun, 20 November 2011 11:54 |
Liquedv2, yew need to branch out a little on your thinking. I'm sure you'll twig it soon enough, but you're barking up the wrong tree.
The map is budding with new ideas and great game-play, AitcraftKiller just has to get to the root of the problem, it seems to have him pretty stumped right now.
Leaf him alone, he's doing a good job. I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say this map isn't fir you.
Anyway, this thread is really starting to lumber along, all this over some sap's map? I thought the game was dead, but this thread at least is poplar. It makes me pine for the days of yonder.
At the end of the day, life's a Beech.. Who wood of thought it?
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| Azazel wrote on Sun, 25 March 2012 10:20 |
6 Players don't know how to use a tank.
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But 1 knows how to use triggerbot!
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| Re: Skins are for fags? [message #405385 is a reply to message #405375] |
Mon, 05 October 2009 07:57 |
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I love the fact that I can change the appearance of Ren, it is like a coloring book... The problem is, some people have not learned to stay inside the lines and color their ren like 5 year olds. Luckly their are are also the ones that make a old game feel kinda new again.
Skins
Edit: That whole thing where people turn their bloom way up... that shit just hurts my eyes.
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| Re: Skins are for fags? [message #405410 is a reply to message #405375] |
Mon, 05 October 2009 10:14 |
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Like stated, it depends on the skin.
I don't use any model skins. I do use a modified reticule and a HUD skin, though. I don't really like changing the model skins, but I would use ones that literally make the model look better by using an updated or higher-detail/quality skin of the original.
Like a serious skin replacement. Not some stupid color changing thing or some stupid clown car skin.
| JohnDoe wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 11:54 |
There's nothing wrong with crosshairs and puremode should acknowledge that IMO...
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Not true.
There are different crosshairs that make it easier to use. It removes a level of guess/positioning that allows you to aim your weapon more efficiently.
The kind of crosshair I'm talking about is the ones that are really really small. The ones that are simply dots in the center of the screen.
It's easier to control those because the actual spot the projectile is hitting is around the center dot of the crosshair. In the default one or modded ones that leave open space between that center dot and the outlining shape, you need to compensate for the open area of the crosshair with the geometry of the terrain. But if the crosshair is a simple dot, you can simply control it in a way that doesn't require you to think about the shot as much.
At least, that's the effect I got when testing a bunch of different reticule mods. The smaller the crosshair, the easier it was to use for me.
This is what I'm talking about:
Normal Styles that should be allowed:
Advantage style that makes it easier to aim:
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| Re: Skins are for fags? [message #405414 is a reply to message #405375] |
Mon, 05 October 2009 11:15 |
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!vote yes
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
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| Re: Skins are for fags? [message #405418 is a reply to message #405414] |
Mon, 05 October 2009 11:22 |
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@ R3: Till yesterday I was using that little so-called "advantage" reticle. With the default one now, my aiming is not affected at all. I think since no matter what the surrounding reticle looks like, it's always the dot that matters.
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| Re: Skins are for fags? [message #405436 is a reply to message #405410] |
Mon, 05 October 2009 13:31 |
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| R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 18:14 |
Like stated, it depends on the skin.
I don't use any model skins. I do use a modified reticule and a HUD skin, though. I don't really like changing the model skins, but I would use ones that literally make the model look better by using an updated or higher-detail/quality skin of the original.
Like a serious skin replacement. Not some stupid color changing thing or some stupid clown car skin.
| JohnDoe wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 11:54 |
There's nothing wrong with crosshairs and puremode should acknowledge that IMO...
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Not true.
There are different crosshairs that make it easier to use. It removes a level of guess/positioning that allows you to aim your weapon more efficiently.
The kind of crosshair I'm talking about is the ones that are really really small. The ones that are simply dots in the center of the screen.
It's easier to control those because the actual spot the projectile is hitting is around the center dot of the crosshair. In the default one or modded ones that leave open space between that center dot and the outlining shape, you need to compensate for the open area of the crosshair with the geometry of the terrain. But if the crosshair is a simple dot, you can simply control it in a way that doesn't require you to think about the shot as much.
At least, that's the effect I got when testing a bunch of different reticule mods. The smaller the crosshair, the easier it was to use for me.
This is what I'm talking about:
Normal Styles that should be allowed:
Advantage style that makes it easier to aim:
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I'm going to respond to this nonsense one time in a civil fashion.
Here are a few reasons why the "normal style" can be more useful than the "advantage style":
1. Short range fighting. This is common knowledge...pro players who use custom crosshairs for different weapons will always use a large crosshair for shotgun-type weapons and a small one for sniper weapons. I like the Renegade-style crosshair because it combines both.
2. Leading with shells/rockets/grenades. While variants of cross-shaped crosshairs (wow..) are best for this type of aiming, the larger circle crosshair is still more useful than the smaller one. The outer rim of the crosshair will be closer to the opponent, making it easier to guess whether he's going to run into the center of the crosshair.
3. Sniping opponents behind objects at long distance unscoped. Let's say you're fighting someone at a long distance and he's hiding behind a barrier and you don't want to scope because it'll make you an easier target or because you're busy hugging a wall. Now the small crosshair will actually obstruct his model from your view, while with the larger crosshair, only the dot is covering his character. It's even more evident when he's being partially covered by a vehicle, thus eliminating your ability to guess your shots as the crosshair changes to red. This is not a major issue , but it can be the crucial factor deciding a close battle.
Now the "advantage style" is probably better at medium distances, where most Renegade combat takes place, and when sniping scoped...it's still a tradeoff, tho and I prefer the "normal style" because it's essentially the most balanced type of crosshair.
Clearly, it boils down to personal preference just like mouse sensitivity or mouse grip.
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| Re: Skins are for fags? [message #405448 is a reply to message #405375] |
Mon, 05 October 2009 14:12 |
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They're for American queers, yes.
I'm gonna hijack a plane / I won't do it for glory or fame / and when they catch me they'll see I'm insane / put your Ronald Reagan to shame
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| Re: Skins are for fags? [message #405474 is a reply to message #405410] |
Mon, 05 October 2009 15:34 |
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| R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 12:14 |
Like stated, it depends on the skin.
I don't use any model skins. I do use a modified reticule and a HUD skin, though. I don't really like changing the model skins, but I would use ones that literally make the model look better by using an updated or higher-detail/quality skin of the original.
Like a serious skin replacement. Not some stupid color changing thing or some stupid clown car skin.
| JohnDoe wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 11:54 |
There's nothing wrong with crosshairs and puremode should acknowledge that IMO...
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Not true.
There are different crosshairs that make it easier to use. It removes a level of guess/positioning that allows you to aim your weapon more efficiently.
The kind of crosshair I'm talking about is the ones that are really really small. The ones that are simply dots in the center of the screen.
It's easier to control those because the actual spot the projectile is hitting is around the center dot of the crosshair. In the default one or modded ones that leave open space between that center dot and the outlining shape, you need to compensate for the open area of the crosshair with the geometry of the terrain. But if the crosshair is a simple dot, you can simply control it in a way that doesn't require you to think about the shot as much.
At least, that's the effect I got when testing a bunch of different reticule mods. The smaller the crosshair, the easier it was to use for me.
This is what I'm talking about:
Normal Styles that should be allowed:
Advantage style that makes it easier to aim:
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I don't even look at the dot, I just shoot randomly and sometimes I get a headshot.
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| Re: Skins are for fags? [message #405502 is a reply to message #405379] |
Mon, 05 October 2009 17:07 |
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| pawkyfox wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 07:47 |
JohnDoe's post made me so embarrased that I deleted all my skins and sounds and reticle and clearscope. I am running pure now and it feels nice!
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Really? I run puremode, but you made some awesome skins. Why waste your work like that? =/
Renegade:
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The only game where everyone competes to be an e-janitor.
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| Re: Skins are for fags? [message #405517 is a reply to message #405436] |
Mon, 05 October 2009 18:38 |
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| JohnDoe wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 16:31 |
1. Short range fighting. This is common knowledge...pro players who use custom crosshairs for different weapons will always use a large crosshair for shotgun-type weapons and a small one for sniper weapons. I like the Renegade-style crosshair because it combines both.
2. Leading with shells/rockets/grenades. While variants of cross-shaped crosshairs (wow..) are best for this type of aiming, the larger circle crosshair is still more useful than the smaller one. The outer rim of the crosshair will be closer to the opponent, making it easier to guess whether he's going to run into the center of the crosshair.
3. Sniping opponents behind objects at long distance unscoped. Let's say you're fighting someone at a long distance and he's hiding behind a barrier and you don't want to scope because it'll make you an easier target or because you're busy hugging a wall. Now the small crosshair will actually obstruct his model from your view, while with the larger crosshair, only the dot is covering his character. It's even more evident when he's being partially covered by a vehicle, thus eliminating your ability to guess your shots as the crosshair changes to red. This is not a major issue , but it can be the crucial factor deciding a close battle.
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How can you tell me it's nonsense? You are not me. You don't know how I think nor do you know how I perceive surroundings or react to stimuli. How can you tell me that what I know I feel for a fact is wrong?
I can only agree with point #1. And that is a little iffy because of the way shotguns, or I should say weapons in general, work in Renegade. They aren't as style intensive in Renegade as other games make them to be (such as maybe Halo or Call of Duty)
However, I found it much easier to lead shots without the obstruction of the outer reticule obscuring the target (I watch where the bullet lands and adjust my trajectory, not were the dot goes).
This goes for no scoping far targets. Regardless of the size of the outer reticule, the dot is always the same. For me, it's never been about actual aiming at long distance unless the enemy doesn't see me. When in shot-for-shot combat at long distance, I just hover the dot on the level of the upper portion of the targets body and fire when it turns red. A smaller reticule makes it easier for me to do that. Especially since the "glow" of the bright color of the outer reticule doesn't aid in the obstruction of my view if the target decides to run far to the left or right.
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| Spoony wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 08:45 |
gimme puremode anyday tbh
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Says the guy who leads a team that recreates the mod on an entirely new game engine. 
People skin for a variety of reasons. One of the main ones is because they don't like the look or feel of the old version. So they make their own 'better' version.
Renegade X is essentially "skinning" taken to the Xtreme! (lolpun)
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. It all boils down to personal preference and nobody's getting an unfair advantage by using a cross instead of a circle. Other skins either give you an unfair advantage or lower the game's nostalgic appeal...so you're either a faggot or the type of guy that wears white socks when wearing a suit because he doesn't know any better...Philistine phaggot.
